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Light Travelling
12-05-06, 07:31 AM
What is the cause of the increasing trend towards body hairlessness in the world.

Go back 60 years, women would shave their legs, men their faces and that was about it. Then women started shaving armpits, bikini lines. Then waxing the legs, bikini line, the Brazilian, the Hollywood…:eek:. Now many women maintain hairless bodies. Men too are at it as well, first just trimming body hair a bit, but now many men wax / shave chests, backs etc. It is not uncommon to see beauty salons offering waxing for 'men and women'. Some men even wax their legs.

But what are the psychological reasons;
Is it a sub conscious psychological move away from our animal past? are we becoming less hairy as we evolve and we seek to speed that process up.

Is it just a fashion? Are people just following celebrity / magazine images and doing what they feel they should? If so in 30 years will fashions change and everyone will want to proudly display their body hair again? (I hope not)

Baron Max
12-05-06, 08:56 AM
What is the cause of the increasing trend towards body hairlessness in the world.

Is this trend really worldwide? Or are you just making that leap of assumption from a fashion trend in the western nations?

Do the women in the Bonga-Tango tribe in northeastern Zuli-ania shave their legs and armpits?

Baron Max

Light Travelling
12-05-06, 09:11 AM
Is this trend really worldwide? Or are you just making that leap of assumption from a fashion trend in the western nations?

Do the women in the Bonga-Tango tribe in northeastern Zuli-ania shave their legs and armpits?

Baron Max



good point, I really dont know whther it is in every part of the world, but it is in different parts of the world. Certainly the USA, Europe, Australia, Columbia, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Canada and I would say Japan as well.... I am not sure whether it is prevelant in other countries.

CANGAS
12-06-06, 02:19 AM
Get real. When you are kissing your beloved from head to toe, do you actually enjoy getting HAIR in your mouth?

Prince_James
12-06-06, 05:54 AM
The ancient Egyptians would shave off all hair on their body - including their head's.

swivel
12-06-06, 06:27 AM
Because hair gets in your mouth, which ruins the mood.

Baron Max
12-06-06, 07:19 AM
Because hair gets in your mouth, which ruins the mood.

Doesn't take much to ruin YOUR mood, does it? Must not have been a very good mood!

Baron Max

Light Travelling
12-06-06, 08:38 AM
The ancient Egyptians would shave off all hair on their body - including their head's.

and with egyptian style razors that must have been a pretty sore business..

Light Travelling
12-06-06, 09:23 AM
The ancient Egyptians would shave off all hair on their body - including their head's.



Do you know if the Egyptians did as part of a religious rite, or just as a fashion?

S.A.M.
12-06-06, 09:52 PM
and with egyptian style razors that must have been a pretty sore business..

Egyptians don't shave they use a homemade sugar wax (even today).

Here is a recipe:
http://www0.epinions.com/content_912826500

Baron Max
12-07-06, 07:32 AM
Egyptians don't shave they use a homemade sugar wax (even today).

All Egyptians??

Baron Max

Light Travelling
12-07-06, 07:42 AM
Egyptians don't shave they use a homemade sugar wax (even today).

Here is a recipe:
http://www0.epinions.com/content_912826500


For ancient Egyptians to have discovered this method of hair removal it must have been an important thing for them. I mean someone doesn’t accidentally discover something like that (with no prior knowledge of waxing as we have) unless they have been spending time trying to remove hair in other ways.

So, why was hair removal so important to the Egyptians (or to any of us) – is it just a tactile thing? But then, we all like running fingers through each others head hair, so hair is tactilely good sometimes (no one likes to stroke a hairless cat)

Are we just trying to psychologically move away from hairy animals?

Or did it start as a religious ceremony in Egypt and has been copied since??

S.A.M.
12-07-06, 07:45 AM
All Egyptians??

Baron Max

I don't know about the men, but women, I would say yes.

The men would use razors, I suppose. Hard to style a beard with wax.

All the ones I met said that Egyptians make or buy halawa (the sugar wax) in preference to all other depilatory methods.

Its also common in other ME countries.

S.A.M.
12-07-06, 07:47 AM
For ancient Egyptians to have discovered this method of hair removal it must have been an important thing for them. I mean someone doesn’t accidentally discover something like that (with no prior knowledge of waxing as we have) unless they have been spending time trying to remove hair in other ways.

So, why was hair removal so important to the Egyptians (or to any of us) – is it just a tactile thing? But then, we all like running fingers through each others head hair, so hair is tactilely good sometimes (no one likes to stroke a hairless cat)

Are we just trying to move away from hairy animals?

Or did it start as a religious ceremony in Egypt and has been copied since??

The Egyptians also wore make-up and made hair pieces (even when they had their own hair). They were just fashion conscious, I guess. And the depilation is for hedonistic reasons as well as for better hygiene in the hot desert climate. The sugar, honey, lemon combination acts as an excellent moisturiser and softens the skin to baby smoothness.

Light Travelling
12-07-06, 07:58 AM
Ok its hedonistic, I am not denying that. We all like to touch each others hairless bodies. It feels good for the both the toucher and the recipient.

My wonder is, is this purley physical or is there a psychological aspect?

After all they say sex is mainly a mental activity. Does this not hold true for all tactile contacts...

Baron Max
12-07-06, 08:16 AM
Ok its hedonistic, I am not denying that. We all like to touch each others hairless bodies. It feels good for the both the toucher and the recipient.

Hmm, I don't know about that. For example, everyone that I know who pets a soft, warm, little puppy gushes with happiness and joy and pleasure. And if I'm not mistaken, little puppies have lots of soft, luxurious fur.

My guess is, if humans had soft, luxurious coats of fur, we'd love to touch and caress that soft furriness, wouldn't we? I think so.

Baron Max

Light Travelling
12-07-06, 09:03 AM
Hmm, I don't know about that. For example, everyone that I know who pets a soft, warm, little puppy gushes with happiness and joy and pleasure. And if I'm not mistaken, little puppies have lots of soft, luxurious fur.

My guess is, if humans had soft, luxurious coats of fur, we'd love to touch and caress that soft furriness, wouldn't we? I think so.

Baron Max


Yea, no one loves a shaved cat........ but a shaved pussy seems to be ok..

Light Travelling
12-07-06, 09:03 AM
My guess is, if humans had soft, luxurious coats of fur, we'd love to touch and caress that soft furriness, wouldn't we? I think so.

Baron Max

Actually , sounds like some gentic mods for the future.


New fashion "dont wear fur , grow fur".

S.A.M.
12-07-06, 09:54 AM
Ok its hedonistic, I am not denying that. We all like to touch each others hairless bodies. It feels good for the both the toucher and the recipient.

My wonder is, is this purley physical or is there a psychological aspect?

After all they say sex is mainly a mental activity. Does this not hold true for all tactile contacts...

Same reason we wear jewelry, perfume ourselves, cut and style our hair, wear makeup, high heels, tight fitting clothes, expensive lingerie, etc.

Prince_James
12-07-06, 10:17 AM
Light Travelling:

It was due to: 1. The heat. 2. Sexual purposes.

The Egyptians were a very sensual people. Even men would wear makeup. It is also notable that ancient Egyptian has no word for "virgin".

Light Travelling
12-08-06, 07:27 AM
Light Travelling:

It was due to: 1. The heat. 2. Sexual purposes.

The Egyptians were a very sensual people. Even men would wear makeup. It is also notable that ancient Egyptian has no word for "virgin".


Egyptians – hot in every sense of the word then.



Same reason we wear jewelry, perfume ourselves, cut and style our hair, wear makeup, high heels, tight fitting clothes, expensive lingerie, etc.


Is that much of our lives really taken up with sexually motivated behaviour (whether conscious or unconscious), or do people do these things just because they feel they are supposed to …... because society expects it?

S.A.M.
12-08-06, 07:30 AM
Is that much of our lives really taken up with sexually motivated behaviour (whether conscious or unconscious), or do people do these things just because they feel they are supposed to …... because society expects it?

Isn't that the goal of the species? Reproduction?

Light Travelling
12-08-06, 09:07 AM
Isn't that the goal of the species? Reproduction?

Of the species, yes. Of the individual, I am not so sure. Of course we are influenced greatly by reproductive genes and hormones, but there seems to be more than that to us humans.

Do post menopausal women still shave their legs? yes... why?
Do post menopausal women still enjoy sex? yes... why?
Back to Egyptians agian - did eunuchs just give up the will to live... no

Throughout history nuns, monks and even academics have dedicated their lives to other things than reproduction.


It cant be just about reproduction can it.

Baron Max
12-08-06, 10:51 AM
It cant be just about reproduction can it.

It's about mating! And oddly enough, mating usually leads to reproduction.

In every animal, the instinctive drive to mate is one of the strongest of all drives. To think that humans don't have that drive to mate is both silly, and is ignorant at the same time.

If females perceived that men like women with purple hair, women would begin to dye their hair purple! How can you not see that?

Baron Max

Sandoz
12-09-06, 03:20 PM
But what are the psychological reasons;
Is it a sub conscious psychological move away from our animal past? are we becoming less hairy as we evolve and we seek to speed that process up.

Is it just a fashion? Are people just following celebrity / magazine images and doing what they feel they should? If so in 30 years will fashions change and everyone will want to proudly display their body hair again? (I hope not)I think it's a matter of the fashion world imposing their desiderata on us. Especially for the requirement of hairless bodies on men, which is because the vast majority of men in the fashion industry are gay, and want men to conform to the (or a) gay ideal of masculinity, instead of a female ideal of masculinity.

As for myself, I have no hair below the neck, but find men who shave their body hair despicably ridiculous. You may find it hypocritical but I've never had a problem holding men and women to different standards.

Anyway, I want my men to be MEN, not metrosexuals who make appointments with beauticians and pluck their nipples.

tablariddim
12-09-06, 04:12 PM
Some men are just too hairy, they have it on their backs, their shoulders, their sides, up their noses, in their ears...just too much!

Athletic men prefer to wax to show off their toned physiques and in that case I think they look cool, but a man who is out of shape and is also waxed, just looks pathetic.

Personally, since my chest hair has turned white, I prefer to trim most of it off, which makes for a younger looking body and also matches my bald shaved head. My shaved crotch and balls are purely a sensual thing and make me feel like a porn stud.

Fraggle Rocker
12-09-06, 05:38 PM
Get real. When you are kissing your beloved from head to toe, do you actually enjoy getting HAIR in your mouth?As a matter of fact, that's part of the experience. I too am perplexed and alienated by this bizarre trend. I've never seen one of these plucked chickens live but the occasional photographs really turn me off.

Light Travelling
12-11-06, 09:25 AM
As for myself, I have no hair below the neck, but find men who shave their body hair despicably ridiculous. You may find it hypocritical but I've never had a problem holding men and women to different standards.

Anyway, I want my men to be MEN, not metrosexuals who make appointments with beauticians and pluck their nipples.


How do you feel about men with beards? or do you expect a certain level of grooming from men?

Light Travelling
12-11-06, 10:13 AM
As for myself, I have no hair below the neck.

OK , but how would it make you feel if you did have hair below your neck. Would it make you feel un attractive or wouldn't it bother you at all?

I mean do you remove hair to attract the opposite sex or do you do it for yourself i.e. because it make you feel good.

Coolies!
12-11-06, 12:36 PM
As for myself, I have no hair below the neck, but find men who shave their body hair despicably ridiculous. You may find it hypocritical but I've never had a problem holding men and women to different standards.

Anyway, I want my men to be MEN, not metrosexuals who make appointments with beauticians and pluck their nipples.

Very well done I can't stand this metrosexual culture either! Men are men, OK clean is good but if any men I know started filing their nails or waxing their chests or wearing makeup for men, i would think they were on the turn :bugeye: Men are supposed to be tough and not want to be all dolled up as much as possible. I saw a lad in a concert wipe sweat/grease off his face with that cosmetic grease proof paper!! it is not attractive, what was wrong with just the back of his hand!

Every1 is getting prettier, but MEN, are not supposed to be pretty!!

sderenzi
12-11-06, 03:00 PM
I feel naughty, this is something directly releative to myself. I recently shaved my lower area and my arm pits, something about it just feels cool, ya walk around nobody really knowing LOL

PS Woman are sexy hairless, except for head... me wanna bang'm

kmguru
12-11-06, 03:13 PM
Indian women use various tools including turmeric paste to remove body hair. My one son who is in to body building shaves his body hair. For some reason I lost my body hair in the last ten years (doctor thinks alopecia) which my son wants....

Coolies!
12-13-06, 04:47 AM
Women are not sexy hairless. The vagina area without any hair!:confused: Bald!! Surely it looks just like a little girls?

Light Travelling
12-13-06, 06:58 AM
Indian women use various tools including turmeric paste ..

Wouldn't that stain the skin?



The vagina area without any hair!:confused: Bald!! Surely it looks just like a little girls?

Do you think this current trend towards hairless women encourages paedophilia to a certain extent??

superluminal
12-13-06, 08:53 PM
The less hair the better.



coolies:

Women are not sexy hairless. The vagina area without any hair! Bald!! Surely it looks just like a little girls?

Yes, they are. And apparently that's why the vast majority of men like clean shaven pubic areas on women. They also seem to like playing babydoll dressup with their women and being called "daddy"... Hmmmm....

valich
12-13-06, 10:28 PM
Psychologically, girls are aesthetically more beautiful without hair on their bodies, except for on their head. The natural curves in women are also more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the straight features found on men. Some women like hairy guys, others don't, still most could care less either way and don't view this as being important.

In terms of evolution, I think the major view is that humans lost their fur after the last major ice age because of the need to cool themselves by perspiring in the heat - the "out-of-Africa" theory. Putting on clothes instead of remaining in the buff might've accelerated the process.

Coolies!
12-14-06, 10:13 AM
Well we were human by the time we moved out of Africa so we would have been hairless in Africa and Europe. The only people in the world that run around in the buff are naturists, even pigmy tribes and African tribes wear some sort of clothes.

I never actually did think of the hairless women=paeodphilia link but from what has been said here there does seem to be 1, its distressing. There is some sort of strange cross over where men want no hair like a little girl but breasts and curves like a real woman.

And as to women curves are more pleasing to the eye than angular features of a man, u are talking from a mans point of view lovey. I certainly enjoy the triangular back shape of a well toned man. oooh back and shoulders.

I like hairy chests and bellies on men.

Stryder
12-14-06, 11:05 AM
I think it was more down to the Ancient Roman Empire considering Romans installed Baths throughout. In those baths they didn't just wash but were also groomed, notibly one particular method involved having oil rubbed all over the body which was then removed with a copper razor. This removed the impurities from people pores while also dealing with body hair.

Further back in history still there was the Greek Spartan warriors that used to bath and often be seen nude before battles which I believe too also use to remove body hair.

Light Travelling
12-15-06, 04:08 AM
I think it was more down to the Ancient Roman Empire considering Romans installed Baths throughout. In those baths they didn't just wash but were also groomed, notibly one particular method involved having oil rubbed all over the body which was then removed with a copper razor. This removed the impurities from people pores while also dealing with body hair.

Further back in history still there was the Greek Spartan warriors that used to bath and often be seen nude before battles which I believe too also use to remove body hair.

Didn't both these cultures have strong homosexual traditions?


I know that it was common for ancient Greek men to be married and have children and relations with their wives , but to also have hedonistic sexual relations with young male friends as well.

I am not so sure about Romans but believe bi-sexuality was also practised by the decadent upper classes.... the same classes that would be presumably bathing and shaving body hair?

Is there a link between the level of homosexuality in a society and the level of body hair removal?