This is the list of benefits of green tea which I’ve found during my research.

1. It is used to treat multiple sclerosis.
2. It is used for treatment and prevention of cancer.
3. It is used to stop Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases.
4. It is used to raise the metabolism and increase fat oxidation.
5. It reduces the risk of heart diseases and heart attacks by reducing the risk of trombosis.
6. It reduces the risk of esophageal cancer.
7. Drinking green tea inhibits the growth of certain cancer cells, reduces the level of cholesterol in blood, improves the ratio of good cholesterol to bad cholesterol.
8. It is used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and cardiovascular diseases
9. It is used to treat impaired immune function. .
10. Some researches show that, drinking green tea regularly may help prevent tooth decay by killing the bacteria which causes the dental plaque.

and yet you have nothing cited to support these claims.

it relieves stress.

This is the list of benefits of green tea which I’ve found during my research.

1. It is used to treat multiple sclerosis. ....

LOL, I call bullshit!

it relieves stress.

and dehydration, no different than beer.

the difference is that you are not allowed to drink at work. well at least not here. would be different if it was a german company probably, but it isn't.

6. It reduces the risk of esophageal cancer.

Apparently if you drink hot liquids it increases the risk (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/28/science/sci-cancer28) of esophageal cancer. So your 6th point should be qualified that the green tea must not be "hot" - hot is defined in the article linked above.

I love green tea but I didn't know that it's that healthy. So I should drink it even more often. I don't drink it hot, I can't stand hot liquids so I let it cool down a bit before I drink.

I drink arizona green tea that has ginseng and honey in it on a pretty regular basis. Its quite tasty.

I used to drink it quite a bit, but now I can't take the caffeine.

and dehydration, no different than beer.

Alcohol doesn't relieve dehydration, quite the opposite.

I quit caffeine three days ago and I got a headache ever since. This stuff is really addictive.

Apparently if you drink hot liquids it increases the risk (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/28/science/sci-cancer28) of esophageal cancer. ...One of the great benefits of socialized medicine is the ability to detect small effects that are adverse to health. Hot tea was associated with esophageal cancer more than 30 years ago. Here is where and how:

All English public servants had to spend about 1/2 a day completing a very detailed questioner about their habits. Their health records, from birth to death were (or would be) available and centralized. Unlike the US system where typically your current local doctor may keep them for a few years and in your life you may have a few old ones scatted in 5 different states, but no one can find and assemble them.

One of the interesting things that turned up when that English data was processed was that the Brits who took milk or cream in their tea had essentially standard rate of esophageal cancer but those that did not had significantly elevated rate of esophageal cancer. The cause of this association was not clear. One theory was that the tannic acid in the tea spent its force on the milk/ cream proteins. The other was that the milk/ cream cooled the tea.

Your link does not tell if they take their tea straight or with milk/cream. AFAIK, no one knows which factor causes the association with esophageal cancer. As other hot beverages are drunk, my money is on the tannic acid, not the hot liquid.

The research / early detection / benefits of government medical services / centralized national medical records / from birth to death of almost everyone have enormous value.

For example, if AIDs has started in England, instead of San Francisco, it would have been recognized years earlier, possibly cured or contained before it spread over the entire globe. Do you have any idea how much money that would have saved? Not only does the US have a lower life expectancy than 69 other nations but it pays much more for the poor health care all but the wealthy receive (and their kids are exposed to many who rarely see a doctor)

Alcohol doesn't relieve dehydration, quite the opposite.

Beer probably does in the short run until the alcohol starts to take it's toll.


I quit caffeine three days ago and I got a headache ever since. This stuff is really addictive.

You better start up again. Gets rid of headaches. :o

You better start up again. Gets rid of headaches. :o
It lasted for four days ;)

Recently I have switched from coffee to green tea for my breakfast "wake up" drink. The dry weight of the leaves is 30% the complex compounds reported to have health benefits. Today, for the first time, at lunch time, I ate some of the soggy tea leaves that had been used for my breakfast cup. Does anyone know reason why this should not be done? Or of any culture where that is common practice?

Or of any culture where that is common practice?
Yes, Japan and Korea...where some brands grind their green tea leaves to an extremely fine powder.

You can see here how its traditionally mixed with a special bamboo whisk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tt7NBIVeMY

Yes, Japan and Korea...where some brands grind their green tea leaves to an extremely fine powder. ...Thanks. I watched all 9:16 minutes of it. Interestingly it includes cleaning of all tools, but no one drank the tea. I think I will put my tea leaves thru the blender and drink all (tea with tea dust in the water).

Yes, Japan and Korea...where some brands grind their green tea leaves to an extremely fine powder.

You can see here how its traditionally mixed with a special bamboo whisk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tt7NBIVeMY

The highest incidences of stomach cancer in the world occurs in Eastern Asia

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071230040235AAnLBmZ

The highest incidences of stomach cancer in the world occurs in Eastern Asia

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071230040235AAnLBmZ

That might be because of how much they smoke and drink alcohol.

That might be because of how much they smoke and drink alcohol.
Or those awful pickled radishes!

Hmm, sounds a lot like spam to me.

Japanese Green Tea tastes awesome, I love it :D

Also keep in mind
that there is no restriction that you should drink tea only
once per day; you can drink it as often as you want
Oops!

Myth #4
You can drink as much green tea as you like
SO WRONG! As with everything moderation is the kill. Too much of something good can turn out to be bad. Tea plant accumulates nutritients like aluminium, manganese and flouride from soil and ater. An overdose of green tea over a period of time can cause a build of these in your body.
http://www.seventeen.com.my/?q=node/698

remember that the more you drink green tea, the faster you would lose weight.
Oops!

Myth #5
Green Tea will help you lose weight immediately

Green Tea can help boost your metabolism but it doesn't mean the pounds will be falling off like raindrops. Plus healthy weight loss should always be constant and over a period of time rather than a drastic disappearing act.

http://www.seventeen.com.my/?q=node/698

Green tea really does seem to speed up metabolism, but recent studies show that the resulting weight loss is modest, bordering on trivial, says Craig Coleman, associate professor of pharmacy practice at the University of Connecticut in Storrs. "It sounds like it should work, but when the rubber hits the road in clinical trials, it doesn't really pan out."
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-healthy-skeptic-green-tea-20100816,0,5900577.story

And there's also this:
http://hubpages.com/hub/5-Myths-about-Green-Tea-Debunked-Learn-the-Facts

I'd think alcohol would be better, it can relieve everything you have within an hour if you drink lots of it! :D;)

when i drink green tea my eyelids shribble up. they get all puckered.

here i was trying to be healthy, drinking green tea every day, and wondering what the hell was going on with my eyelids. i thought i might be dehydrated, but i was drinking a lot of water at the same time, so i went to the doctor.

the doctor told me i wasn't dehydrated, and that my symptom was caused by migraines. but i didn't have a headache.

so i went for a second opinion and got the same answer.

i stopped drinking green tea, and my eyelids went back to normal.

???

Green tea is often touted as being a 'miracle' health drink. Nail this one down. There is no such thing as a miracle health food or drink.

Green tea is considered good because it has lots of anti-oxidant in it. That is correct, and drinking moderate amounts of green tea is almost certainly a healthy habit. But ....

It is also true that there are a heap of other materials that have lots of anti-oxidants. Pretty much all fruit, and all green, yellow, red, and blue vegetables have lots of anti-oxidants.

It is also true that different anti-oxidants appear to work a little differently to others. For example the anti-oxidants in tomatoes have been linked to a reduction in prostate cancer.

Coffee drunk in moderation has a clear link to a reduction in the incidence of type II diabetes. Black Indian tea has lots of anti-oxidants. Chocolate has lots of anti-oxidants, but is overall bad for you because of the extra calories, and because none of us can resist over-eating on chocolate!

Overall the message is clear. There are no miracle foods and drinks. The best approach is variety. Do not over-do any food or drink, but try to get a big variety of good food and drink.

Incidentally, beer is thirst quenching. Consumption of alcohol increases kidney function, and causes more water to be excreted, but if you take in enough water, that more than compensates. Strong alcoholic drinks, like wines and spirits, contain too little water, but beer has ample water for the amount of alcohol so that the water intake exceeds the extra water excreted. So beer is thirst quenching.

Green tea is often touted as being a 'miracle' health drink. Nail this one down. There is no such thing as a miracle health food or drink.

Green tea is considered good because it has lots of anti-oxidant in it. That is correct, and drinking moderate amounts of green tea is almost certainly a healthy habit. But ....

It is also true that there are a heap of other materials that have lots of anti-oxidants. ... For example the anti-oxidants in tomatoes have been linked to a reduction in prostate cancer. ...I agree with your main point, but for prostate cancer there are several diet items with better scientific proof of effectiveness than either green tea or cooked tomatoes. Their benefit if any is mild. See:

Two internet links to peer-reviewed literature mildly supporting the effectiveness of tomato follow:
http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/99/14/1074
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/15/1/92.long

An internet link weakly supporting the effectiveness of green tea follows:
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/137/1/223S
But the following convincingly refutes effectiveness of green tea used alone.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360636/?tool=pubmed

For example, if AIDs has started in England, instead of San Francisco, it would have been recognized years earlier, possibly cured or contained before it spread over the entire globe. Do you have any idea how much money that would have saved? Not only does the US have a lower life expectancy than 69 other nations but it pays much more for the poor health care all but the wealthy receive (and their kids are exposed to many who rarely see a doctor)While it may be true that AIDS would have been detected earlier in England, you have no basis for claiming that a slightly earlier detection would have resulted in a cure when decades of research since its detection has yet to yield one.

Billy

Your post backs up my message that the key to good eating and drinking is variety. No single food or drinks are 'miraculous'. Consume a good variety of good stuff - which may include green tea.

when i drink green tea my eyelids shribble up. they get all puckered.

here i was trying to be healthy, drinking green tea every day, and wondering what the hell was going on with my eyelids. i thought i might be dehydrated, but i was drinking a lot of water at the same time, so i went to the doctor.

the doctor told me i wasn't dehydrated, and that my symptom was caused by migraines. but i didn't have a headache.

so i went for a second opinion and got the same answer.

i stopped drinking green tea, and my eyelids went back to normal.

???
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M*W: Sounds like you had an allergic reaction to the green tea. I had that same reaction from something else, probably medication. My eyelids would twinge. It was something neurological... a weird feeling. You described it well.

While it may be true that AIDS would have been detected earlier in England, you have no basis for claiming that a slightly earlier detection would have resulted in a cure when decades of research since its detection has yet to yield one.I did not claim that a cure would be found by earlier detection, of new disease, AIDs or any other. I fact, I suspect exactly the opposite is true. The only reason why at least a billion dollars has already been spent looking for a cure for AIDs is that the market for such a drug is huge and still rapidly growing.

What I claimed was that If the US had a public health service like England (and most all developed countries except the USA) then the fact that AIDs was a new disease would have been detected a few years earlier and most importantly, it would be known to be a STD strongly associated with annal intercourse. I.e. the spread of AIDs would have been stopped with very few, if any, heterosexuals infected.* PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN A CURE.

You may find it shocking, but some drugs are very expensive and provide little if any benefit. For example, Denderon's advanced cancer "drug" (some patient's blood is taken, processed to amplify his immune system's effectiveness slightly against Castration Resistant Prostate Cancer, CRPC, and then a few weeks later returned to his body - not sure that is a "drug").

On average, instead of being dead in about 3 or 4 years from Metastasized CRPC, the patient can expect to live nearly three months longer than if he does not take the "drug." It cost $92,000 per year. Assume that with out it he dies in 3.5 years but with it he dies in 3 years and 9 months at a cost to his estate of 3.75x 92,000 = $345,000, just for the drug (check ups, doctor's fees for injecting it, etc. not included).

I do not think the tax payers should be asked to pay that sum to give him 3months longer life. Do you? If he is wealthy and wants to reduce his estate (perhaps has no grandchildren), fine - that is his choice. I could afford to do so, but would rather give each of my four grand children at least $150,000 more (That capital would grow during the three years I lived without the "drug.")

One must be realistic with the public's money so there is slight truth to Sara Palin's politically-motivated exaggerated "death panels." To be able to afford better care for the many (about three years longer life expectancy) at about half the cost of the US's "for profit" medical system, the European health care systems do not pay for very expensive, little proven benefit, drugs.

For example:
"... Britain's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence has said again that it will not recommend Roche's Avastin for colorectal cancer because the benefits are not greater than the costs. It is the second time that NICE has issued such a draft guidance regarding Avastin for colorectal cancer use. ... " {Avastin is successful against many other cancers, but I believe the FDA has also refused to broaden the label for colorectal cancer. It is a great profit maker - 100s of millions in sales annually, I think.}

Read more about NICE not funding this application (source of the quote above) at:
http://pharmalive.com/news/index.cfm?articleID=724988&categoryid=9&newsletter=1

SUMMARY I am all for intelligent, rational, use of the taxpayer's money spent on medical services. Are you? IMHO it is a crime that the US system has so much cost in giving profits to private companies that the average American dies nearly three years earlier than the average European (or Canadian or Japaneses).

The drug companies spend billions annually to mislead the US public. Dishonest politicians, especially demagogs like Sara Palin, are causing Americans to have shorter lives, on average with greater medical costs than need be TO KEEP THEIR PROFITS ROLLING IN. Little wonder the drug companies are one of the biggest spending lobbies in Washington.
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* Be honest: The drug companies do not want prevention of disease. If AIDs had been contained to a less than 3000 victims that would have cost them at least 100 million dollars in profits EVERY YEAR.

From their POV AIDs is the perfect disease - you can live more than 20 years if you take their drugs. Too hell with the poor in Africa who cannot afford their drugs. Little wonder Brazil's public health service ignores their patents and makes the drug as cheaply as it can. That public health service believes in health by prevention too. In the world's largest population of Catholics, it gives out Condoms for free! That is very cost effective. In the US's for profit system, this would never be done. There is too much profit in treating people with AIDs and other STDs.

Hi martineargent,
Some more benefits of green tea are:
11. It helps us in losing weight,
12. It reduces tooth decay,
13. It Prevents aging,
14. It promotes beautiful skin, hair, nails,
15. It lowers blood sugar.Your numbers (11 to 15) seem to imply you are quoting from some source. What is it? I doubt some (if not all) of your claims and would like to check why they are made.

I have read a lot of journal literature on green tea, especially wrt its effects, if any, on cancer. Green tea is quite complex mix of agents that may have some beneficial effects, but if it does they are very mild, and normally not even detectable in large controlled studies (even with 1 liter / day taken). BTW, green tea is second only to water in volume humans drink so any significant effects would show up in health differences between Asians and westerners.

For slight support in surpression of prostate cancer see:
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/137/1/223S Note nutrition journals do have bias toward "natural foods" giving benefits, when they can not be confirmed in well controlled studies.

But the following convincingly refutes benefit of green tea used alone. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360636/?tool=pubmed

"... The study's findings of low bioavailability and/or bioaccumulation of green tea polyphenols in prostate tissue and statistically insignificant changes in systemic and tissue biomarkers from 3-6 weeks of administration suggests that prostate cancer preventive activity of green tea polyphenols, if occurring, may be through indirect means and/or that the activity may need to be evaluated with longer intervention durations, repeated dosing, or in patients at earlier stages of the disease. ..."

From: http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/early/2011/10/31/1940-6207.CAPR-11-0306.abstract

I.e. in addition to the large NIH study of Japanese listed at end of my last post, this is more recent evidence Green Tea's benefits (at least for prostate cancer) are just "folk lore."

The principle difference between green tea and black tea is that it is less oxidized. Is that the cause of its alleged health benefits?

White tea, which I've never seen or drunk, is even less oxidized than green tea. Is it therefore theoretically even better for you?

The principle difference between green tea and black tea is that it is less oxidized. Is that the cause of its alleged health benefits?

White tea, which I've never seen or drunk, is even less oxidized than green tea. Is it therefore theoretically even better for you?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/040526070934.htm


"Past studies have shown that green tea stimulates the immune system to fight disease," says Milton Schiffenbauer, Ph.D., a microbiologist and professor in the Department of Biology at Pace University's Dyson College of Arts & Sciences and primary author of the research. "Our research shows White Tea Extract can actually destroy in vitro the organisms that cause disease.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090430194803.htm

ScienceDaily (Apr. 30, 2009) — Possible anti-obesity effects of white tea have been demonstrated in a series of experiments on human fat cells (adipocytes). Researchers have now shown that an extract of the herbal brew effectively inhibits the generation of new adipocytes and stimulates fat mobilization from mature fat cells.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tea

A study at Kingston University in 2009 showed that white tea has high anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, anti-collagenase, and anti-elastase properties which could potentially reduce the risks of developing rheumatoid arthritis, some cancers, heart disease and slow the enzymatic break-down of elastin and collagen, traits which accompany aging.[11][12]

Most supermarkets carry white tea in the tea and coffee aisle now in the United States.

We should take green tea in breakfast daily then we will be active and smart so we never lose our activeness and we should be ready for best so enjoy life a cup of tea.I understand. However, the purpose of life is not merely to prolong itself. Life must also be pleasant: we should enjoy our time on this planet. I don't like the flavor of green tea so I drink black tea. Lapsang souchong, to be specific, a black tea smoke-dried over burning tar, with a powerful smoky flavor that is not to everyone's liking. (Lapsang souchong is the Cantonese name familiar in America and the U.K. It's li sheng xiao jong in Mandarin, although the written name is not standardized in Chinese. The literal meaning is in dispute and may not be real words.)

Remember: you can eat a perfect, healthy diet with no sweets, junk food, trans-fats or artificial ingredients; you can exercise vigorously for a couple of hours every day; you can give up alcohol, caffeine and all other drugs; you can relocate to a region with clean air and water; you can arise before dawn and go to bed early; you can forswear TV, videogames and all other banal recreations... but bear in mind that although this may not actually make your life any longer, it will sure feel like it. ;)

Time for a new joke Frag, that one is getting sorta worn at the seams. ;)

... Remember: you can eat a perfect, healthy diet with no sweets, junk food, trans-fats or artificial ingredients; you can exercise vigorously for a couple of hours every day; you can give up alcohol, caffeine and all other drugs; you can relocate to a region with clean air and water; you can arise before dawn and go to bed early; you can forswear TV, videogames and all other banal recreations... but bear in mind that although this may not actually make your life any longer, it will sure feel like it. ;)When starting to read this, I was afraid I would find "sex" in your list of "give ups", but I see you are not crazy.

Glad to see white tea is almost as good as green tea... I love white tea with raspberry... but I can't stand the taste of green or black!

Glad to see white tea is almost as good as green tea...

Huh? white tea seems to be better for you...
Far more anti-inflammatory, more anti-oxidative, more antibacterial. Which is why I pay more money to drink it-I am a total cheap a$$, white tea is a bit more costly...
But tastier too, I agree.

Nobody ever reads my links!!!:frust:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2850784&postcount=40

I sit here, alone, typing away, in the dark, googling my fingers to the bone for you children, and this is the thanks I get....:bawl:

When starting to read this, I was afraid I would find "sex" in your list of "give ups", but I see you are not crazy.

Not even Fraggle is that straight edge.

There's evidence green tea may lower risk of prostate cancer. I like green tea (the real stuff, not those Lipton baggies). I brew a couple pots of green tea in my office each day. Look for long straight leaves as this is a sign of top quality. The more broken bits means it's more than likely bottom of the barrow mixed up tea leaves that were left over from various better teas. These are why Lipton et.al. is put them into little tea baggies. Good tea easily sits in a net.

Huh? white tea seems to be better for you...
Far more anti-inflammatory, more anti-oxidative, more antibacterial. Which is why I pay more money to drink it-I am a total cheap a$$, white tea is a bit more costly...
But tastier too, I agree.

Nobody ever reads my links!!!:frust:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2850784&postcount=40

I sit here, alone, typing away, in the dark, googling my fingers to the bone for you children, and this is the thanks I get....:bawl:

Ah, lol, sorry, I admit I misread what you had posted - I was reading this in the few minutes before I headed for work and thus didn't have time to read the link itself XD

There's evidence green tea may lower risk of prostate cancer.

Yes, and exercise has also been proven to lower that risk - as well as the risk for many other cancers, type 2 diabetes and several dementias. Something to think about. ;)

There's evidence green tea may lower risk of prostate cancer. ...Link to your source please.

Yes but much stronger evidence that it does not:

{part of post 36}... For slight support in surpression of prostate cancer see:
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/137/1/223S
Note nutrition journals do have bias toward "natural foods" giving benefits, when they can not be confirmed in well controlled studies.

But the following convincingly refutes benefit of green tea used alone. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360636/?tool=pubmedHere is the abstract from that large prospective study:

".. In a prospective study of 19,561 Japanese men, green-tea intake was not associated with a lower risk of prostate cancer (110 cases), the multivariate hazard ratio for men drinking ≥5 cups compared with <1 cup per day being 0.85 (95% confidence interval 0.50–1.43, trend P=0.81). "

I have prostate cancer despite a "radical prostatectomy" nearly three years ago. I have concocted a "threapeutic diet" supplement of seven items after more than 100 hours of searching at Pub Med and other scientific journal sites for foods with two or more peer-reviewed studies showing some benefit of each item, separately used.

It is not a cure, but does seem to provide some control when I am in "off drug" cycles. I added green tea to my threapeutic diet for about one year, (It replaced my morning coffee) hoping for a "synergistic effect" but did not notice any. So when I read in common literature that coffee reduced the risk of cancer, I went back to coffee. I have not made any effort to learn if there is any scientific basis for coffee helping. I now take my diet supplement with each meal and it seems that the earlier once/ day may not have been often enough. Some items are known to be rapidly metabolized.

With this more frequent and larger amount of diet supplement, I now can use the testosterone suppressing drug only 20% of the time and still keep my PSA below 0.08ng/dL but I am not yet ready to fully describe the diet as I do not wish to give false hopes. I have mentioned in another thread that hot red peppers are part of the diet - the ones I use are common in Brazil, called "Malagueta," and about 12 times stronger in the active (burning) agent than common hot red peppers found in the USA. One adapts to their active agent, so now I take ~20 times more (18 grams / per day) than I could stand initially due to their effect upon the bowels. I actually slightly like the taste of my diet now.

However, it does have a strange mild effect, which I think I understand. The active agent in the peppers causes my body to think it is over heating (a mild systemic burning? not consciously sensed) so in reaction, I become chilled and must put on a sweater but that only lasts an hour or so.

“…We conducted a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled intervention study to investigate the effect of the main green tea catechin, epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), taken in a green tea extract, Polyphenon E (PPE). Postmenopausal women (n=103) were randomized into three arms: placebo, 400 mg EGCG as PPE, or 800 mg EGCG as PPE as capsules per day for 2 months. … Based on urinary tea catechin concentrations, compliance was excellent. Supplementation with PPE did not produce consistent patterns of changes in estradiol (E2), estrone (E1), or testosterone (T) levels.

Low density lipoprotein (LDL)-cholesterol decreased significantly in both PPE groups but was unchanged in the placebo group;… Glucose and insulin levels decreased nonsignificantly in the PPE groups but increased in the placebo group; … In summary, green tea (400 and 800 mg EGCG as PPE; ~5-10 cups) supplementation for 2 months had suggestive beneficial effects on LDL cholesterol concentrations and glucose-related markers. …”

Billy T condensed abstract above from: Effect of 2-month controlled green tea intervention on lipoprotein cholesterol, glucose, and hormonal levels in healthy postmenopausal womenCancer Prev Res canprevres.0407.2011; Published OnlineFirst January 13, 2012;

“…We conducted a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled intervention study to investigate the effect of the main green tea catechin, epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), taken in a green tea extract, Polyphenon E (PPE). Postmenopausal women (n=103) were randomized into three arms: placebo, 400 mg EGCG as PPE, or 800 mg EGCG as PPE as capsules per day for 2 months. … Based on urinary tea catechin concentrations, compliance was excellent. Supplementation with PPE did not produce consistent patterns of changes in estradiol (E2), estrone (E1), or testosterone (T) levels.

Low density lipoprotein (LDL)-cholesterol decreased significantly in both PPE groups but was unchanged in the placebo group;… Glucose and insulin levels decreased nonsignificantly in the PPE groups but increased in the placebo group; … In summary, green tea (400 and 800 mg EGCG as PPE; ~5-10 cups) supplementation for 2 months had suggestive beneficial effects on LDL cholesterol concentrations and glucose-related markers. …”

Billy T condensed abstract above from: Effect of 2-month controlled green tea intervention on lipoprotein cholesterol, glucose, and hormonal levels in healthy postmenopausal womenCancer Prev Res canprevres.0407.2011; Published OnlineFirst January 13, 2012;

Read full abstract here: http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/early/recent
It is the third paper, about one page down.

It tastes good too :) I brew a pot of the good stuff twice a day when I'm at work. Try to get green tea that's long and unbroken (say 5mm in length, deep green color). If you're getting broken little bits then that's bottom of the barrel tea leaves (usually used in lipton tea bags or something like that). If it's kept sealed it'll last forever.

Hi martineargent,
Some more benefits of green tea are:
11. It helps us in losing weight,
12. It reduces tooth decay,
13. It Prevents aging,
14. It promotes beautiful skin, hair, nails,
15. It lowers blood sugar.



I wonder if green tea really reduces tooth decay, or might it be more accurate to say it causes little or no decay when compared to acidic and sugary drinks?

I wonder if green tea really reduces tooth decay, or might it be more accurate to say it causes little or no decay when compared to acidic and sugary drinks?

Biofilms, of which dental plaque is one sort, does not like green tea. Green tea messes with the ability to the bacteria to form self-protective colonies, which is what a biofilm is.

what can't green tea not do?

can it save the world too?

Green tea has caffeine in it. I know because I have become sensitive to caffeine, and green tea is something I can only take in small quantities.

The debate smolders on?

I see a lot of posters with very few posts whose comments seem to amount to cut-and-paste compliments of green tea, taken from health news soundbites. Maybe the tea industry has found this thread attractive?

As for caffeine, I have heard that caffeine may be the main component in coffee that accounts for some of its anti-diabetic or diabetes preventive effects. Although I've heard that is only for pre-diabetes, and that caffeine can screw up blood sugar once you have the condition. Or something like that.
I'm too lazy to fetch anything to prove or disprove.

I think the consensus, if there is one, would be that a few cups of green tea with other healthy dietary habits is not harmful and probably aids you.

Green tea polyphenol absorption can be increased by up to 300% when taken with certain amounts of ascorbic acid.
Again, too lazy to fetch.

I'm just gonna stretch out..
:yawn: <------ Laziness

... besides inhibiting the growth of cancer cells, it kills cancer cells without harming healthy tissue. ... there is no evidence for that claim and about cancer control or reduction. Several clinical studies showing the opposite - no effect exist. Are you, and most of the other new comers with less than 10 post being paid by some Green Tea company?

Green tea, like many other agents in food does have some mild beneficial effects and probably does little if any harm. It is second only to water as the world´s most common drink.

Here is post with link showing what it can benefit without your wild "snake oil cures everything" claims.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2890293&postcount=55

Lipton's™ Green Tea saved my life, I had cancer once and then when I drank Lipton's™ Green Tea, I didn't.

Yeah Billy, I too was wondering why all of the new handles have landed on this thread...wrote it off to serendipity. :shrug:

I have a mug of green tea every morning after my run and shower. It is warm, pleasant to the palate and rehydrating. :)

Lipton's™ Green Tea saved my life, I had cancer once and then when I drank Lipton's™ Green Tea, I didn't.In addition to the link I gave in post 55 to a quite recent study showing green tea was of no use in prevent or curing cancer, here is link to an older, very large, and complete and careful controlled study showing the same thing for prostate cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360636/?tool=pubmed

Here is its brief abstract in full:
“In a prospective study of 19 561 Japanese men, green-tea intake was NOT associated with a lower risk of prostate cancer (110 cases), the multivariate hazard ratio for men drinking ≥5 cups compared with <1 cup per day being 0.85 (95% confidence interval 0.50–1.43, trend P=0.81).”

Here is the title of the paper reporting the study:
“No association between green tea and prostate cancer risk in Japanese men: the Ohsaki Cohort Study”
Here is part of the introduction paragraph:
“…Green-tea consumption per capita in Japan is the highest in the world (International Tea Committee, 2004). One reason for the low incidence of prostate cancer in Japan may be the high consumption of green tea. We therefore examined the association between green-tea consumption and prostate cancer incidence among men in the Ohsaki Cohort Study conducted in rural Japan. …”

This low incidence of prostate cancer in Japan, is like the lower death by heart disease in France. Ignorant people and then the press, jump to the conclusion that it is due to green tea in Japan and red wine in France. Red wine does contain resveratrol, which in VITRO can be shown to have many desirable effects, including upon cancer cells. But it is destroyed in the human gut so essentially none gets into the blood (You can get it there by direct absorption under the tongue from resveratrol saturated wafers.):

“…oral bioavailability of resveratrol is low because it is rapidly metabolized in intestines and liver into conjugated forms: glucuronate and sulfonate.[102] Only trace amounts (below 5 ng/mL) of unchanged resveratrol could be detected in the blood after 25 mg oral dose.[102] Even when a very large dose (2.5 and 5 g) was given as an uncoated pill, the concentration of resveratrol in blood failed to reach the level claimed to be necessary for the systemic cancer prevention.[40] A formulation of resveratrol in a chewing gum form is now in production, and this would be expected to achieve much higher blood levels than oral formulations. …”
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol

I.e. even if you took 25mg by mouth only 5 ng/mL ends up in the blood and the liver rapidly destroys that tiny fraction.
It is sad commentary on general human progress from the days when we were burning witches to see how strongly still scientifically unfounded beliefs are accepted by the masses just because of coincidental associations. (A crazy girl in Salem, low rate of prostate cancer in Japan, or lower heart attack rates in France)

I have prostate cancer an operation removing prostate and associated tissue did not cure. Thus, when I learned it failed as a cure, I spent more than 100 hours at Pub Med looking for diet items that might help (had at least two pier-reviewed studies showing effectives) I found four and take them before every meal with some indications that they are helping. I keep PSA < o.1 ng/dL with low duty cycle use of Testosterone, T, lowering drug but after three years of use must report they are not a cure. Initially red grape juice and green tea were part of the "therapeutic diet" but later I learned more about them and dropped their use. At least five other items with popular press claims have been tested (in my carefully controlled one patient study) but then dropped. I pay nothing in Brazil to measure PSA and T so do both five times in each on drug/ off drug cycle. First measured pair is about 9 hours after last drug pill is take, 2nd is about 7 weeks later, then three more at decreasing intervals to watch PSA approach 0.1 and as it does start next cycle´s on drug phase.

I plot the ratio, PSA/T and so long as it remains essentially constant conclude that the cancer cells in my body still need T to be active. Normally with more continuous use of drugs to surpress T, the drugs become ineffective and PSA climbs even if T is held near castration levels. My hope, so far achieved, is that will low duty cycle use of drugs the drug will not lose control. I.e. not become an untreatable CRPC case. When (and if) I have gone four years keeping PSA <0.1 and ratio PSA/T constant, I will publish my "therapeutic diet" details.

The secret of green tea lies in the fact it is rich in catechin polyphenols, particularly epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG). EGCG is a powerful anti-oxidant: besides inhibiting the growth of cancer cells, it kills cancer cells without harming healthy tissue. It has also been effective in lowering LDL cholesterol levels, and inhibiting the abnormal formation of blood clots. The latter takes on added importance when you consider that thrombosis (the formation of abnormal blood clots) is the leading cause of heart attacks and stroke.Please give link to a pier-reviewed, journal article supporting this claim (Someone´s opinion, even if published in some Natural Foods magazine etc., is still just someone´s opinion.)

I am not disputing that there are anti-oxidents, etc in green tea, nor the fact that they can be shown to be effective in vitro tests against isolated cancer cells. I want to see some in vivo evidence, where these agents not only survive the normally occurring processes that break down of complex molecules in animal´s digestive system´s but also get into the blood stream and produce the results claimed.

I have still low levels PSA three+ years after my prostate (& nearby associated tissue) was remove. I.e. I am in the 10 to 25% the a radical prostateomy did not cure. I spent at least 100 hours searching (mainly at Pub Med) for diet items that might help. (Had at least two scientific studies showing their effectiveness) - I found 6, including green tea and red wine, but later dropped both from my diet when more detailed investigation showed they were just in vitro studies and other studies in vivo showed no significant effects (because their agents are destroyed in the gut).

The agent (Resveratrol) in red wine (or also in cheaper red grape juice), is now or soon to be available in special chewing gum as studies have shown it can get into the blood if held in the mouth, especially under the tongue.

I am certainly NOT opposed to diet as aids to cancer control. In fact believe my diet items, taken before each meal, are why I can keep PSA < 0.1ng/dL for several months with no use of drugs lowering Testosterone, T, to near castration levels. Fortunately for me, I live in Brazil and have no cost to frequently measure both T & PSA.

I go off drugs more than three months, first measuring T & PSA in early AM about 10 hours after last drug pill was taken, then again after about 7 weeks later with three more measurements of both at decreasingly shorter intervals (to know when my PSA is approaching 0.1 and I must go back on drug for about one month.)

In essence I am doing a very carefully control study of low duty cycle use of standard drugs. If I can go four years with little drug use and keep PSA below 0.1 (and also the ratio of PSA/T essentially constant while "off drug") then I will publish my diet - don´t want to give false hopes. Normally durgs lose control in about 3 years and one is then A CRPC case with very little that can be done for you (or nothing not costing ~$100,000 per year).

Drinking green tea makes me want to go to the bathroom. You know what I mean...

Drinking green tea makes me want to go to the bathroom. You know what I mean...More than same volume of beer?

Too much time has passed for me to edit post 60, but I want to correct my comments there about red grape juice being a cheaper source of Resveratrol. Resveratrol is found in red wine (or also in red grape juice, which may be a cheaper source, but perhaps not on a per dose basis as it comes from the grape skin, soaking slowing out. So the concentration in red wine, IF fermented with the skins may be much higher. If the wine was made from the juice only, as is often done, then concentration would be no better than the grape juice has.)

The recent study reported that
3 – 5 cups of green tea per day can help you burn more than 70 calories per day,
which amounts to 7 pounds per year...

Despite prior bans and the facts given in post 59 and the literature links given in posts 55 & 58, the "green tea nonsense" spammers are back with their first few posts.

I am not against useful diet supplements, just quacks with a commercial interest and scientifically ignorant. I noted in post 59 that I use some scientifically proven, effective supplements to help control my prostate cancer. I can not update that post any more, so just note I have used the mix of diet items found by search of the literature to control my initially very aggressive cancer (Low level PSA after failed operation, was doubling every 30 days!) to keep my PSA below 0.1ng/mL for more than 3.5 years now but as is common, the std drug I use may be starting to lose effectiveness.

Purely subjective comment I'm making but perhaps one of the benefits of green tea (and other hot beverages) is that it encourages the intake of water. Some regions of the country have water that is less palatable than others and we have become a nation that prefers flavored beverages to 'Adam's Ale.'

Regardless of the many health claims regarding green tea, it is no more expensive than other teas in our store and comes in a variety of combinations with other herbs and flowers as well as in decaffeinated form. Unsweetened green tea contains approx. 2 calories per cup while unsweetened black tea contains about 5 calories, according to one of the references I use.

Tea, green, black or white, would seem a better choice for any who are on a weight loss or weight maintenance regime and so it can be beneficial as a replacement for other high calorie beverages, in my opinion. :)

In contrast with large population studies, here is support for green tea in pre-prostate cancer cases, an inhibitor of development of a potential precursor for prostate cancer; but it used a concentrated extract without telling how may cups provide that dose. Also have if you already have prostate it may be of no use - no data.



".. Some of the more popular polyphenols have been the catechins in green tea, which have been shown to inhibit cancer cell growth in animal and epidemiologic studies. Epigallocatechin (EGCG), which is a principal ingredient in green tea leaves, interferes with biochemical reactions associated with cellular proliferation and enhances apoptosis. EGCG is a potent inhibitor of the carcinogenic heterocyclic amines (PhIP), which are produced from overcooked or charred meat.[25, 26, 27, 28, 29]

Commercially prepared green-tea extracts contain 60% polyphenols, the source of bioflavonoids, which are potent antioxidants. A study by Betuzzi et al suggested that such extracts may discourage the development of prostate cancer. The investigators administered either a placebo or 600mg/day of green-tea extract to 60 men with high-grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia (HGPIN), a potential precursor for prostate cancer.[30] All of the men underwent repeat biopsy after 1 year, and only 1 of the 30 men in the treated group was found to have a cancer, compared with 9 of the 30 in the placebo-treated group. .."

Billy, have you see information like in this article.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121026124837.htm

Billy, have you see information like in this article. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121026124837.htmNo, but the most common reason (other than not working) for new drug to fail is liver damage. Some may have gotten FDA approval even with this problem when not much else helps a serious disease. I took one for prostate cancer not cured by having it removed, with instructions to monitor liver function. Breaking down and getting rid of stuff that does not belong in you is perhaps the liver´s main job.

Hi everyone
There are many beneift of green tea drink green tea two time in day and get glowing skin and lose weight day by day.Some benefit of green tea is under is
1. It is used to treat multiple sclerosis.
2. It is used for treatment and prevention of cancer.
3. It is used to stop Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases.
4. It is used to raise the metabolism and increase fat oxidation.
5. It reduces the risk of heart diseases and heart attacks by reducing the risk of trombosis.
6. It reduces the risk of esophageal cancer.
7. Drinking green tea inhibits the growth of certain cancer cells, reduces the level of cholesterol in blood, improves the ratio of good cholesterol to bad cholesterol.
8. It is used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and cardiovascular diseases
9. It is used to treat impaired immune function. .
{post 59 in part} Please give link to a pier-reviewed, journal article supporting this claim (Someone´s opinion, even if published in some Natural Foods magazine etc., is still just someone´s opinion.)...Also why stop at only 9 unfounded, unsupported claims?
Don´t you know green tea prevents jet lag, produces pheromones that make you more attractive to the opposite sex, stimulates the brain so it takes less time to file better tax returns. Adding these three will give you a nice even dozen claims but if not too lazy you could bring the total claims to 100.

Natural tea helps in get rid of fat and increases metabolism, The recent study revealed that 3 – 5 glasses of teas per day can help you get rid of more than 70 calories per day, which amounts to 7 pounds per year....

Natural tea helps in get rid of fat and increases metabolism, The recent study revealed that 3 – 5 glasses of teas per day can help you get rid of more than 70 calories per day, which amounts to 7 pounds per year....This thread has history of at least half a dozen new members posting false claims for green tea. - probably made by the industry. If you can not post a working link to your "recent study" that works (becuase of limitations on new members) post one that does not (has wwww. instead of www. or some spaces in it) and I will fix it (If it is not some blog or health food rag).

One thing it is useful for is in treating attacks of gout.

One thing it is useful for is in treating attacks of gout.Have any scientific evidence that Green Tea is better than same volume of water?

Only personal testimonial. (mine and a couple of others I know)

And an ongoing clinical trial.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01363869

Only personal testimonial. (mine and a couple of others I know)

And an ongoing clinical trial. http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01363869Thanks for the link, but both no results yet and I´m not sure how lacking of commercial interest there will be as study is by:
Department of Internal Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, Chiang Mai University Chiang Mai, Thailand, 50200
and Thailand is a major exporter of green tea.

Why not search PubMed data base for more impressive study?

Why not search PubMed data base for more impressive study?

Didn't think of it. I don't usually look up medical studies.

Heres one I found on pubmed. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=green+tea+gout

Seems like most of the studies with green tea relate to cancer.

... Heres one I found on pubmed. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=green+tea+gout ... There at end of abstract you read:
"the multi-potentialities of this molecule, along with its broad bioavailability, render it very attractive as a putative curative drug for various diseases such as dermatosis, gout, atherosclerosis and cancer."

In general the way I view green tea is that it may be a weaker anti-inflammatory agent than aspirin but so weak that many dozens of scientific test have not shown any significant effects. Aspirin, in contrast has well demonstrated anti-inflammatory benefits for heart and circulatory systems and other applications; However, gout and many other diseases do respond some to placebo effects, and green tea does no known harm. It may even get you to drink the fluids you need.

To be perfectly honest, when I have a (not infrequent) gout attack, I tend to rely on percocets and colchicine.

You are probably just one more green tea spammer, perhaps paid by a tea company. If so there have been many doing the same, so I reply the same to you as to earlier spammers, below your text.
I want add here some more to made this thread more valuable. Green tea also help in followings ..
Weight Loss.
Diabetes.
Heart Disease.
Tooth Decay.
Blood Pressure.
Depression.
{post 59 in part} Please give link to a pier-reviewed, journal article supporting these claims (Someone´s opinion, even if published in some Natural Foods magazine etc., is still just someone´s opinion.)

I am not disputing that there are anti-oxidents, etc in green tea, nor the fact that they can be shown to be effective in vitro tests against isolated cancer cells. I want to see some in vivo evidence, where these agents not only survive the normally occurring processes that break down of complex molecules in animal´s digestive system but also get into the blood stream and produce the results claimed. ...

Mod Hat — Closure and redirect

A striking frequency of spam in this thread (≅21%) compelled a review of the thread in general. The typographical quirk "GreenTea" in the title also occurs in a number of similar threads around the web; the underlying thread itself is a spam foundation, a marker for future spammers to find.

Therefore, this thread is closed and redirected appropriately.

My apologies to those who have tried to foster a useful discussion of this subject; your efforts are appreciated.