Harry Potter is a Racist

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  1. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    HARRY POTTER: A 'Half-Blood Prince' Revealed

    Today, as millions of people rifle through freshly minted copies of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince to discover the identity of this mysterious new character, I can't help but imagine this prince as biracial rather than "half-magic."

    "Half-breed" — akin to mongrel, mutt or half-caste — flies around as a jab at biracial people more often than "half-blood."

    In J.K. Rowling's world, half-blood means "half magic." But the term — reflecting a dichotomy between magic/powerful and mundane/helpless — implies a hierarchy. This "magic" hierarchy directly resembles racial hierarchies.

    http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=1256
     
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  3. Gondolin Hell hath no fury like squid Registered Senior Member

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    Wow. First, parents are scared of their kids reading it because of witchcraft now Harry can only ride on the back of the bus? Yea, the first thing I did after reading this book was beat the hell out of a few Hispanic-Americans down the road because they weren't pure blood Americans.

    Ass.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    The whole premise of Harry Potter is that Harry and his friends are special. It's stretching a bit to compare that to racist thinking. There are many kinds of elites in the world, and only one kind is based on racism.
     
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  7. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Eh.. The article doesn't even SAY Harry Potter is racist. Stop with the sensationalism already.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    The thread title does.
     
  9. Dilbert Registered Senior Member

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    Harry Potter is a f***ing communist, he is always sharing and shit.
    And you are right, he is a racist! He is always messing with that kind aryan kid.

    I cannot for one second get into my narrow minded head how Harry Potter could be allowed to be read by anyone under the age of 18. He is breaking every rule the school has, and then he gets praised for it like as if he is some kind of saint. WTF will happen to the future MTV Generation if they are told that it is right to break laws?
     
  10. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Which makes the citation impertinent..
     
  11. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah yeah and he and his friends run around calling people "Mud bloods" which, if I recall correctly, is very close to a slur actually used by American white supremacists.

    Does Harry Potter express raciest views? Of course. Should J.K. Rowling be frowned upon for this? I don't think so. She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them. She probably doesn't even know she's doing it, and it's not as if she's actually making any derogatory statements against any actual race, so really in the end who cares?
     
  12. Gondolin Hell hath no fury like squid Registered Senior Member

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    And err.... Hermione is a lesbian. There, I said it.

    (thats all sarcasm by the way)
     
  13. Fathoms Banned Banned

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    actually all the wizards that use the term 'mud-blood' are looked upon as biggoted. There is a clear anti-racism/anti-discrimination theme in the series, especially Chamber of Secrets. Though one could make a case for the fact that all Slytherins tend to be assholes!
     
  14. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    I'll admit it, I've only seen the movies

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    this destinction between those who use the term mud blood and those who don't doesn't really seem to be particularly evident therein.
     
  15. Satyr Banned Banned

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    I hear that Gandalf is a racist also.
    And Frodo is gay.
     
  16. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    Frodo's a switch hitter.

    Racist, anti-racist... what a neurotic world.
     
  17. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Fantasy realms have always been filled with racism, so what's new? Half-elves (or any half-breed) have always been scorned. However, that is fantasy and roleplaying someone/thing else and not real life.. just too bad few can distinguish the two. So the book has racist elements in it, big deal, it's a book. Start complaining about racism in video games such as Grand Theft Auto now.

    - N
     
  18. jhlopes Registered Member

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    the most importante message that is sent is that of the main characters'choices and actions. Valour, friendship, loyalty, respect, honour and love are the values that are continuously mentioned in the saga...with those you are victorious...
    All this is psicologically good for kids who are still building a moral and ethic values...
    so your thematic is a bit ridiculous sorry to say...
     
  19. Closet Philosopher Off to Laurentian University Registered Senior Member

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    The Harry Potter books are fiction. In the primitive wizarding world, there is "racism" against half-breed and half-wizard people. It is one of the main themes of the book series (voldemort hates muggles even though he is a half breed himself etc.). This way of thinking is a minority among the characters in the book and many of them fight against this. The fine points of the story that are criticized are laughable. This is a classic example of people finding things in a story that don't exist to suit their way of thinking. Yes, there is magical background controversy but it's a book! There wouldn't be any interesting conflict in the story without these elements. If this world were real then it is likely that what happens in the story would be a real issue and it would need to be confronted instead of ignored.

    What's wrong with a story containing this?

    What's worse than people being racist is people that try to ignore the problem, who try to eliminate it in literature and who pretend it doesn't exist. What's wring with confronting "race" (it's not even really race) issues in a children's book anyway. The entire main plot is about the evil wizards and their doings which boils down to "pure bloods" vs "mudbloods". These are terms and segregation that existed for hundreds of years in this fictional world.

    In the real world, there was distinct racism and segregation until less than 50 years ago. Our parents and grandparents lived in this era to some extent. There is still a lot of racism today and it has changed forms from 50 years ago, but it is still at large. People make such a big deal out of a children's book but fail the see the big picture.
     
  20. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Um...doesn't harry and his friends campaign against the semi-racist ideologies of the death eaters, and the purists, and the et cetera? In the book. How could he be racist then?
    Either way, it's just a ****ing book.
     
  21. Closet Philosopher Off to Laurentian University Registered Senior Member

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    yes... exactly
     
  22. Satyr Banned Banned

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    I just heard Harry Potter is gay.
     
  23. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Then that's his business and ron's...

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    joking, eh, joking...
     

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