Wow. HAMAS is definitely ready to be a real live government...now all they need is blood. I've included some terrorist testimonies from the same site. Geoff http://www.pmw.org.il/Latest bulletins new.htm#b140206 Hamas Video: We will drink the blood of the Jews By Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook - February 14, 2006 The Hamas website this week presented the parting video messages of two Hamas suicide terrorists. One message was for Jews, whose blood Hamas promises to drink until Jews "leave the Muslim countries," and the second to a mother, as she helps dress her son for battle prior to his suicide terror mission. "My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but Allah, we will chase you everywhere! We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no blood better than the blood of Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood. We will not leave until you leave the Muslim countries." [They know this? How? What makes them so sure? Surely he would have said "Israelis" if he meant that. Couldn't be a religious thing, could it? - Geoff] "I dedicate this wedding [i.e. death for Allah] to all of those who have chosen Allah as their goal, the Quran as their constitution and the Prophet [Muhammad] as their role model. Jihad is the only way to liberate Palestine - all of Palestine - from the impurity of the Jews." To see the vid, click here: http://www.pmw.org.il/asx/PMW_Hamas_suicide.asx
Here is some more balance to this Jewish sciforums member's obvious racism towards Arabs , familiarize your selves with the Jewish terrorist organisation Kach . Kach whose ideal is to cleanse all of Isreal of non-Jews . Here is an incident these terrirists are responsible for . Dr Baruch Goldstein who took a hypocratic oath to save life went on a killing spree in Feb 1994 killing 44 Palestinian worshipers in a Mosque . He was assisted by 2 other Jewish squatters all 3 belonged to a racist /anti-semitic organization called Kach .He was feted as hero by his father and a patriot he has become a hero among Israel's racist /anti-semitic /right-wing extremists. Kach extremists set up a tombstone for him which read: "Here lies the saint, Dr. Baruch Kappel Goldstein, blessed be the memory of the righteous and holy man, may the Lord avenge his blood, who devoted his soul to the Jews, Jewish religion and Jewish land. His hands are innocent and his heart is pure. He was killed as a martyr of God on the 14th of Adar, Purim, in the year 5754."
It's funny, I didn't realise that in order to think freely you had to be a member of the Jewish faith. Must've missed that meeting. I'll watch the vid in a bit, about to eat.
Hey Brian, here's a hint for you......most people in these forums aren't really pro-jewish or anti-arab or whatever moniker you would like to asscribe to them. Most people here see the dangers of a primitive dogma that restricts free thought and progress and nowhere else is this prevalent in the modern world than "the religion of Peace", which promotes medieval belief systems and thinking. Also, this being a SCIENCE messageboard, I would argue that most people visiting these forums are indifferent [even suspicious] of overt religiosity and those people like you who believe strongly in such superstitions. So yeah, one doesn't have to be "pro-jewish" or "anti-arab" to despise the primitive and fascist ideology of Islam. Afterall, when one religion is so evidently the cause for so much violence and death in the world today, no amount of propaganda and ridiculous conspiracy theories about a zionist world order is going to change popular opinion about an issue that is in the news almost on a daily basis [see almost daily suicide bombings and the cold-blooded murders of those who aren't muslim BY muslims i.e. Thailand, India (Kashmir), Sudan, Phillipines, etc etc the list goes on forever]. Oh and thanks for pointing out that Palestinians are in fact Arabs - further proving that any ridiculous notions of a distinct "Palestinian Culture" or language are in fact false.
Brian, Brian, Brian. You just can't let it go, can you? Can't you see that your hatred has blinded you? The vile anti-Semitism (yes, hatred of Jews, because that's what it means) is eating at you such that you cannot even comment soberly on something like this. Why bring a shitbag like Goldstein into it? In your sick mind does he somehow counterbalance that a scumbag just promised to drink the blood of Jews? I mean, aren't you human? Can't you just comment that this is a particularly vile piece of shit, perhaps even remarking on the irony of the statement? In case you fail to see it, I'll elaborate: It is ironic because blood libel is a popular anti-Semitic myth among arabs. And lo and behold, here they are, proclaiming to actually drink Jewish blood themselves (or at least wanting to)!
Hmmm, I was gonna write something cool but it looks like Indymaestro and funkstar beat me to it. Well said. Anyway, I watched the video. Yeah, they're really gunning for a position in the international community. "Believe in what we say or we'll kill you" kind of attitude gets you far in the 21st century. People with this mindset are still stuck in centuries gone.
Besides in our ability to spell "terrorists", another way in which Brian and I differ is that I know Kach is composed of extremists rather than the official government, while Hamas IS the official government of Palestine. Geoff
Hey, if "terr'ists" is good enough for GWB, then it's good enough for me too. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! As for comparing the Israeli government vs the Palestinian one, all I have to say is: Benjamin NuttyYahoo. - N
Benjamin Netanyahu doesn't think Israelis should kill all the Palestinians and drink their blood; or have I just missed that press release? He also doesn't arrange for suicide bombers. In short, he's not an aggressor. I might reiterate: Kach is a radical terrorist organization. Hamas has all that and is a government. Silly Kachers. Geoff
8 posts on sciforums and he knows scoforums inside out , here some advice most on sciforums are anti - Arab , look up Geoffs , kiwi , Vincent , Ritri , aaa profiles do a search on their thraeds and then come back and tell me that , and I will give you another anti-Arab 5 posters to look up . Who here has ever claimed the Palestinians were distinct ? I have always said Palestinians were a mixture of all peoples who have conquered and stayed in Palestine . And yes the Arabs are indigenous to the mideast , Jews in Israel bar the Sephardic are converts from Europe . I am pro Semitic I am for the liberation of the Arabs . Those who claim to be Jews are in fact converts . I dont give a Fuck , as far as I am concerned Israel created these groups , and through Israels racist agenda and mistreatment of Palestinians this is the end result . If Israel did not exist HAMAS would not exist ! I hope Hamas extends its rule all over the region of Palestine within the borders prior to 1948 . Let me guess Palestinians did not exist until after 1967 . What you dont want to acknowledge is that Sharon the leader of Israel is also a war criminal who under the Universal Jurisdiction of the International criminal court Belgioun sought his extradition to face a trial . While HAMAS is a democratically elected goverment . My Father served in the British army 1945 to 1948 he spent 2 years in Palestine , to this day he says this " the Jews were the terrorists then , and Jews are the terrorist today " .
I haven't watched the video due to bandwidth issues, but I'm curious as to how recent these statements are. Now that they're an official figure I hope Hamas won't be foolish enough to continue with their old stance. It's a religion, Foley. If they convert, they are Jewish. Just like anyone who converts to Islam is a Muslim, to Buddhism a Buddhist, etc. Nothing dodgy about it.
Hell, we know that. I'd like you to point out a world leader that is not a war criminal. The list might be a tad shorter. HAMAS might well be a democratically elected government, but so were the Nazi's in the early 1930's. Don't make anything they did right. Yeah why not, I was gonna go on about dancing teddy bears practicing safe sex but oh well.
Again: I'm not anti-Arab, you idiot. I have friends who are Arabic. Dig your head out of your arse. [/quote]I dont give a Fuck , as far as I am concerned Israel created these groups , and through Israels racist agenda and mistreatment of Palestinians this is the end result . If Israel did not exist HAMAS would not exist ! I hope Hamas extends its rule all over the region of Palestine within the borders prior to 1948 .[/quote] And if the inhabitants of the Palestinian region, and the countries around it, hadn't attacked them, massacred settlers and villages and demanded they be subjected to the yoke of dhimmitude long before Israel was created, Israel wouldn't exist either. Or do the Jewish massacres of 1929 count as "anticipation attacks"? And the steady extirpation of Jews in other ME countries? Get that through your thick skull. Boo bloody hoo. I know people who served over there too, and they tell me that with what's gone on since, Britain was wrong to try and suppress the Israelis - "on the wrong bloody side, we were" they tell me. Does the bunker have cable or sat TV? Geoff
I beg your fucking pardon? Those who claim to be Jews are in fact JEWS, you pathetic arse. But thanks for posting - I think everyone should be aware of the way that the term "revert" is used in islam. The implication, you see, is that everyone is born islamic and then "converts" to another religion. So Jews then, would be "converts"; and so would all Christians and everything else. If they became islamic, they would be called "reverts" in islam. Brian, your post above strongly indicates that you've been trolling as a secular but are in fact muslim. Would you care to comment on that? I have no objection to you being whatever you like (save, perhaps, a Nazi or an islamofascist) but your lack of candor is disturbing. However, I'm not surprised you have no objection to the blood libel. Geoff
Thanks , simply a religion not a race just a group of people who think they are real Jews as spoken of in the Bible , and who have gone on to displace some several million Palestinians to accomadate their fantasy . Don’t make excuses , on one hand you denounce HAMAS because of their record of Liberation attacks on Israel and as being unfit to hold office and here on the other hand you have no problems with a mass murderer and provocateur being in power . Of course , denying another races legitimacy is what racism is , I expected this . Overall you are just a racist , whose current binge is Arabs , that’s evidenced by your %100 posting fascination about Arabs/Palestinians . Israel immediately invaded the Palestinian areas which had been partitioned by the UN and Arab armies immediately mobilized to protect Palestinians who were being teerorized by acts of mass murder such as Deir Yassin into flight . By 1929 you had 35 years of steady Jewish squatter immigration into Palestine and increasing each year , by this time Jews were organizing terrorist bands and carrying out attacks and ambushes on Palestinians . These 20+ Jews who died in the 1929 attacks were symptomatic of Palestinian frustration by Zionist terror attacks and usurpation of their indigenous lands . Bullshit !!! I know what my father said , and I have been to Britain 4 times over the years to meet relatives and I have met in the 1980’s many who served in Palestine they all concur . British soldiers especially one officer related to me at the time of the King David attack that Arabs were to be trusted not Jews as the Arabs were not attacking British military stations . In fact British soldiers rioted killing 4 Jewish squatters in retaliation for the lynching of 2 soldoers whose bodies were strung up in an orange grove . Cowardly Zionist fucks would fill condoms full of nitro-glycerine and hang them inside toilet cisterns so British soldiers would be killed when flushing the toilet . The fact that my Father and other British soldiers fought saving Jews from gas chambers could of elicted some respect from you but it really means fuck all to you , all that matters is your beloved home land Eretz Israel . No they are not they are a religious group which consist of many different races , the Ethiopian Jews are blackskinned and the Jews of Europe are in fact of Khazarist/Turkish origin they are fake Jews . The real Jews of the Bible are to be found in the Palestinians bloodline , modern Palestinians are every race , tribe that settled into Palestine . In my opinion Jesus should be referred to as a Palestinian martyr . I couldn’t give a Fuck what you thought I was , to me you are simply a pig ignorant Jewish racist who sanctimoniously defends his racist creed on sciforums . To me you are shit in a brown paper bag . As long as blood libel means killing racist Zionists then by all means gush forward !
Hard to say why you get off on being wrong so often. I don't post about Arabs. I've posted about religion, and about Hamas, and about Israel, and Iran, but none of those things translates into Arabs. You're the only guy here who seems to be really fascinated with the subject. I might ask if you're a supremacist of some kind, but I think I know already. Proof? When are you even talking about? Again - proof. And what - they're squatters now? Not immigrants? What immigration? 35 years? Come on. Asswipe, I'm a citizen of the Empire, and my relatives - about ten of them - also fought for England and a few other Empire nations during that war. As a matter of fact, they fought people like you, so you'll excuse me if I don't give you your traditional stiff-arm salute during this debate, since my grandfathers and uncles and all the rest did the same bloody job and got the fucking point about it. Here's another interesting little tidbit: my cousin was a peacekeeper in Egypt and dated an Egyptian girl in years gone by. Her family didn't approve. In fact, they really didn't approve, I guess, since they cut off her fucking head and tossed it into the barracks one fine evening to make a point about dating the local women. I wonder what made them think women were chattel, but I bet it has something to do with Q 4: 11 and Q 4: 34. Guess that makes me up one on you, you pathetic git: but then everyone not currently huddled in their personal bomb shelter making aluminum hats for their imaginary legions of followers is probably also one up on you. So don't beg for respect from me and, once again: I'm not Israeli. Un-huh. And you read this where? Mein Kampf? Wow - first you're not a political observer, then you're not a population biologist. One wonders where your ignorance ends and knowledge begins. Don't get mad, Brian. But out of curiousity, I noticed you threw the word "Jewish" at me in your bile just above. Tell, me, Brian: do you consider that an insult? (And why would that be?) Well, I don't, biatch. I noticed you lumped in "pig" with it; another rare insult in Western society, don't you think? Really don't need a comment here. Speaks for itself, coupled with the "Jewish" comment above. Geoff
100% of your posts concern Arabs , however you wish to break it up into Iran , Palestine , Israle , Hamas , Islam or poking fun at Arabs . You are fixiated on the mideast that everything you post leads back to denigrating the Arab culture . No you are incorrect , devil inside implied that and a quick study of my thread history showed of 180+ threads created by me 17 concerned the Mideast that’s 9% hardly fascination as compared to your 100% . 1948 ! Israeli squatters immediately advanced on Palestinian areas . A Sorry I have to get used to the proper term for Israeli land thieves , that’s squatters and that was since 1948. As for the immigration which began in 1894 with Zionist settlements within Palestine and was controlled by Britain until Zionists became to entrenched and began a terror campaign . Asswipe ? That’s not an English term and “I'm a citizen of the Empire” , huh ! Empire ? You are an Indian . If bullshit was music , you would be a symphony . You are bullshit artist I don’t believe a word you typed . It’s the truth , what consists of Jews are a polygot of different races , they are nothing more than a religious sect . Thew ancient Hebrews no longer exist as a distinct culture as they have blended into what we today know as the Palestinians . I never said you were an Israeli , I said you were Jewish .
Again - where are these posts? You've never been able to answer that in your 180+ threads. What's wrong? Finger broken from nostril inspection? Devil was right. And I've commented in other areas - evolution being one such area. I don't have time to post on everything, since I have a job and a family and don't live in a bunker, Brian. Besides, this subject is so much more interesting than biology, frankly. And also, I like bothering you. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! The massacres occurred prior to then. Thanks for proving my point. Again, after the massacres. Thanks again. Again you miss. How can a real Aussie be so dumb? You've never borrowed expressions from anyone? Christ almighty. Gasp! I must be a Christian then! You've been wrong before: go forth and be wrong about this too. Just don't be fruitful or multiply. Well that didn't sound Hitlerian at all. Not at all. Actually, you've said several times I was an Israeli. Not that either, but thanks for the compliment. Geoff
ALERT! ALERT! New member with 9 posts. Looks like a hitman to me. You got that right. Say religion and they attack just like they were trained to. Secular guys are so easy to train. You noticed that about Judaism also huh? Propaganda huh? Keep chanting it. The lemmings will believe you. Is there or is there not an organization called "Zionists"? Is there or is there not an organization called "PNAC - Project for a New American Century"? Are there or are there not a group of people called "Neo Cons"? Is the stated purpose of the Neo cons loyalty to Israel? Anwer those factual questions, then we can move on to destroying the rest of your misinformation.
yes the countries with the free press are the ones being misled. While the state run press is telling the absolute truth. Logically it would trigger a light bulb that perhaps the state run pro kill the jews media that is far more bias obviously means unfair, and will say anything to create a point. Hence it is more likely to be false seeing how it the government or radicals produce it for their own agenda. It seems pretty clear that the middle east is full of sheep. They go out of their way to obey and believe everything that they are fed. Unless of course the jews control every media outlet in the west because they have those kind of numbers. Which I am sure with all the racist minds will immediately come back with jews own everything. i thought this was funny "factual questions"
