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View Full Version : Hispanics (not blacks) Will Rebuild New Orleans
I thought blacks were the ones who built America?
Shit, blacks can't even rebuild there own neigborhoods.
"There's a severe shortage of workers, and the migrant workers have come to fill that void -- those workers used to be mostly African-American and some white, working class."
With some reports saying that about 30,000 Hispanic workers flocked to the region in the first three months after the hurricanes, observers say it didn't take long for fears to begin surfacing about how such a migration will alter the region's ethnic landscape.
"The concern was that a rumored or feared influx of workers ... could ultimately translate into a heavy, if not majority, Hispanic New Orleans," said Elliot B. Stonecipher, a political and demographic analyst in Shreveport, La.
The notion is not supported by the social and racial dynamics of Louisiana, where there is a pre-existing, deep-seated hatred "between African-Americans and Hispanics," Mr. Stonecipher said.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060222-122114-8605r.htm
spidergoat 02-23-06, 01:50 PM That article answered your question if you weren't so blinded by racism.
"A lot of people that come out here are looking for Mexicans because they think they can pay them less," he said. "A lot of times, that's true."
Compounding the situation was a move by President Bush in September to suspend a 1931 law that required federal contractors to pay at least the average regional wage to workers hired under such circumstances.
Nanonetics 02-23-06, 02:06 PM The cities were not dangerous gargantuan ghettos two hundred years ago like in the dark ages. Progress has stopped and in fact reversed under western liberalism and its thoughtless lapdogs for over a century. Regression into a medieval quality of life with medieval taboo rules for adult children to live by have come into effect for millions of people and the number is growing toward a billion. Over the last several generations of deluded leadership, the result of crowd revolt against a formerly capable aristocracy, life under western rulers will continue to degenerate toward something more resembling the Taliban that such leadership claims to revile. Now we vote in random members willy-nilly from the incompetent and delusional public crowd or ultrawealthy liberal businessmen that the TV tells us are good guys, instead of relying on a continuously experienced ruling elite which had a legacy of centuries of hard experience to draw from.
That article answered your question if you weren't so blinded by racism.
[I]"A lot of people that come out here are looking for Mexicans because they think they can pay them less," he said. "A lot of times, that's true."
Ya, your quote there spidey is from a black man trying to explain why he does not want to work.
Blacks will do the least amount work, but the most amount of complaining during the rebuilding of New Orleans.
Nanonetics 02-23-06, 02:22 PM That does not mean that African Americans are not vengefully being overlooked as a workforce by these liberal Republican businesses in favor of employing criminals who are not Americans. African Americans have an very long historical American legacy in New Orleans and it is hateful that the Republican businessman variety of liberal wishes to take revenge on these people like this when it is not needed to get the job accomplished.
spidergoat 02-23-06, 02:25 PM I don't want to work for crappy pay, either. I can't go back to mexico and support my family for a year on the kind of money that wouldn't last a month here.
Besides: Mr. Mack said he came seeking work because business is slow in the North during the winter.
Illegal immigrants are the racist republican's wet dream, an underclass of people that will work for peanuts, never complain, never form a union, never sue for unsafe working conditions, and never vote.
That does not mean that African Americans are not vengefully being overlooked as a workforce by these liberal Republican businesses in favor of employing criminals who are not Americans. African Americans have an very long historical American legacy in New Orleans and it is hateful that the Republican businessman variety of liberal wishes to take revenge on these people like this when it is not needed to get the job accomplished.Bla Bla Bla, are blacks going to rebuild there city or not?
Don't tell me about a bunch of bullshit. This is today, and blacks in America today are lazyer then ever.
The fact that they are not going to lead the way in the rebuilding of New Orleans is just more proof.
spidergoat 02-23-06, 02:28 PM No, it's a deliberate policy to destroy an historically democratic stronghold in N.O.
No, it's a deliberate policy to destroy an historically democratic stronghold in N.O.Blacks don't want to work.
The new report, titled “Trends in Black Male Joblessness and Year-Round Idleness: An Employment Crisis Ignored” and prepared for the Alternative Schools Network in Chicago, Ill., Northeastern University’s Center for Labor Market Studies and economist Andrew Sum analyzed both long-term and recent employment developments among the nation’s black males, finding that, since the era of Civil Rights some five decades back, African-American men have suffered a serious decline in labor force attachment and participation.
Employment rates among black male teens and young adults ages 16 to 19 have dropped considerably over the past 50 years, the study found. In 1954, a slight majority -- 52 percent -- of black male teens worked, a rate slightly in excess of their white peers. By 2003, however, only one of five black male teens was employed in a typical month – just 20 percent -- only half the employment rate of white male teens. Among 20 to 24 year old black males, employment rates also have declined considerably from their peak values of 77 to 83 percent in the mid to late 1960s to dramatic 50-year lows more recently. During 2003, for example, just 56 percent of such young black men ages 20 to 24 was employed.
Among older black men, the same dramatic declines were noted over time, according to the report. While the employment rates of black men rise from their late teens through their mid 30s, high levels of joblessness prevail among these men into their late 20s (30 percent of 25 to 29 year old black men were jobless in 2003, for example), then rise sharply as they reach their mid-50s. One of the most disturbing findings was the high share of black males ages 20 to 64 that were jobless year-round. In 2002, one of every four black men in this age group – a full quarter of the entire
population within this wide age range -- was idle all year-round, up from 20 percent in the peak labor market year of 2002.
The report’s key findings also include:
Among the nation’s black teens, fewer than 20 percent, age 16 to 19, were employed during 2003, an employment rate just half that of white teens;
Among 20 to 24 year old black men, employment rates averaged just 57 percent during the past three years, compared with an average of 80 percent employment in the late 1960s. The E/P (employment to population) ratio of young black men in 2003 lagged well behind the white male employment rate by nearly 20 percentage points;
In 2002, a full quarter of African-American men ages 20 to 64 were not employed at any point during the year. The year-round joblessness rate for black adult males in 2002 was twice as high as that of white and Hispanic males;
The year-round idleness rate for black men varies by age, educational attainment, and geographic location. Idleness rates in 2002 ranged from a low of 18 percent for those ages 35 to 44 to a high of nearly 42 percent for those 55 to 64. Forty-four percent of black men with no high school diploma were idle year-round versus 26 percent of high school graduates and only 13 percent of those with a bachelor’s or higher degree.
http://www.nupr.neu.edu/7-04/unemployment.shtml
spidergoat 02-23-06, 02:43 PM I don't disagree with those figures, unemployment is a national problem, but there is nothing there that suggests that black people don't want to work.
Nanonetics 02-23-06, 02:50 PM Bla Bla Bla, are blacks going to rebuild there city or not?
The vast majority of African places around the globe have been continually asking for outside help and unable to stabilize for quite a long while. The days of tribes, warriors-hunters, child-bearers and strong kings seemed quite well enough but most Africans live under an outsider's model of society for the most part now. Bibles, crowd pity and liberal democracy have provided no solution whatsoever. The remedy of freebies and handouts seems to exacerbate the troubles if we look at many different places during many decades with the overall results of such activity. So, to answer, I would say not very likely as an independent group. Unfortunately, independently it would remain yet another city in ruins. This isn't something cute or funny to joke about in my view. I reject the Republican variety of liberal and the favorite whipping boy attitude they have toward Africans. These people are hurting and down judging by what they say and do. It has not mostly been their fault. It has been outside meddlers like slave traders, delusional religious fanatics and colonials who pave railroads through their tribal lands that have done most of the damage. The desperation, resentment and lashing out are right and just if you take this view.
James R 02-23-06, 07:44 PM Lumping ALL black people into the same basket with stupid statements like "(ALL) blacks don't want to work" is racist, and patently untrue.
spuriousmonkey 02-23-06, 08:31 PM I thought blacks were the ones who built America?
Shit, blacks can't even rebuild there own neigborhoods.
"There's a severe shortage of workers, and the migrant workers have come to fill that void -- those workers used to be mostly African-American and some white, working class."
With some reports saying that about 30,000 Hispanic workers flocked to the region in the first three months after the hurricanes, observers say it didn't take long for fears to begin surfacing about how such a migration will alter the region's ethnic landscape.
"The concern was that a rumored or feared influx of workers ... could ultimately translate into a heavy, if not majority, Hispanic New Orleans," said Elliot B. Stonecipher, a political and demographic analyst in Shreveport, La.
The notion is not supported by the social and racial dynamics of Louisiana, where there is a pre-existing, deep-seated hatred "between African-Americans and Hispanics," Mr. Stonecipher said.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060222-122114-8605r.htm
Does that mean that the white man is still slave driving blacks and hispanics? How could your racist ass have missed this????
Lumping ALL black people into the same basket with stupid statements like "(ALL) blacks don't want to work" is racist, and patently untrue.
Look James,
African Americans have been crying about everything and anything here in America from the first day here. They have been crying about how New Orleans is their city, and things need to be rebuilt.
Today there is a great opportunity for blacks in America to show themselves and others, what kind of great people they say they are.
But what happens?
Same shit, lazy, looting, good for nothing, worthless group of being.
And you guys still wonder why they are treated as such?
Nanonetics 02-24-06, 10:40 AM Since America is full of adult children who value pity, the correct remedy will never be applied, perpetual conflict and misery will continue.
spidergoat 02-24-06, 12:41 PM African Americans have been crying about everything and anything here in America from the first day here.
Because it's been a hell hole for them from the first day. They got no respect, no rights, your family could be broken apart and sold for cash, you could be beaten legally, you had to work for no money, and when the civil war came and they became free the southern whites kicked them out of government positions and stole their human rights once again. The KKK would beat, torture and often kill any black man that stood up for his rights. White people taught them that no matter how hard they work in society, they would not let them succeed. Real civil rights only started to come about in the 1960's, less than 50 years ago. But all this is common knowledge, so why do you chose ignorance over reality?
Real civil rights only started to come about in the 1960's, less than 40 years ago. 2006 - 1960 = 46
Because it's been a hell hole for them from the first day. They got no respect, no rights, your family could be broken apart and sold for cash, you could be beaten legally, you had to work for no money, and when the civil war came and they became free the southern whites kicked them out of government positions and stole their human rights once again. The KKK would beat, torture and often kill any black man that stood up for his rights. White people taught them that no matter how hard they work in society, they would not let them succeed. Real civil rights only started to come about in the 1960's, less than 40 years ago. But all this is common knowledge, so why do you chose ignorance over reality?Are you trying to explain why blacks are not going to work to rebuild New Orleans?
So I guess blacks are not going to help in rebuilding New Orleans.
Who would of guessed that?
spidergoat 02-24-06, 01:15 PM I was more trying to explain how your view of blacks is completely deficient of any understanding of history.
Your view of the Katrina/ New Orleans situation is also distorted by racism and lacking any basis in reality.
James R 02-25-06, 01:23 AM So I guess blacks are not going to help in rebuilding New Orleans.
My guess is that there will be significant numbers of black people helping to rebuild New Orleans. Wait and see.
android 02-26-06, 09:44 PM Illegal immigrants are the racist republican's wet dream, an underclass of people that will work for peanuts, never complain, never form a union, never sue for unsafe working conditions, and never vote.
I agree.
I don't think the Republicans are even smart enough to care about race as an issue. They care about money.
Sadly, so do the Democrats, but they also play for popularity.
an underclass of people that will work for peanuts, never complain, never form a union, never sue for unsafe working conditions, and never vote.Sounds like a group of people with low intelligence.
Wait and see.Why wait?
See this:
http://www.wimp.com/orleansbattle/
Most of the reports about the crimes in New Orleans were not true, and greatly exagerrated.
More racist propaganda, J.B.?
Most of the reports about the crimes in New Orleans were not true, and greatly exagerrated.
More racist propaganda, J.B.?
Thats what you say.
But, I have video:
http://www.bofunk.com/video/2138/cops_looting_new_orleans.html
Hercules Rockefeller 02-27-06, 07:42 PM Lumping ALL black people into the same basket with stupid statements like "(ALL) blacks don't want to work" is racist, and patently untrue.
So why haven't you banned J.B.? :rolleyes: I believe he/she/it has already been banned for racism at least once or twice, so this would constitute a repeated offense. One of many continual repeated offenses, in fact. For the record, James R, how many racial slurs does it take to get permanently banned?
So why haven't you banned J.B.? :rolleyes: I believe he/she/it has already been banned for racism at least once or twice, so this would constitute a repeated offense. One of many continual repeated offenses, in fact. For the record, James R, how many racial slurs does it take to get permanently banned?Look at this, this guy is crying.
Am I winning or what?
spidergoat 02-27-06, 07:58 PM If the game is stupidity, then you are one of the all time masters.
Look at this, this guy is crying.
Am I winning or what?
Quite the opposite. We're crying because you're such a disgrace to compared with the rest of us.
We're crying There is NO crying in science.
How did you like this video?
http://www.bofunk.com/video/2138/cops_looting_new_orleans.html
Hurricane Angel 02-28-06, 01:18 PM I thought blacks were the ones who built America?
Shit, blacks can't even rebuild there own neigborhoods.
"There's a severe shortage of workers, and the migrant workers have come to fill that void -- those workers used to be mostly African-American and some white, working class."
With some reports saying that about 30,000 Hispanic workers flocked to the region in the first three months after the hurricanes, observers say it didn't take long for fears to begin surfacing about how such a migration will alter the region's ethnic landscape.
"The concern was that a rumored or feared influx of workers ... could ultimately translate into a heavy, if not majority, Hispanic New Orleans," said Elliot B. Stonecipher, a political and demographic analyst in Shreveport, La.
The notion is not supported by the social and racial dynamics of Louisiana, where there is a pre-existing, deep-seated hatred "between African-Americans and Hispanics," Mr. Stonecipher said.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060222-122114-8605r.htm
Why should they rebuild a city the republicans allowed to be destroyed and then didn't help out when the flood actually came?
Bush and his cronies can get down and do some work for once.
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