Does anyone else here listen to some truly hard stuff? Alas, I haven't really taken the time to peruse the threads to see if any have been listed, but I was wondering if there are some really hard bands out there worth listening to?

For instance, I quite enjoy <i>Iowa</i> by Slipknot. And I'm not talking speed metal here or retro punk. Something with a little kick like <b>anything</b> by Tool.

Chevelle. Mudvayne. Switched. Earshot. Factory 81. Flaw. Mushroomhead. System.

That kind of music. Anything else out there worth a listen? Someone mentioned NOFX and Type-O Negative though I haven't listened to any of their stuff.

I find that I listen to more hard-core stuff than soft, bouncy tunes (although I am a tremendous fan of musicals).

Thanks!

prag

Ummm. Tool, Type O, Chemlab, that sort of thing, yes.

hahahhahaha you think mallcore is hard.


LOL


:o

I must laugh as well.

Mallcore is poo.

Go buy an Autopsy CD or something.

Nile... Red Harvest... Trial of the Bow... Agathodaimon...

maybe Fear Factory - heavy metal it is

Haha. That is funny. He thinks mallcore is hard! Can't stop laughing. Ha. Hehe.

Oh wait, they're talking about me.

Thanks!

prag

Great title, pragmathen. lol :D

Chevelle. Mudvayne. Switched. Earshot. Factory 81. Flaw. Mushroomhead. System.
Gee whiz, if you think Flaw, Earshot, and Chevelle are hardcore metal...:eek: :)

System of a Down's a good metal choice (coming from me, a SOAD fan :rolleyes:), because they have a freaky cultish edge which is intoxicating. :)

Static-X is good. Queen...KISS... Does Alien Crime Syndicate count as metal? Or Union Underground? O! Disturbed is awesome. Linkin Park isn't metal, but it's good anyway. Tool's great.

NOTE: Linkin Park and TRUSTcompany are NOT metal! C'mon, if that's metal, then Britney Spears discovered uranium. Just because Chester Bennington screams in Hybrid Theory (which is milked, by the way) doesn't mean it's metal! Gah! Sparta is not metal, Extreme is not metal, Rage Against the Machine is not metal, Tantric is not metal, Nickelback is POP...

If you want truly evil metal, try Cradle of Filth. Slipknot is like baby food compared to that band. *shudders*

"If you want truly evil metal, try Cradle of Filth."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And what kind of music do you listen to, YouKilledJesus?

dreidle of faggotry is nothing more than a commercial gimmick band of fag-goth image based wanking for weekend mall-occultists.

I can't believe you link faggotery to soft music.

I bet you overcompensate for a small...

nah, probably not.


:D

Static X isn't hard. Its goof metal. Still good though.

Don't like any of the other bands mentioned though, especially Slipknot. BTW, Mushroomhead are playing near me in a few weeks time, a few of my friends are gonna see them. Problem is, its in a very, very, very small room. So a moshpit may be out of the question unless the owner doesn't mind the walls coming down

I like Static-X for Cold. What's goof metal?

Static X would be goof metal.

Cold isn't that good a song. I like 'In a bag' best

*still not understanding* :confused: What other bands would be considered goof metal?

I don't know. The only band I know thats goof metal is Static X. hang on, I'll search google

It shows nothing. But it is a sub genre though....I think. Or did i dream it?

the only thing metal about staticx is the steel 3" anal beads they all share.

I shake to wonder what kind of music you listen to, Christcrusher. :D

NILE is good

I enjoy Vulgar Pigeons and Axis of Advance more. They is good.

What your listening to is nu-metal not true metal..... try these bands..... although they are considered Melodic Metal (Well, most of them.)

In Flames
Dark Tranquility
At the Gates
Emperor
Nevermore
Carpathian Forest
Celtic Frost
Opeth
Paradise Lost
Soilwork
Symphony X
Testament

Bluesoulrobot, i think what he calls goof-metal is actually nu-metal - for the most part at least.

Originally posted by %BlueSoulRobot%
Great title, pragmathen. lol :D


Gee whiz, if you think Flaw, Earshot, and Chevelle are hardcore metal...:eek: :)

System of a Down's a good metal choice (coming from me, a SOAD fan :rolleyes:), because they have a freaky cultish edge which is intoxicating. :)

Static-X is good. Queen...KISS... Does Alien Crime Syndicate count as metal? Or Union Underground? O! Disturbed is awesome. Linkin Park isn't metal, but it's good anyway. Tool's great.

NOTE: Linkin Park and TRUSTcompany are NOT metal! C'mon, if that's metal, then Britney Spears discovered uranium. Just because Chester Bennington screams in Hybrid Theory (which is milked, by the way) doesn't mean it's metal! Gah! Sparta is not metal, Extreme is not metal, Rage Against the Machine is not metal, Tantric is not metal, Nickelback is POP...

If you want truly evil metal, try Cradle of Filth. Slipknot is like baby food compared to that band. *shudders*

Don't we all love being elitists?

Last time I checked, you weren't the god that invented metal, so you have no right to preach your OPINION as TRUTH.

All of those bands, with the possible exception of Nickelback, have metal influences. Nickelback isn't pop and you know it, you're just saying it for the indie cred.

Hard/Heavy could be in reference to lyrics also, but I know that is not what the original poster intended.

My metal taste doesn't go that far. It is a genre that I never really clicked with. I never liked KISS, always thought of them as really fake always wearing the makeup. Made it seem like the costume was more important than the show, though I know lots of my fav bands like Weezer consider KISS a major influence.

Hard stuff I listen to:

Nine Inch Nails
Marilyn Manson
System of a Down
Rage Against The Machine
The Dream Is Dead (www.thedreamisdead.com)

i saw nile last year with cradle of filth. well.. i didn't actuallye SEE them... we were laying on the floor in the lobby... but i heard them. lol.

Type-O Negative though I haven't listened to any of their stuff.

oh boy.
stand up. now. do it. im not kidding.
ok, grab the car keys/bycicle/subway ticket/skateboard/roller blades.
find your way to the nearest music store.
buy type o negative, bloody kisses.
go home.
put it in cd player.
thank me later.

Nickleback:
yes, i want my fucking nickleback. becuase your damn cd was NOT worht it! so give me my money back!

nickleback is in the same catagory as faith hill.
their lyrics are simple, and the words they use are incredible overused.
example:
i am not a leader of men,
cuz i refuse to follow.
do you think i can have a drink,
cuz its too hard to swallow.

wow. the skill there is just blinding.
and why i compare them to faith hill:

its not right
its not fair
what your missing
over there.

and it doesn't help that she says this little verse incredibly slow and over-annunciated.

I like Melt Banana, but I guess they're more "noisy" than they are "hard".

What bands do you listen to?

thats quite a question. id have to say i listen to everything. i coach a dance team of 7th and 8th grade girls, so i need a well rounded selection of music to choreograph. and i keep it just that. last year, they competed with sstem of a down, and they received really high marks for orgiionallity and music. :)

but as for what i listen to myself...
Cradle of filth is one of my definate favorites. i hated them when i first heard them. but then i read their lyrics and i was in love.
LifeHouse: can be overplayed a bit,a nd sappy, but i love to listen to the last half of their cd after a long day of cleaning, when im relaxing.
Tonic: i listen to when going to sleep.
System of a down... i listen to occasionally.. but ill proabaly wait till they com out with a nother cd. it seems like each cd they produce only has a few goodies.. so ya got wait of rthe next one. like.. they have 4 good songs, and 8 fillers. lol.
Type o negative. for sentimental reasons.
Mustard Plug, when im in a need of a punk/ska pick-me-up
JaRule: that mans voice is melty. although the words coming out arn't usually that great.
Ours: for those depressing days.
alot of other bands that i only like one or two songs from, like stone sour: bother.. or flogging molly: irish drinking song.
im moslty more of a song person than a band person, except the few i mentioned above.
hm. sorry that got to be so long. skim if you like. LOL

Originally posted by YoungWriter
Don't we all love being elitists?

Last time I checked, you weren't the god that invented metal, so you have no right to preach your OPINION as TRUTH.

All of those bands, with the possible exception of Nickelback, have metal influences. Nickelback isn't pop and you know it, you're just saying it for the indie cred.
If you really want to talk to the "Gods of Metal", contact YouKilledJesus and ChristCrusher. They both laughed when I said that Cradle of Filth was scary metal. :) By the way, how did you check on my current status? I'd like access to that book...:D

Sorry about the preaching. :o It's just that sometimes I get into it too much, you know what I mean? But really, since you acknowledge my opinion as an opinion, it really shouldn't bother you that much, because, hey, we're all individuals, we have different ideas. Did I berate YKJ and CC for their laughter at my musical preferences? Nope. I just got really really scared. :D

Example of their ideas: dreidle of faggotry is nothing more than a commercial gimmick band of fag-goth image based wanking for weekend mall-occultists.
the only thing metal about staticx is the steel 3" anal beads they all share.

Sometimes I really wonder what pop is. It's short for popular, right? And ever since Linkin Park had some famous songs, some idiots have been calling it pop. I...I really don't know what to think anymore. What makes metal, "metal"? How does one specify whether such and such is "pop", and that this is not? I'd like to know your thoughts, Writer. :) (And no, I will not use your response as a way to start an argument...I'm just curious to see people's categorizations.) And as a fellow SOAD and RATM fan, I just want to say "You've got nice taste". :D

Originally Posted By Nightfall
System of a down... i listen to occasionally.. but ill proabaly wait till they com out with a nother cd. it seems like each cd they produce only has a few goodies.. so ya got wait of rthe next one. like.. they have 4 good songs, and 8 fillers. lol. [/b]
Ouch. :D Have you checked out their first one? It's supposed to be really good (from what I've heard).

Originally Posted By ShadowStrife911
Bluesoulrobot, i think what he calls goof-metal is actually nu-metal - for the most part at least.
Nu-metal...? Hold on, I'll go download some of the bands you recommended, and I'll try to see the difference. :)

Originally Posted by Thor
Cold isn't that good a song. I like 'In a bag' best
Ooh, you mean "Shit In A Bag"? *shrug* Yeah, that one's good, but I still like "Cold", since it was on the Queen of the Damned Soundtrack. :p

What bands do you listen to?
I'm into a lot of stuff. (not in any order, separated for your convenience)
Vangelis, Bach, System Of A Down, Yanni, Kenny G, Train...

Henry Purcell, Enigma, Good Charlotte, A New Found Glory, Howard Shore's "The Lord of the Rings" S/T...

Rage Against The Machine, Linkin Park (not so good feeling about Reanimation...), Sw1tched, TRUSTcompany, Moist, Jimmy Eat World, Disturbed, The Calling, Gackt...

Hyde, Suzanne Ciani, Dashboard Confessional, Sparta, Chevelle, 311, Bill Douglas, Matt Redman...

Sonic Flood, Papa Roach, Westlife, BBMak, Something Corporate, Injected, No Doubt, Default...

(let's just say the list goes on) :)

Ouch. Have you checked out their first one? It's supposed to be really good (from what I've heard). yes, and my opinion still stands.. maybe im too picky. lol. :)


tonight i heard something else to add to my list.. although not yet confirmed. lol.
the queen of the damned soundrtack.. great for um... "bedtime" -cough cough-:D

Being metal influenced is different from being metal.

Some metal bands to check out (via filesharing or otherwise):

Autopsy
Graveland
Immolation
Destroyer666
Mortem
Havohej
Sarcofago
Voivod
Pestilence
Sodom
Kreator
Hellhammer

...and many, many more.

Sometimes I really wonder what pop is. It's short for popular, right? And ever since Linkin Park had some famous songs, some idiots have been calling it pop. I...I really don't know what to think anymore. What makes metal, "metal"? How does one specify whether such and such is "pop", and that this is not? I'd like to know your thoughts, Writer. (And no, I will not use your response as a way to start an argument...I'm just curious to see people's categorizations.) And as a fellow SOAD and RATM fan, I just want to say "You've got nice taste".

My musical tastes range from anything and everythig, with the sole exceptions of world music and country.

Bands/Groups I'm into are Beastie Boys (yes, they actually do play their own instruments), Smashing Pumpkins, Aretha Franklin, BB King, Eric Clapton and Weezer, plus previously mentioned bands.

To me, many bands and groups out there are too diverse to be confined to one genre. Creed was considered alternative before the hit, With Arms Wide Open, showing that they had what it takes to be a ballad band too. Sorry, for using Creed as an example, only one I could think of.

Pop is whatever is popular at the time. That means, at one time, Nirvana was pop. In the 60s and 70s, Led Zep, Beatles, and Hendrix were pop. In the early 90s, rock was the alternative music and rap was pop. Pop=popular. A band can still rock and be pop, it just means that they get airplay, although I have to say, Linkin Park's only song on a pop station that ive heard is "in the end"

Old Favorites:

• Carnivore
• Venom
• Dark Angel
• Stormtroopers of Death
• Melvins

New Heavies:

•_Catholic School Girls
• TV 6:16


The Actual Old Metal I Loved in High School

• Sanctuary
• King Diamond/Mercyful Fate
•_Anthrax
•_Candlemass
•_D.R.I.
• The Great Kat
• The Forbidden
•_Flotsam and Jetsam
• Panic
• Slayer

Heaviest Shows

• Floater/TV 6:16
• QOTSA
• Tool/Melvins
• Megadeth/Anthrax/Slayer/Alice in Chains ("Clash of the Titans 1990")
• King Diamond/Flotsam and Jetsam (10/15/1989, first metal concert)

Best Heavy Shows:

•_QOTSA @ Graceland, Seattle, WA, 6.2002
•_Floater @ Crystal Ballroom, Portland, OR, "The Great Release", date unk.
• Floater @ Crystal Ballroom, Portland, OR, "Burning Sosobra debut", date unk.
• Tool/Melvins @ Mercer Arena, Seattle, WA, date unk.
• Alice in Chains @ Bumbershoot, Seattle, WA, "Facelift" release day, 9.1990 (incl. "Queen of the Rodeo", complete with velvet gloves and pink suede stetson for Andy Wood, the last time I ever heard that song)
• AC/DC @ Tacoma Dome, Tacoma, WA, date unk.

(I'm really just too lazy to look up the dates. The Floater "Great Release" show is marked in the CD sleeve, and the "Burning Sosobra" debut is bootlegged somewhere in this house with the date on the MD. The Tool show was a few years ago, amid or right before their contract dispute. The AC/DC show was, as far as I know, the most recent tour--2000, I think.)

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

Creed was considered alternative before the hit, With Arms Wide Open, showing that they had what it takes to be a ballad band too.
i dont really understand how creed qould "change genres" since EVERY SONG sounds EXACTLY the same. you have to wait till the chorus to figure out which song it is it gets so bad.

Originally posted by nightfall
i dont really understand how creed qould "change genres" since EVERY SONG sounds EXACTLY the same. you have to wait till the chorus to figure out which song it is it gets so bad.

I'm embarassed to associate myself with you if you can't tell the difference between "arms wide open" and "what if":p

yes, i can tell the differance, one is slow and monotonous, the other is rediculously repetitive. the lead singer of creed (im sorry, i do not follow bands closely enough to know their names) uses his voice in the same manner for every song. nickleback does the same thing. both bands sound very simialr, and a both irritating aswell. the reason i say the songs all sound the same is because the music never really changes the main few chords, just picks up or slows down... there is never anything new to the music, nothing to hold your intrest. just a list of songs about the world, its people, and god... followed by.. god dammit, fuck you, etc. :rolleyes:

this thread is pure comedy :o

Yeah, that happens a lot.

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