View Full Version : Homeopathy:A cure or just plain water?


wheehah
04-13-03, 01:23 AM
There was this guy and he said he'd give $1 million dollars to anyone who could prove homeopathy could work. :D

NenarTronian
04-13-03, 02:41 PM
Oh really, how interesting. :bugeye: Care to send us a link concerning this? Also, the debate is still out on how well mind-over-matter techniques work for pain etc, as in placebo and things.

EvilPoet
04-13-03, 10:23 PM
Was it this guy?

James Randi (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2512105.stm)

one_raven
04-14-03, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by EvilPoet
Was it this guy?

James Randi (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2512105.stm)

Shhhhh...
I think weehah wanted to keep the guy a secret so that (s)he can ask on forums to get an answer and claim the money.

You are ruining the plan! :D

EvilPoet
04-14-03, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by one_raven
You are ruining the plan! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/spezial/jasons_smilie/evilgrin.gif

"The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
-English Proverb

ElectricFetus
04-14-03, 12:48 PM
Does anyone here know what homeopathy is???

It like trying to cure something with something else that bad or would produce the same symptoms. Like using fire to fight fire.

EvilPoet
04-14-03, 04:23 PM
Yup, sure do. http://killerbutterfly.com/pics/grin3.gif

"Homeopathy, from the Greek words homoios (similar) and pathos (suffering), is a controversial system of alternative medicine involving the use of remedies without chemically active ingredients. The theory of homeopathy was developed by the Saxon physician Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843) and first published in 1796."

[More... (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy)]


See also:

Homeopathy (http://skepdic.com/homeo.html)

Alternative Health Dictionary (http://www.canoe.ca/AltmedDictionary/home.html)

"Keep an open mind, but don't keep it too
open or people will throw a lot of rubbish
in." -Unknown

SwedishFish
04-14-03, 04:49 PM
i thought homeopathy was something entirely different. boy was i wrong. i don't know why you would want to bother proving that.

what does everyone think of the use of herbs to treat symptoms and conditions?

ElectricFetus
04-14-03, 04:58 PM
Huuuum I thought Homeopathy was my definition :bugeye: well I found a major English dictionary that confirms it:

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Main Entry: ho·me·op·a·thy
Pronunciation: "hO-mE-'ä-p&-thE, "hä-
Function: noun
Etymology: German Homöopathie, from homöo- homeo- + -pathie -pathy
Date: 1826
: a system of medical practice that treats a disease especially by the administration of minute doses of a remedy that would in healthy persons produce symptoms similar to those of the disease
- ho·meo·path /'hO-mE-&-"path/ noun

I remember a report about the use of phage to fight off bacterial infections and they referred to that as Homeopathy.

wheehah
04-15-03, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by one_raven
Shhhhh...
I think weehah wanted to keep the guy a secret so that (s)he can ask on forums to get an answer and claim the money.

You are ruining the plan! :D
Don't worry, I'm not trying to keep it a secret or anything. Yes, it was James Randi. As for the placebo effect, they tried it on animals and it seemed to work. Personally I think it's impossible that chemicals that have been diluted thousands of times could have any effect on the human body.

wheehah
04-15-03, 03:26 AM
I think this (http://http://www.randi.org/research/index.html) is it.

ElectricFetus
04-15-03, 10:57 AM
wheehah,

link does not seem to work.

Nasor
04-15-03, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by EvilPoet
"Homeopathy, from the Greek words homoios (similar) and pathos (suffering), is a controversial system of alternative medicine involving the use of remedies without chemically active ingredients. [/B]Isn't 'not chemically active' another way of saying 'doesn't do anything'?

EvilPoet
04-15-03, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Nasor
Isn't 'not chemically active' another way of saying 'doesn't do anything'?
In my opinion - that depends entirely on who you ask. ;)

Fresh clue to homeopath mystery (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1643364.stm)

wheehah
04-17-03, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by WellCookedFetus
wheehah,

link does not seem to work.

No, I made a mistake in the url. Here (http://www.randi.org/research/index.html) is the link.

wheehah
04-17-03, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by EvilPoet
Fresh clue to homeopath mystery (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1643364.stm) [/B]
Interesting article. On the show I saw a team of scientists try and prove it was correct but they didn't. They failed miserably.

ElectricFetus
04-17-03, 06:35 AM
So that’s what homeopathy is... hehehahahaHAHAHAHA stupid fu[ks! obviously they don't understand what molecular polarity is... heck they don't understand a lot of things. I guess homeopathy made since when they tried to explain the effects of placebo.

Dr Lou Natic
04-17-03, 06:40 AM
As far as I know homeopathy is putting something in water and then diluting it down until that "thing" could no longer possibly be in the water.
Yes it is a load of crap.

wheehah
04-18-03, 02:08 AM
Yes thats right. They dilute it until it's the equivalent to one drop to all the water in the Atlantic

Vortexx
04-19-03, 09:08 AM
If homeopathy works, than one drop of poison could kill a million people, drinking the highly diluted solution....?

Drinking plain water may no longer be be safe, you never know what industrial waste may have caused the water to have become quantum entangled with it in the past :p

river-wind
04-22-03, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by WellCookedFetus

: a system of medical practice that treats a disease especially by the administration of minute doses of a remedy that would in healthy persons produce symptoms similar to those of the disease
- ho·meo·path /'hO-mE-&-"path/ noun



homeo=same
pathy=disease IIRC


the current popular definition of the word 'homeopathy' is the use of stabalising agents to calm a sickness, therefore fixing it. This is not the same as the actual definition of the word "homeopathy", as listed above.

Homeopathic healing methods currently include herbal suppliments, which are most certainly not diluted. Many of the over the counter "safe" herbal suppliments contain dangerous amounts of the herb *chemically active* ingredients.

ElectricFetus
04-23-03, 12:06 AM
Ya ok http://www.guru3d.com/forum/images/smilies/circling.gif

river-wind
04-28-03, 02:43 PM
I felt I should also mention that anyone who outright tosses homeopathy out the door as 'crazy' should go get a refund on all the vaccines they've gotten over the years :P



Diluting the poison to cure it. don't forget that this stuff started before there was a division between poison, sickness, "heat" and other things that killed you for no outward reason. The word 'poison' is flexable in this definition.