Hitler was a Green?

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  1. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    "We recognise that separating humanity from nature, from the whole of life, leads to humankind's own destruction and to the death of nations. Only through a re-integration of humanity into the whole of nature can our people be made stronger. This striving toward connectedness with the totality of life, with nature itself, a nature into which we are born, this is the deepest meaning and the true essence of National Socialist thought."

    That was Ernst Lehmann, a leading biologist under the Nazi regime, in 1934, and he wasn't alone. Hitler, for one, was an avid vegetarian and green, addicted to homoepathic cures. His regime sponsored the creation of organic farming, and SS leader Heinrich Himmler even grew herbs on his own organic farm with which to treat his beloved troops.

    The Nazis drew heavily on a romantic, anti-science, nature worshipping, communal and anti-capitalist movement that tied German identity to German forests. In fact, Professor Raymond Dominick notes in his book, The Environmental Movement in Germany, two-thirds of the members of Germany's main nature clubs had joined the Nazi Party by 1939, compared with just 10 per cent of all men.

    The Nazis also absorbed the German Youth Movement, the Wandervogel, which talked of our mystical relationship with the earth. Peter Staudenmaier, co-author of Ecofascism: Lessons from the German Experience, says it was for the Wandervogel that the philosopher Ludwig Klages wrote his influential essay Man and Earth in 1913.

    In it, Klages warned of the growing extinction of species, the destruction of forests, the genocide of aboriginal peoples, the disruption of the ecosystem and the killing of whales. People were losing their relationship with nature, he warned.

    This essay by this notorious anti-Semite was republished in 1980 to mark the birth of the German Greens -- the party that inspired the creation of our own Greens party.

    Its message is much as Hitler's own in Mein Kampf: "When people attempt to rebel against the iron logic of nature, they come into conflict with the very same principles to which they owe their existence as human beings. Their actions against nature must lead to their own downfall."

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  3. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    You only have to look at man made global warming to see Hitlers above quote in action , eventually global warming will destroy us .
     
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  5. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    read up on nazi science, if you want to know more. the nazi party also supported invading oil rich nations so that they could block off oil supplies and encourage alternative energy.
     
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  7. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Wow, now that is interesting. Who would think that the Nazis would be so... 'Green'.
     
  8. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Just because somebody is utterly wrong in one area of their policy doesn't mean they can't be right in others.

    From wikipedia's 'Guilt by association' fallacy page: (emphasis mine)


    Guilt by association, also known as the "bad company fallacy" or the "company that you keep fallacy," is the logical fallacy of claiming that something must be false because of the people or organizations who support it. Some examples are:

    * Some charities have been fraudulant — charities are frauds
    * Anti-war activists has made statements critical of Israel. Neo-nazis have made similar statements. Therefore, opposing the war is equivalent to supporting Nazism.
    * The Nazis supported eugenics. Therefore eugenics must be evil.
    * Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian. Vegetarianism must be evil.
     
  9. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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  10. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Zephyr:
    I never claimed otherwise. I'm just surprised that of all things, the Nazis were Greenies. I thought that they would have been fond on industrialization, and cutting down forests to replace them with factories.
     
  11. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    Well hitler certainly was not a pinky or blacky, he hated gays, although nobody looked more gay than him especially with that pathetic gay moustache, and his cravings for a blond boy master race, the guy was more gay than george michael, and he was not a blacky, he hated the black race, probably felt intimidated by there usually athletic builds, especially when he had such a ladyboy build.

    So that leaves green, he was a alien without a doubt but what planet he came from we will never know, there was no autopsy done on him.
     
  12. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    vincent:
    Well, I guess I can understand your hatred towards him, then!

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  13. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    Thenazi regime didn't sponser the creation of organic farming, original poster. dont be silly. organic farming goes wayyyybak, obviously.

    to understand the philosophy behind nazi grren movement you need to checkout about Rudolf Steiner. here's a place to start www.w-reich.de/hdoeng11.htm

    you have to understand that nazi philosophy believed in the purity of the Nordic blood as being of Aryan stock. in their myth there exists a hierarchy with their shit at the top of course, which connects them, and teir ancestors with 'the FATHER-land', and when ever 'father' is empahasized, yeah, you gotit, we got PATRIARCHY':
    "By feeling and emotion we are, says teiner, separated from the cosmic unity, while by thinking we are universal beings permeating everything and being one with the universe. Anthroposophy wants to prove the superiorty of spirit over matter....Athroposophy always operates from above to below, from idea to matter, from doctrine to reality."
     
  14. Happeh Registered Senior Member

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    I thought Hitler was Saddam Hussein?

    Or is Hitler Ahmadinejad?

    Or is it George Bush that is Hitler? That is what Hugo Chavez says.


    Today, anyone's enemy is Hitler. There are Hitlers everywhere.
     
  15. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    Well, he might have been in favour of building a few more German factories, but his Ost-policy would certainly have been in favour of cutting down Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian factories and replacing them with forests.
     
  16. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    I very mucxh dont agree with that articles conclusions. AND there's nothing MORe dangerous than aracist who denies they are racist, andit has to be known that Steiner's worldview reeks of racism. he also said different tings to different groups. see here : Rudolf Steiner and the Jews www.waldorfcritics.org/articles/NJP_RudolfSteinerAndJews.html "...blond hair actualy bestows intelligence'

    ALWAYS look at themyth. suer, people, and heir followers and apologists, may defend them as being 'nice as pie' etc., but as said CHECK OUT their MYTH. for it is the stories we tell ourselves that has the influence on worldviws.
    emember a huge influence on Steiner was Blavatsky, andit was her teachings about 'root races' that influenced th nazi myth!
     
  17. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    indeed....my girlfriend attended a steinerschool......she is from ukraine....we all know how germans hate slavs, historically.
     
  18. duendy Registered Senior Member

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