Haha...
temporary_illusion back with Asguard...
November back with Adam...

Incredible...
I'm the kindest guy in the world, the girl dump me and she doesn't come back... :(

You two are VERY LUCKY!!!! :bugeye: :eek:

I did nothing wrong... :(
She dumped me about 10 months ago...

You two are REALLY very lucky!!
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Congratulations world! Everyone is Loved besides me!
And it's me that teaches Love...
It's me that is REALLY kind...
It's me that is patient
It's me that is honest
It's me that respects
It's me that loves to help
It's me that Loves unconditionally
It's me that Loves so much...
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Do you know what?
I have to be alone...
Because I have to teach this world what is REALLY to Love...
...
So much Love and all wasted...?
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Excuse me... I'm taking pilot lessons...
I'm being serious...

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

I have "news"...

The last post had a sentence that was incorrect...
The correct sentence is...

I'm the most loved person in this world!
:):):)

Nothing changed... I just have faith...

You are faster than me to reply Avatar... ;)

Nelson, of course you are loved, by many.:)
But have you ever wondered if all those "it's me...", may be what you should concentrate on seeing in others instead?

Yes Nelson! I agree with Bebelina here, totally! :)

Anyways, I do love you.:) You are a sweetheart and don't you forget it. :)

It will go easier on you in time. Keep the faith... ;)

Oh man. He's gotten to himself.

"Incredible...
I'm the kindest guy in the world, "

And the ego goes on.....and on........and on........
How many times you gonna make me say this nelson??


'I did nothing wrong...
She dumped me about 10 months ago..."

How long did you go out with her?



"And it's me that teaches Love...
It's me that is REALLY kind...
It's me that is patient
It's me that is honest
It's me that respects
It's me that loves to help
It's me that Loves unconditionally
It's me that Loves so much..."

Dude!!!!??????!!!!! Why do you set me up like this???? Calm your fucking ego down man. You are NOT the be all the end all. Ever think that maybe it's the fact that you're so hung-up on yourself that drives away the chicks.


"So much Love and all wasted...?"

You have soooooooo much to learn Nelson.

Beb and Banshee,

But have you ever wondered if all those "it's me...", may be what you should concentrate on seeing in others instead?

I do see those things in my ex... :)
But not in others...

Mostly, in some sense... I Love her because she went out with me, but I also Love her because she dumped me. If she hasn't brake with me, I couldn't say nothing about Love. All this comes from my experience with her. Can I NOT Love her for that?

Why doesn't the Universe let me thank her for what she did?
YES!! I'm thanking her because she broke with me!!
If she hasn't done that, I would need much more time to learn all those things...

That's why I Love her! And it's not only that...

She has something of unique...
It's just the way she is...

It's unfair from the Universe to not let me be a channel of blessings for her... :(

Btw... as I said in the card thread, I need to concentrate on myself now...


Tyler,

"Incredible...
I'm the kindest guy in the world, "

And the ego goes on.....and on........and on........
How many times you gonna make me say this nelson??


...
It's me that is honest

How long did you go out with her?

3 days... why...?

Dude!!!!??????!!!!! Why do you set me up like this???? Calm your fucking ego down man. You are NOT the be all the end all. Ever think that maybe it's the fact that you're so hung-up on yourself that drives away the chicks.

I actually don't usually talk about myself with girls... not in this sense...:bugeye:

Ask people that KNOW me...
I'm not egocentric... I'm just open-hearted...
I can't do nothing, it's just the way I am...

Love,
Nelson

YES!! I'm thanking her because she broke with me!! she has totally brainwshed your headIf she hasn't done that, I would need much more time to learn all those things... better spend your time on finding you another girlfriend 3 days... why...? are you serious?

"Why doesn't the Universe let me thank her for what she did?
YES!! I'm thanking her because she broke with me!!
If she hasn't done that, I would need much more time to learn all those things..."

"3 days... why...?"

Dude, one relationship of 3 days long is about 1/1,000,000,000 of how much you need to experience before you can say you have one fucking clue what love/relationships truly work like and to learn the ways of life. I beg of you to believe me on this one. I'm honestly begging.



"I actually don't usually talk about myself with girls... not in this sense..."

Praise the lord. I sure as hell hope not. You aren't going to have many fans if you go around believing you hold the answers.



"Ask people that KNOW me...
I'm not egocentric... I'm just open-hearted...
I can't do nothing, it's just the way I am..."

On these boards you've come across as extraordinarily arrogant. I can't claim I actually know, but as little as you think it I'm willing to bet you do things that make you come across as arrogant in real life too. Claiming you know (almost or) everything about love and life would DEFINETLY come across as arrogant.


"Nelson, many of us like you..."

Three months since Lindsay. That's starting to get to the long point, I need something new.

3 days... why...?

Nelson, did you know this girl for a longer time period? You only went out with her for three days?

On these boards you've come across as extraordinarily arrogant. I can't claim I actually know, but as little as you think it I'm willing to bet you do things that make you come across as arrogant in real life too. Claiming you know (almost or) everything about love and life would DEFINETLY come across as arrogant.

No, I don't think he's coming across as arrogant. He is just expressing how he feels and what his opinion on life is. He is free to do so. I doubt he is saying things in his daily life exactly the same way as he is doing here on the boards.

Not arrogant in any way...

'Not arrogant in any way..."

Thinking you hold all the answers and know everything about love and life, to me that's arrogant.

""Incredible...
I'm the kindest guy in the world...

And it's me that teaches Love...
It's me that is REALLY kind...
It's me that is patient
It's me that is honest
It's me that respects
It's me that loves to help
It's me that Loves unconditionally
It's me that Loves so much..."

Yeah you're right. Not at all arrogant......

Nelson, dude, listen to Tyler. I understand women about as much as I understand men - which is to say, not for shit, but - the ego is a huge turn-off.

Self confidence is one thing - having an ego the size of Manhatten is another. Also, romantic is usually good (makes Xev gag, but she's in the minority) but you are over-doing it. WAAAAAAAAAAAAY overdoing it.

Tyler: Why, not at all arrogant. Nelson simply knows the secrets of the universe and all....

TruthSeeker: To me it really sounds like you are trying way to hard... Try to be yourself more.
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It's me that is REALLY kind...
It's me that is patient
It's me that is honest
It's me that respects
It's me that loves to help
It's me that Loves unconditionally
It's me that Loves so much...
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I was there saying all of these things once...
Then I noticed that people don't respect/like you for being nice. People like you for being yourself, different, but acceptable.
The way you say these things about yourself, sounds like you are really proud of these things - you shouldn't be so proud of yourself...
Hope this helps in one way or another..

Banshee,

Nelson, did you know this girl for a longer time period? You only went out with her for three days?

I know her since September/October of last year. She is REALLY different than most people and I see much more inside her than even her sees (at least it seems so...:bugeye: )

He is just expressing how he feels and what his opinion on life is. He is free to do so. I doubt he is saying things in his daily life exactly the same way as he is doing here on the boards.

It's pretty much it... :)


Xev,

Nelson, dude, listen to Tyler.

Nope...:bugeye:
I have to express myself...:bugeye:


ndrs,

To me it really sounds like you are trying way to hard... Try to be yourself more.

Yeah... you got it right...
I'm trying to be more myself... but I had fear of being myself...
Melissa brokes this fear, but I still have to relearn...

I used to be really funny when I was little... :D
But... not a good life... :(

Then I noticed that people don't respect/like you for being nice. People like you for being yourself, different, but acceptable.

I'm like I said here... I really am... I'm not kidding...
As I said before, I'm trying to be funny again... but is a struggle... :(

The way you say these things about yourself, sounds like you are really proud of these things - you shouldn't be so proud of yourself...

Not exactly proud... more self-confident...
But I don't see those things in much people...:bugeye:

Honestly... I don't know what's wrong...
But I'm sure it's not for being proud or arrogant...

Love,
Nelson

truthseeker,

You have to admit you do talk a lot about yourself and YOUR ideas. I strongly suspect that the way you express yourself here is quite likely to be the way you talk to others. Am I wrong on this?

But a little hint that I learnt when I was a teenager – if you find yourself about to start a sentence with the word “I” then it usually means you are about to be boring.

The best approach I found in relationships was to be genuinely interested in my prospective partner and most of my statements were questions about what she wanted. Any statements about myself were the result of direct questions and my answers were always kept very short. If she is genuinely interested in you then the rapport between the two of you will be rapid and great fun. But the interest must be GENUINE, anything forced will be detected very quickly and then you are doomed.

In successful relationships - always think about the other person, and NEVER about what you want. Love should never be an objective. If love is to occur then it will be a result of actions concerning other things.

Don’t try and love someone. It doesn’t work that way. Love is not something you do; it is something that happens when the conditions are right. You cannot force love to occur, and the more you try the further it will retreat.

Cris

Cris,

You have to admit you do talk a lot about yourself and YOUR ideas. I strongly suspect that the way you express yourself here is quite likely to be the way you talk to others. Am I wrong on this?

Not quite. First, I talk about myself because there's anything in this world I know better than myself. Second, I'm pretty rationally closed to others in my common life, eventhough I'm somewhat emotionally open.

The best approach I found in relationships was to be genuinely interested in my prospective partner and most of my statements were questions about what she wanted.

I always do that. Actually, my friend is pretty opened with me. :)

In successful relationships - always think about the other person, and NEVER about what you want. Love should never be an objective. If love is to occur then it will be a result of actions concerning other things.

Fun... By having fun... :)

Don’t try and love someone. It doesn’t work that way. Love is not something you do; it is something that happens when the conditions are right. You cannot force love to occur, and the more you try the further it will retreat.

Pretty much. But with you are friend with someone and you have lots of fun with her, Love is likely... :)

Love,
Nelson

We silly humans...

Originally posted by Tyler

"3 days... why...?"

Dude, one relationship of 3 days long is about 1/1,000,000,000 of how much you need to experience before you can say you have one fucking clue what love/relationships truly work like and to learn the ways of life. I beg of you to believe me on this one. I'm honestly begging.

I'd like to add a bit to strengthen Tylers point here. Just to put life into perspective and all that.

Having been present at the birth of my 3 kids and watched my wife suffer from gall stone problems after the first pregnancy. Then to suffer pre-eclampsia for 2 months with a 24 hour stay in intensive care afterwards, during the third, I think I have experienced a bit more of life. Add to that 18 months of PPD she suffered brought on by our second daughters reflux probem. A problem that was eventually fixed by surgery as she was born with a hiatus hernia. Mix into that the normal financial problems of running a house, a daughter with ADD, two grandparents with a list of medical problems as long as your arm and I think Tyler has a point. You have a bit more of life to experience yet.

thed,

I won't have problems...

Where do you get this ego? Where did it develope? Like did someone tell you you were this great? Or have you coem to that conclusion all on your own?


You won't have problems????? You're 18 and you've been with a girl for three days your whole life. Like I've said, you don't have one fucking clue how life and relationships work. I've had about a million times the experience you have and I would say I still only have about one fucking clue how life and relationships work. I've had flings, one day things, multiple short relationships, a 9 month relationship, been dumped, dumped, mutual break up, bad break ups, clean break ups, problems with ex/girlfriends at school because of school......... I think I know a tad bit more about this than you do. And I still know very little. A lot of things in life are simple Nelson. This is not one of them. And it certainly won't be for you.



"Not quite. First, I talk about myself because there's anything in this world I know better than myself. Second, I'm pretty rationally closed to others in my common life, eventhough I'm somewhat emotionally open."

Bad idea. If you're trying to impress a girl (or a guy for that matter, just as a friend), never start with yourself. Never.



"Pretty much. But with you are friend with someone and you have lots of fun with her, Love is likely..."

ONLY if it is not forced.





Thed... Congragulations on keeping your marriage together. Good work man, keep it up. And good luck to you.

Where did you get your ego?! Man, speaking about arrogance.

Nelson is only 18 yes. He has to get some more life experience yes. So what? Looking at the threads which have been started lately about the subject: Love and being dumped /or not, and so on, I think Nelson has the right to make this thread in his own words and in the way he feels is right for him to do so. Sure, he feels terrible, isn't that logical? Do you people hold all the answers to life/love? Well, then congratulations and be sure you make money out of it or write a book or something. Whatever.:rolleyes:

Nelson, problems do come, in every life-time and it is a "good" thing. That's where you get your life experience from. Dealing with the problems which come on your way. Now you sound a little ignorant...


Thed, best wishes to you and your family... :)

Banshee:

"Where did you get your ego?! Man, speaking about arrogance. "

Tyler is an extremely intelligent and attractive man. He's simply having a hard time handling it, and needs to learn false modesty. :)

Thed: Wow, congratulations on maintaining a marriage through all that. Best of luck to you and yours!

"Where did you get your ego?! Man, speaking about arrogance."

I have an ego and I'm not afraid to admitt it. However, I certainly realize that I know about a millionth of what there is to know about love and life. Nelson seems to think he knows everything, or at least everything important. I have no problem with Nelson stating his feelings on love and life. But when he starts saying that he will never have problems, knows all about love (and Love), understands romance and relationships through a single 3 day experience..... You see where Im going?


"Do you people hold all the answers to life/love?"

No. Did you read my post? I take it you didn't. So I'll just quote myself for you: "I've had about a million times the experience you have and I would say I still only have about one fucking clue how life and relationships work...I think I know a tad bit more about this than you do. And I still know very little." Where in that did you get the idea that I believe I hold all the answers? Was it where I said 'I still know very little'? Or was it where I said 'I still only have about one fucking clue how life and relationships work'? Where?


And allow me to paraphrase a little philosophy; The first sign of an ego, is when one denies an ego.



"Tyler is an extremely intelligent and attractive man. He's simply having a hard time handling it, and needs to learn false modesty."

Thanks Xev! Haha!

Did you read my post? I take it you didn't

Oh yes I did! I read you whole post. It was more about your general posting. Did you read my post? I'll qoute it for you:Nelson, problems do come, in every life-time and it is a "good" thing. That's where you get your life experience from. Dealing with the problems which come on your way. Now you sound a little ignorant...

And that is as far as I go here. Life has its way of presenting itself on everyone and every single person gets to deal with difficulties on their way. The way you deal with them make your life experience. And it is a rollercoaster, sometimes...And it is like a warm Summer breeze, sometimes...

"Oh yes I did! I read you whole post. It was more about your general posting. Did you read my post? I'll qoute it for you:"

Impossible. For if you had, it's onlylogical you would have noticed the many points where I said I am far from knowing all the answers and actually know very little. Right?

Banshee,

Nelson, problems do come, in every life-time and it is a "good" thing. That's where you get your life experience from. Dealing with the problems which come on your way.

I know that... that's why I'm thankful...

Tyler,

But when he starts saying that he will never have problems, knows all about love (and Love), understands romance and relationships through a single 3 day experience..... You see where Im going?

Do you want evidence...? :D

Love,
Nelson

"Do you want evidence...?"

I'd prefer if you calmed your fucking ego down. But neither is going to happen, so why ask?

Tyler,

he will never have problems

Hope... What is arrogant in that?

knows all about love (and Love)

Have you ever read anything I've ever written...?

understands romance and relationships through a single 3 day experience

Did you read my "Ten Advices for a Long Lasting Relationship" (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6462&highlight=Advices)?

Love,
Nelson

Nelson, you wrote something about advice for long-lasting relationships. My question: have you ever had a long-lasting relationship?

'Hope... What is arrogant in that?"

I will never have a problem is arrogant through and through. It is suggesting that you believe your life in relationships will play out perfectly. Any one with an eigth of a brain can tell you that's a completely ignorant, arrogant and incorrect comment.


"Have you ever read anything I've ever written...?"

You believe you know everything about love and Love. I believe you know less than me. Which is shit all to begin with. If I said I know absolutely everything about Nietzsche (a philosopher I have studied in depth), would you consider me arrogant? I hope so.


"Did you read my "Ten Advices for a Long Lasting Relationship"?"

Do you want my critique? Here it is:




First two for men/women are correct.

"Allways share your feelings with her. If she doesn't share with you, ask her to do so."

Wrong. Sharing feelings has it's time and place. A lot of people in relationships are looking for an escape from things and find the other person as a place of relaxation as well as comfort. Never, ever, force someone to share their feelings, they will not be honest. And saying your feelings all the times will seem arrogant.


".Don't hold her. Don't be attached. If you lose her up she will feel that you trust her, you have confidence in yourself, and she will be more comfortable."

I don't know what lose her up means.


"Don't be afraid of making mistakes. Anyone is perfect. She'll forgive you if you do a mistake and apologize to her (in some cases, she will probably even forgive you without necessity of apology. But it is a good idea, anyways...)"

What kind of mistake are you talking about there? Anyway, I think you meant - No one is perfect.



"Be a child again..."

Nope. With some women yes. Others will jsut laugh at you. If you are a child at heart, then doing this is just the same as 'being yourself'. Since I was about 9 adults have told me I'm very mature for my age. By nature, I act more adult than child. So should I contradict being myself to be a child? No.


"Love her..."

Um. Only if you do. This makes no sense. Isn't this a list of advice for people who are in love?


" Just live the present without worring about the future..."

For the most part I agree with this. Though, those who are never mindful of the future often find themselves repeating the past.



Nelson, like I've said I've had upteenmillion times more experience than you. I do not consider myself qualified to be giving advise to most people on relationships. You better fucking believe I don't consider you, who has never had a relationship last half a week, anywhere close to the realm that is within shooting distance of a dimension that is somewhat close to the planet that is near the area of people qualified to give advise on relationships.

My advice: Forget all that crap and just be yourself. If she's the one for you, she'll love that about you. This has never worked for me, but I think that's the way it should be at least.

Adam,

Nelson, you wrote something about advice for long-lasting relationships. My question: have you ever had a long-lasting relationship?

I discovered all my mistakes from my last relationship and fixed them...


Tyler,

I will never have a problem is arrogant through and through. It is suggesting that you believe your life in relationships will play out perfectly. Any one with an eigth of a brain can tell you that's a completely ignorant, arrogant and incorrect comment.

Hope is humble... not arrogant...

You believe you know everything about love and Love. I believe you know less than me. Which is shit all to begin with. If I said I know absolutely everything about Nietzsche (a philosopher I have studied in depth), would you consider me arrogant? I hope so.

I have to test my ideas first...
But let's see who really knows It...

Wrong. Sharing feelings has it's time and place. A lot of people in relationships are looking for an escape from things and find the other person as a place of relaxation as well as comfort. Never, ever, force someone to share their feelings, they will not be honest. And saying your feelings all the times will seem arrogant.

Respect solve the problem...
And I didn't say to force... I said that both people must be always opened and honest with each other. If you don't know what the other is feeling and thinking, you might make assumptions, get expectations and than feeling hurt and blaming it all on your partner. But there's only you to blame on this situation. It's important to make clear what both people is really thinking and feeling and all the expectations of both. In this way, you don't get hurt.

I don't know what lose her up means.
If you are attached to a girl, you should lose up. I wrote this mainly to Asguard... he seemed pretty attached (and still seems...).

What kind of mistake are you talking about there? Anyway, I think you meant - No one is perfect.

Any kind of mistake...
Yes. That's what I meant.

Nope. With some women yes. Others will jsut laugh at you. If you are a child at heart, then doing this is just the same as 'being yourself'. Since I was about 9 adults have told me I'm very mature for my age. By nature, I act more adult than child. So should I contradict being myself to be a child? No.

I meant all the qualities of children: honesty, simplicity, humility, kindness, unworriness (is that a word? :p ), etc...
And, of course, to have fun. :)

Um. Only if you do. This makes no sense. Isn't this a list of advice for people who are in love?

In other words: Just Love her. Don't try to give reasons for your Love. love is simpler than that. That's the implicit meaning...

For the most part I agree with this. Though, those who are never mindful of the future often find themselves repeating the past.

Change bad habits is always a good idea...

Nelson, like I've said I've had upteenmillion times more experience than you. I do not consider myself qualified to be giving advise to most people on relationships. You better fucking believe I don't consider you, who has never had a relationship last half a week, anywhere close to the realm that is within shooting distance of a dimension that is somewhat close to the planet that is near the area of people qualified to give advise on relationships.

And I am arrogant... :rolleyes:

"I discovered all my mistakes from my last relationship and fixed them..."

This is arrogance. Thinking that you can fix every mistake in 3 days worth of experience. It's also just plain stupid.


"Hope is humble... not arrogant..."

Did you say 'I hope I will enver have problems' or 'I will never have problems'? Moron.



"I have to test my ideas first...
But let's see who really knows It..."

Yes, you ahve to test things. And 3 days is, like I've said, 1/1,000,000,000 of the experience you need.



"Respect solve the problem...
And I didn't say to force... I said that both people must be always opened and honest with each other. If you don't know what the other is feeling and thinking, you might make assumptions, get expectations and than feeling hurt and blaming it all on your partner. But there's only you to blame on this situation. It's important to make clear what both people is really thinking and feeling and all the expectations of both. In this way, you don't get hurt."

A successful relationships will have both people open with each other. True.



"If you are attached to a girl, you should lose up."

Get more control of the language. I think you might mean 'loosen up'. Lose up means nothing.



"I meant all the qualities of children: honesty, simplicity, humility, kindness, unworriness (is that a word?)"

Children tend to lie a fair amount now adays. They just aren't good at it. Kindness? I was something of a bully for a couple years when I was a kid. So were many, many other kids I knew. Unworiness? I had a MASSIVE conscience until I was about 11. And no, unworiness is not a word.



"In other words: Just Love her. Don't try to give reasons for your Love. love is simpler than that. That's the implicit meaning..."

Trying to rationalize love is not a good idea. It can be done, but it's most often useless.


"And I am arrogant..."

Hows about we find out.

I don't know what lose her up means.

I could show you, Tyler.....

If you are attached to a girl, you should lose up.

*Xev chortles*

Okay, okay okay, 'fess up Nelson, you did that on purpose!

WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyhow.....

I meant all the qualities of children: honesty, simplicity, humility, kindness, unworriness (is that a word? ), etc...

You don't spend much time around children, do you Nelson? :confused:

In any case, those still aren't great ideas for a long-lasting relationship.

I discovered all my mistakes from my last relationship and fixed them...

Uh-huh.

I'll repeat the question:

Have you ever had a long-lasting relationship? What qualifies you as 'relationships advisor to Sciforums'?

I'm tired of your misunderstandings... good bye...

Nelson, I don't go into everything what's written down in the last replies. I think this is a good advice, posted by Adam:

My advice: Forget all that crap and just be yourself. If she's the one for you, she'll love that about you. This has never worked for me, but I think that's the way it should be at least.

He is right. :) Just be yourself, that's enough.

Stop defending yourself, otherwise you will be busy till tomorrow, at the least.

Good luck to you... :)

Banshee,

That's what I'm trying to do... :(
I'm very funny... but I lost it...
I forgot how to be funny. I just can't do it...
I have to get the habit again. I'm doing it...
I got a subscription in one of those sites of humour and they give me at least three jokes a week :)
Now, I'm doing and saying funny things much more often than before... the only difficulty is the English...

Oh well... I hope I get to be funny again...

Love,
Nelson