Harold Pinter's Nobel Speech

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by duendy, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    Harold Pinter, for those who may not know, is 'the finest living playwright recorded'.
    He was recently awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.
    As you will see--and it a MUST read--he gives an insight ino the creativity of writing plays, but also gives a devastating critique regarding U.s. and UK involvement in war, and American foreign policies since WW2.

    NONEof our media has reported ANYTHING about Pinter's presentation, nor his speech. Thi just shows how important it is for us to read it, and listen to his speech!! (actualy there is another website you can also hear audio of him. my system cant access audio etc. but i really recommend you also listen, as Pinter has a really good way of communicating)

    http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=29&t=000466
     
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  3. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Excellent speech, which I watched in full on television. Also noticed multiple reports on the speech in US as well as British newspapers, not to mention several references on the terrestrial news services. Your claim that our media have reported nothing about it reveals more about your observational powers than about the media.
     
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  5. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    Really. Well ,i consider myself fairly savvy reagarding 'what's on' but have not seen a MENTION ANYWHERE. infact the only time i heard of it was yesterday in the Observer in an article by Mary Riddle titled 'Prophet witout honour' "The Nobel prizefor literature was awarded yesterday to Harold Pinter......On Wednesday morning, the finest living British playwright recorded, from his wheelchair, an acceptance speech for the greatest literary prize on earth. Anyone who wishd to see an allusion to te talk, played in Sweden that day, would have searched BBC schedules in vain.
    He got no mention on either of the main television news programmes, 'Newsnight', voracious for culture, carried nothing. Pinter's speech wold have been restricted to the satelite channel, More4, had channel4 not decided, at the last minute, to put it ou t midnight digest.
    Apart from 'the Guardian' reprinting of te speech, press coverage was scant or mean.......David Hare...thinks the BBC ommission 'disgraceful'...... "

    Oph, the important thing is not who is or is not right about 'mass' media coverage, but the CONTENT of what he says
     
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  7. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Duendy I agree that is important, but when you make an absolute statement, as you did, that does not match reality, then that is actually devaluing the message you are trying to get across. Now I think in this case it is a very important message. I might have liked to have seen more coverage, but I certainly encountered a lot.
    I specifically checked on the Houston Chronicle. Dallas Morning News and Washington Post, because these are all papers I check on-line from time to time. All of them carried full articles on the speech.
     
  8. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    ...The HOUSTON Chronicle..??? who th fuk looksat that in the UK...etc!...you and yer abosultes, which shroud whats important,iiii dont know....trust you to make anote soddin isse out of Pinter's very imporant an passionate speech

    fact is that the BBC--an org supposedly for the people, as we pay em a fukin wad every year didn't braodcast it is THE main point boyo.....anyway forget this..jeeez

    what i wanna now know is tis. considering you thoght Pinter's speech powerful, and you ..agree? how comes you dont gfet othe shit.....? you get me. you seem to not g o f..a...rrr e ,,,,nuf!
     
  9. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    It is sometimes very difficult to communicate with you Duendy. Consider these points:
    1.In case you hadn't noticed, this site is frequented by people from around the world.
    2. I look at the Houston Chronicle from time to time because I visit Houston once or twice a year; because Houston is the third largest city in the US; because it helps to give insight into what 'America' is thinking.
    3. The fact that it was covered quite objectively by two papers in Bush's home state is, I think, very interesting.
    3. The BBC didn't broadcast it because they did not have broadcasting rights to it.
    4. Your last line is completely unintelligible.

    Again, though you do not like to hear it, you are actively discouraging people from viewing the speech at all, let alone in a positive light because:
    a) You are making erroneous absolute statements - as always
    b) You are maintaining your illiterate patois - as always
    c) You refuse to consider even a nuance of a point of view that differs from yourself - as always.

    Yours, affectionately always, Ophiolite
     
  10. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    ...and err, how do you know what people are gonna do??? ie., reading Pinter's speech....and what are you like? now you are DEFENDING Bush administration?...a breath ago yo were condemning BushCo......have you even read the speech youself

    your one mixed up fellow
     
  11. Light Registered Senior Member

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    No, he's not - you are.

    You don't seem to understand that every single time you promote something, you do so in such a gosh-awful sputtering manner that it actually causes people to NOT want to be interested. A cool, logical, rational approach (which works well for most people) just isn't in you.

    You're your (and the causes you support) own worst enemy.
     
  12. Overdose From the steppes of Mongolia Registered Senior Member

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    You can watch or read the text in multiple languages here
     
  13. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    It was a wire story, d00d. Houston is the JUSA's fourth-largest city.

    :m:
     
  14. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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