Hizballah's 2nd victory

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  1. otheadp Banned Banned

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    The 1st image = the dead Hizballah / "Palestinian" terrorists' coffins received from Israel as part of the latest swap. The 2nd image = the coffins of the 2 Israeli soldiers abducted by Hizballah - whose abduction started the 2006 war with Israel.

    There were also 5 live Lebanese terrorists Israel has provided. Hizballah has provided none, but did provide some more info about an Israeli soldier missing for 22 years.

    So, if you were a Lebanese, would the contrast of these 2 images make you feel happy? Would you want more victories like this one?

    Hizballah didn't give up any live Israeli hostages or bodies because they failed to capture or kill any. And those rows of coffins in the 1st picture would still be alive had Nasrallah not started the war in the first place. I wonder how much of his "victory" parades and speeches do the Lebanese buy?
     
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  3. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know about whether or not it was a victory, but I think I see more dead bodies in the top picture than in the bottom.
     
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  5. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    thats probably because we respect the enemy dead. silly us, all those efforts to be humanitarian and we are just hated more. we should adopt the hezbullah model, kill more innocent and manipulate the media. it works :shrug:
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Respect the enemy dead. Is that why they paid Captain R 80,000 shekels for shooting a schoolgirl dead?

    So how many Palestinian/Lebanese men, women and children is Israel still holding captive without due process? 4,000? 10,000?
     
  8. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, from SAM who believes it is right and just to buy children as suicide bombers to kill other children.

    The Slave markets are still alive and well in the Lands of Islam, sell you children for $25,000 and send then to their deaths, and murder other children for fun and profit.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Heh, its the American troops who are occupying other countries [we don't do body counts] and American taxpayers paying Israel to keep their occupation continued.

    Here are Americans defending their country:

    Such bravery!

    I wonder if there would be such media silence if 47 American women and children had been bombed by Afghanis.
     
  10. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, from SAM who believes it is right and just to buy children as suicide bombers to kill other children.

    The Slave markets are still alive and well in the Lands of Islam, sell you children for $25,000 and send then to their deaths, and murder other children for fun and profit.
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Suicide bombers are killing themselves under an oppressive regime. What are those parents with their children doing in Palestine?

    What are Americans doing in other people's countries killing families?

    Remove that log from your eye before you point out a mote in someone elses. You are the one who went to someone elses country and killed women and children. What did the people you killed do to you or yours?
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Sell their children into being suicide bombers, for cold cash.

    What are Islamic suicide bombers, Moslem Terrorist, and al Quada doing in other countries killing other peoples families?

    What was OBL doing issuing a Fatwa against America.


    Take your own advice first, when you take that Giant Redwood out of your eye, maybe you will have room to preach.
     
  13. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Just see how easy it is for someone sitting in a comfortable house, with the time on their hands, to preach about killing (yourself or someone else).
    War, the advocation and condemnation of it too, only looks good to those who don't have to fight in one, or live in one.
     
  14. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    isnt hezbullah keeping another israeli soldier gone missing? do they not have information on ron arad as well?

    its ironic that samir kuntar is alive and well with a degree paid for by the israelis when hezbullah doesnt reveal a thing about the soldiers it kidnapped.


    by the way, what are the names of those lebanese prisoners?
     
  15. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    i thought israel is a pile of shit

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    no no, dont reply.
     
  16. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    you know i keep on hearing on the thousands lebanese prisoners all the time, yet i have not seen a single proof. i mean, this what hezbullah demanded:

    Lebanese prisoners in Israel have been a source of contention between Lebanon and Israel and were an issue in the 2006 Lebanon War. The number of such detainees is disputed. According to the Lebanese organization Hezbollah, there are currently two Lebanese citizens in Israeli prisons, but Israel denies holding them.[1] Hezbollah had demanded the release of Lebanese prisoners as as condition for releasing Israeli reservists Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, captured in the raid which sparked the 2006 Lebanon War.[2] On July 16, 2008, the Israel Prison Service released five Lebanese prisoners in exchange for the remains of Goldwasser and Regev.


    so where are those 10,000 prisoners? do we even have room for them? why keep so many?
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    One thing they don't buy is the ridiculous assertion that Nasrallah started the war. It's perfectly obvious to the Lebanese who is the aggressor, and who was just invaded and stomped on yet again.

    It might not look like much of a victory from the outside, but simply not being occupied - forcing the Israelis to go home - might be seen as an improvement over the past.
     
  18. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    so the UN report was a lie? hezbullah didnt attacked israel with rockets and invaded the border?
     
  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The Israelis had been preparing that invasion for weeks, and making border incursions on land (the aerial ones were routine) for as long as that border has been re-established.

    They didn't even enable the Lebanese to pick up the minefields from their previous invasions, saving time and trouble on this one.
     
  20. otheadp Banned Banned

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    I'm not interested in arguing over who started the war as it is plainly obvious. But re: who really won, let's just say Nasrallah's ability to bullshit has affected even me! Up until I saw the clear difference between the 2 pictures above I too thought that Hizballah won both in 2006 and this week.

    You could look at it from this angle or that, but the "traditional"

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    rolleyes: ) way of comparing damage + dead/injured hits you with the undisputed facts, straight on the head.

    It's a completely inversed universe back in Lebanon. They welcome a childkiller who bashed a little girl's brains in with his hands as a national hero, and they have victory parades to celebrate the collosal 6-billion's worth of damage that Nasrallah's war has inflicted + 1200 dead + 4400 wounded. And Nasrallah threatenes more abductions to inflict another "victory" like this on Lebanon.

    Hey, be my f'n guest. This time the IDF response will be much worse, and an even greater "victory" will be inflicted upon Lebanon, so that they may have even bigger victory "celebrations" and throw adoration at the subhuman that brought these fortunes on the Lebanese.

    See, at least you (iceaura) can see that Lebanon/Hizballah are worse off, and are just trying to spin, but in the Arab world and in Lebanon these "achievements" are actually considered great victories.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah its very clear that Aita as-Shaab is in Lebanon, not Israel

    This from the people who have been milking the Holocaust for all its worth while Holocaust survivors live in poverty. Heh. "Never again"*, indeed.


    *restrictions apply, must be Jewish to qualify.
     
  22. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Never Again, and that includes the, The Moslem Sates, never being able to inflict a Nazi Style Holocaust on Jews in Israel.

    Jewish exodus from Arab lands:

    The Jewish exodus from Arab lands refers to the 20th century expulsion or mass departure of Jews, primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from Arab and Islamic countries. The migration started in the late 19th century, but accelerated after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. According to official Arab statistics, 856,000 Jews left their homes in Arab countries from 1948 until the early 1970s. Some 600,000 resettled in Israel. Their descendants, and those of Iranian and Turkish Jews, now number 3.06 million of Israel's 5.4 to 5.8 million Jewish citizens. [1] WOJAC estimates that Jewish property in Arab countries would be valued today at more than $300 billion[2][3] and Jewish-owned real-estate left behind in Arab lands at 100,000 square kilometers (four times the size of the State of Israel). [1][3]


    On May 16, 1948, The New York Times recorded a series of measures taken by the Arab League to marginalize and persecute the Jewish residents of Arab League member states. It reported on the "text of a law drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League, which was intended to govern the legal status of Jewish residents of Arab League countries. It provides that, beginning on an unspecified date, all Jews except citizens of non-Arab states would be considered 'members of the Jewish minority state of Palestine.' Their bank accounts would be frozen and used to finance resistance to 'Zionist ambitions in Palestine.' Jews believed to be active Zionists would be interned and their assets confiscated."

    IN 1951, the Iraqi government passed legislation that made affiliation with Zionism a felony and ordered "the expulsion of Jews who refused to sign a statement of anti-Zionism." This pushed tens of thousands of Jews to leave Iraq, while much of their property was confiscated by the state.

    In 1967, many Egyptian Jews were detained and tortured, and Jewish homes confiscated. In Libya that year, the government "urged the Jews to leave the country temporarily," permitting each to take one suitcase and the equivalent of $50.

    In 1970, the Libyan government issued new laws confiscating all the assets of Libya's Jews, issuing in their stead 15-year bonds. But when the bonds matured, no compensation was paid. Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi justified this on the grounds that "the alignment of the Jews with Israel, the Arab nations' enemy, has forfeited their right to compensation."
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    heh, comparing the holocaust to the "exodus" after the nakba.

    You should talk, look at native Americans, the return of the St Louis, the 30 something countries bombed since WWII, the nuking of Japan, Vietnam and currently, the occupation of foreign countries by US troops. Americans have the least moral ground on earth to comment on anyone else.
     

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