Has science addressed any or all of Job’s questions or misconceptions?

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  1. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    If so, which ones?

    Job 38

    We now know that the male and female ostrich sit on their eggs faithfully. Is it true that the abandoned eggs are used for food for the chicks?
     
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  3. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    No, science does not exist for the purpose of responding to religious texts and few scientists would bother with such a thing.
     
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  7. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    No takers, eh? :shrug:

    Well, the story of Job demonstrates that God is either scientifically inept or nonexistent. Both Pleiades and Orion are being pulled apart by gravity, the sky is not like molten looking glass, and the ostrich is, in fact, nurturing.

    The story is, however, poetic. It’s addressing that age ole question, 'Why do bad things happen to good people?' It’s about human suffering, perseverance, and second chances. Job’s persistence does not, however, prove God’s existence, and we all know that he eventually dies. And 'he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more.'

    "What is my strength, that I should hope? and what is mine end, that I should prolong my life?

    So that my soul chooseth strangling, and death rather than my life.

    I loathe it; I would not live always: let me alone; for my days are vanity.

    What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?"


    Nihilistic, isn't it?

    The universe may not have provided us with a single reason to live, but it did provide life itself, and who on earth would want one single reason to live when there are many? Even if I was to say it was bad, I would still be placing a value on it. But life itself doesn't really give a shit, as to whether you value it or not. It just keeps on going, with or without you. Sure, it may all end in the distant future, but that’s a long, long time from now.

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

    Having faith in the future, nothing wrong with that, eh?

    He’s right, it can be fun, and humanists hope to make it even more fun.

    You know…one thing that Job never lost was his sense of wonder.


    Okay, I'm done with my rant on nihilism now.

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    The ‘Book of Job’ In The Modern Age
     
  8. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    The story of Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac & the story of Job started me on the road to atheism.

    My father & I had a very strong bond. When the story was read & discussed in Sunday school, I could not imagine anyone asking a father to sacrifice his son. I considered the request incredible & the willingness to obey it even more incredible. I was sure that my father would consider such a request as proof that the asker was not god.

    When I expressed my POV, the teacher argued with me about the sovereignty of god. I was unconvinced.

    Later the story of Job seemed to me to be grossly unfair to a man who was such an ardent believer. To me, the loss of his family was a terrible action. The teacher once again tried to support the actions of the OT god. Later I felt that restoring Job’s riches & giving him a new family might make up for the treatment of Job, but I felt that it certainly did not do justice to the members of his family who died.

    As an atheist, I never expected to be a Sunday school teacher. If some how I was asked to be one, I would try to justify god’s actions by describing the OT view as family being possessions of a patriarch rather than human beings with rights.
     

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