I hate judgmental ppl. They look and make a decision about you. That happens to me a lot. Does it happen to anyone else?

Aw, you're probably just on the rag.

I cannot really judge others unless they do something to me. To just look at someone and judge them like on TV or walking down the street would be stupid to do for to know someone you must talk with them and get to know them. Sometimes I do slip up like when a person is shown doing something wrong or hurting someone like in those COPS TV series and would like to see them put away for a long time after being given a court date.

I judge people a lot. I look at people and immediately make judgments and presumptions. But I don't let my demeanor reflect it. After all, I know I can easily be proven wrong.

But overall, I think judging people is a useful thing, keeping in mind that you don't cling to your initial ideas of the person. Otherwise, why would be hardwired to judge?

If you were lost in a city and saw a gang of black people, would you be inclined to ask them for directions? Not unless you're retarded or incredibly naive. If you don't want to ask this particular group of people for directions, it's because you're a judgmental person. And there's nothing wrong with this. In fact, this is an example of how prejudice is a good thing.

The problem with prejudice arises when people cling to stereotypes and let it influence their decisions in irrational ways.

I only judge big guys with girlfriends. I often think they are just pea-brain jerks. Which usually turns out to be so, but not quite always........

I've been meeting a lot of cool guys lately. They are very friendly and intelligent. But most of those don't have girlfriends. I wonder why....... :rolleyes:

I often judge people very quickly, but I very rarely take that judgement seriously. I think of it more as a game, if I want to really judge someone, I'll get to know them first.

Truthseeker:

I only judge big guys with girlfriends. I often think they are just pea-brain jerks.
Because you're a little guy with no girlfriend.
But, but, I love you Truthseker, I didn't' mean to judge!

Which remainds me, CosmicMoron:


I cannot really judge others unless they do something to me. .
Bullshit.

We all judge- people, things, non-things. Its the very meaning of being conscient.
You cant help but judge- its how you know who you are, and what that ego's predilections are.

Geodisic:

I think of it more as a game, if I want to really judge someone, I'll get to know them first.
Didn't you decide you wanted to know them first??
That itself required judgment.

How else would you feel you wanted to know them first?
By judging it.
QED.

Gendanken,

I think that what is meant by 'judgemental' in this thread is not judging people per se. Because we all must judge. It is the nature of life. You are quite right about that.

What they're talking about is judging too quickly. And to a large part judging on appearances or other arbitrary signs alone.

Sometimes we must judge quickly. We don't have a choice. Even at first glance we must judge. And this judgement does lend itself to any further judgements that may follow.

First impressions and all that.

But, there are those who are extremely judgmental. Quick to decide and will never change their minds regardless of the any further evidence that may surface.

Wouldn't you say that there is an extreme that is possible in this? That there can be an unhealthy extreme?

This brings to mind a line from Pink Floyd's The Wall.

"Are there any QUEERS in the audience tonight?
Get 'em up against the wall.
There's one in the spotlight! He don't look right to ME!
Get him up against the wall!
And that one looks JEWISH! And that one's a COON!
Who let all this riffraff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint!
And that one's got SPOTS!
If I had MY WAY... I'd have all of them SHOT!"

Invert Nexus:

What they're talking about is judging too quickly. And to a large part judging on appearances or other arbitrary signs alone.

No, I actually think people like Cosmictraveler, say, feed themselves on their virtues.
They like telling themselves they are fair, open minded, 'new age'.

You know, the tiresome prick at the coffeshop who loves all the races equally and thinks women should drive monster trucks becuase "we're all equal".


Because we all must judge. It is the nature of life
Because life= consciouness.
Yup.

Yeah. I'll agree with you on that. CosmicTraveler is in love with the sound of such things. And his post, of all the posts in this thread, would be what you were talking against.

CosmicTraveler is in love with the sound of such things.

But hey. At least he didn't copy and paste a huge article instead of speaking his own mind for a change.

CosmicTraveler is in love with the sound of such things.
I bet he masturbates to UNICEF.

Come on Cosmicmunch, show yourself. This place bores.

I bet he masturbates to UNICEF.

Hell. Who doesn't? Those pot-bellied African kids are sexxxy. Triple XXX intended, baby, Yeah!

Gasp!

How dare you??! Ridiculing ashy Ethiopes in the presence of such a loving soul??!
Bet they have worms, but so what??!
This is sacrilege.

Poor Cosmicmucus.

I especially like it when they let flies crawl all over their eyeballs.
Rowr.

Although, breaking the mood a moment, I must admit to getting a bit emotional over some picture of a dying ethiopian that Sargentlard posted in his picture thread a long time ago. You remember the one? It was the one where you talked about that film where they were slicing open up a dog's eyeball.

I mean. I know. It's just some starving kid that, if he survived, would probably grow up to be some fucking moron, but still. Did that picture affect you at all, Gendanken? I know that you felt no sympathy for the kids in Waco that died from the cyanide gas that the cs powder (or whatever it was) put off when it burned and their spines were all twisted because of the convulsions even before the fire and smoke got to them.

. Did that picture affect you at all, Gendanken?

Not at all.
There are a billion others just like him with a million more on the way.
They showed you his picutre, but did not include his 10 brothers and sisters just as filthy and diseased with his mother pregnant in the middle.

They can't afford to be cruel to those they should be- like the rich whose money they need and envy- so they're cruel to those they can.
Like their own children, neighbors, and the animals.

You show me a cow, tied up for days without food and beaten by this idiot's mother or father, and I'll show you sympathy.


I know that you felt no sympathy for the kids in Waco that died from the cyanide gas that the cs powder (or whatever it was) put off when it burned and their spines were all twisted because of the convulsions even before the fire and smoke got to them.
Why are you describing it all over again?
I know how they died.

Not at all.
There are a billion others just like him with a million more on the way.

Yeah. I also think of a documentary I saw on the orphaned street children in North Korea. They're treated like dogs. Eating scraps of food out of the filthy mud.

I know. I know. These things are just a natural state of being. Nature is cruel and for most animals in the world dying with your intestines being pulled out of you and gulped down whole is the norm.
But I am a softy for this shit sometimes.
Especially kids.
I think it's because kids are untapped potential. They could be anything. You know?
But, that's wishful thinking. Those kids in Waco would likely grow up to be either religious nuts like their parents or fucked up in the head from their wacky upbringing. But, maybe, just maybe, one or two of them might have escaped the cycle of moronity and become something great. Who knows?

But, as you say, there's a million more where they came from.
Life's hard.
Hard old life.
What a bitch.


You show me a cow, tied up for days without food and beaten by this idiot's mother or father, and I'll show you sympathy.

Temple Grandin anyone?

Yeah. I understand what you're saying. But, I think that's part of it. I think that when humans are reduced to such low states. So near to death. Or dead. That their status as animals becomes apparent.

To me, that ethiopian laying in the straw dying was like some starved puppy. He was an animal. And those kids in Waco were just pieces of meat. Animal meat.


Why are you describing it all over again?
I know how they died.

For any other who might read this.

Know what I thought of when I saw the pictures of those kids with their contorted backs?
My brother's family had a salamander. A little tiny thing. About 3-4 inches long. It would run around in the little tank they had that just a little bit of water in it to keep it moist. Well, they were in the process of moving and they neglected to keep the tank moist and when the day came to move the tank I looked in and saw the poor little bastard curled back on itself. It's head back. Its tail up. Its toes outstretched. Dry as a bone. The poor little thing's death must have been excruciating. It's pose was painful to even look at.

I felt the same thing when I saw the pictures of those kids. But the kids have larger brains with which to appreciate the pain they were experiencing.

God. Death by cyanide. Horrid. Jim Jones was a smart man when he took the bullet in the head rather than drinking his own kool-aid.

Because you're a little guy with no girlfriend.
I judged them when I had a girlfriend as well. What pisses me off is the fact that those girls often go out with pea-brain jerks believing they can change them. It's stupid, they just reward their boyfriend's stupidity. They simply condition them, reinforcing their behaviour. That is so widely spread that our culture demands man to be stupid jackasses, who were supposed to take control over their girlfriends and keep spreading the unjustice of this stupid sytem. It is part of our culture, and it pisses me off when girls don't see that behind the jerks who control this planet and all the oil barons are girls that are trying to influence them by being with them but finish by only reinforcing their behaviour. :bugeye:

Aw, you're probably just on the rag.
You're quite wrong, I'm a guy

Truthseeker,

Uh oh. Here we go again.
Those jerks. What pea-brained jackasses.
The injustice of their stupid system.


it pisses me off when girls don't see that behind the jerks who control this planet and all the oil barons are girls that are trying to influence them by being with them but finish by only reinforcing their behaviour.

So it's all about the oil barons then?
Damn you, Rockefeller!!!!!!

Seriously. Does it ever piss you off enough to stop being a pussy?


Korrnrulz,


You're quite wrong, I'm a guy

Maybe you're bleeding from your asshole then?

I'll let you all play your games and just sit back and smile! I really can't get offended when just about everything said about me makes me laugh. Personally I do try to not judge anyone here because many just want to talk about nothing and no matter what anyone else might say, they always find fault with it. I think I enjoy posting what others say because they seem to put into words what I'm thinking better than I could write it myself. By giving others credit I try to show that I'm not alone in what I think and by acknowledging what others say by posting their remarks I feel it only substantiates what they and I think.

Uh oh. Here we go again.
Those jerks. What pea-brained jackasses.
The injustice of their stupid system.
No, not theirs. Yours.


So it's all about the oil barons then?
Damn you, Rockefeller!!!!!!
Not just them, but whoever screw people to get rich, really. Which is the norm in a selfish greed-based society. :bugeye:


Seriously. Does it ever piss you off enough to stop being a pussy?
Pussies don't get to become senators in universities. Much less challenging the government and raising awareness against all the bs and corruption within the government. :bugeye:

What have you done besides sitting down in front of your computer scratching yourself and trying desperately to make fun of people to compensate for your little....? :rolleyes:

I'm getting good at this.... :D

CosmicTraveler,


I'll let you all play your games and just sit back and smile!

How can you smile while Ethiopians are starving to death?!
Brutish monster!!


I think I enjoy posting what others say because they seem to put into words what I'm thinking better than I could write it myself.

People don't come here, or at least I don't come here, to read articles from secondary sources. I mean, sometimes they can be interesting and relevant, but what I'm looking for can only come straight from the horse's mouth.

How many people do you think read your articles?
Few, I imagine.


TruthSeeker,


No, not theirs. Yours.

You realize, of course, that all those were your words?
So, it's my system then? I must be one of those oil barons. Where's my yacht?

Seriously, dude, you do realize that this hackneyed argument about jerks getting the girls is simplistic at best and retarded at worst?
But, hey, go ahead and coddle yourself with the idea that it's all their fault. Not yours. No. Never yours.


Not just them, but whoever screw people to get rich, really. Which is the norm in a selfish greed-based society.

Society is based on greed only because humans as well as animals are based on greed.
What of the societies that weren't based on 'greed'? Were things better in the U.S.S.R.? Has there ever been a utopia that lasted more than 15 minutes?


Pussies don't get to become senators in universities. Much less challenging the government and raising awareness against all the bs and corruption within the government.

Actually, I thought that was the definition of pussy.
Could be wrong.


What have you done besides sitting down in front of your computer scratching yourself and trying desperately to make fun of people to compensate for your little....?

A little of this and a little of that.
I won't deny that I've wasted much potential in my life. But guess who I blame for that? Me.

And I don't really make fun of a lot of people. Just those of you who ask for it. I've seen your 'jerk' routine far too often for it to be cute anymore.

And, my cock is ENORMOUS!! Want a picture or it?


I'm getting good at this...

Get good enough at it, maybe you'll stop being a pussy and actually get some. Stranger things have happened.

my 2 cents:
I try not to say or do things that effect the people I know until I have enough information to make a accurate judgement of whether or not I like the person. that way if I think somene is an a-hole I still treat them like a friend until I know whether or not they really are.

Wish I was here earlier.

Truthseeker, you're not good at anything.
Jesus fucking christ, you and athelwulf have become quite obnoxiously audacious lately.
There's nothing worse than a worthless person assigning themself worth.
It just makes my skin crawl.

You'd almost be tolerable, and deserving of a less-than-week-long torturous execution, if you realised exactly how horrible you are as a human being.
But no, you want the wooly blanket wrapped around you in a hot stuffy room with the temperature rising at an extremely slow rate treatment.

So, it's my system then? I must be one of those oil barons. Where's my yacht?
Ha! The system doesn't produce only oil barons. 20% of the richest consume more than 80% of the world's resources, not only oil barons. That was a simple example of the whole jerky population.


Seriously, dude, you do realize that this hackneyed argument about jerks getting the girls is simplistic at best and retarded at worst?
Simplicity is most often the answer. Ever heard of Occam's Razor?


But, hey, go ahead and coddle yourself with the idea that it's all their fault. Not yours. No. Never yours.
Why should I think it is my fault? Watch TV. See what people like nowadays. What are girls looking for, bachelors? :rolleyes:

Art is a reflection of our culture. And after the 70s, culture died.


Society is based on greed only because humans as well as animals are based on greed.
Aha. So let us not change things. Whatever happened to evolution..... :rolleyes:


What of the societies that weren't based on 'greed'? Were things better in the U.S.S.R.? Has there ever been a utopia that lasted more than 15 minutes?
No, since there has never been a person competent enough to inspire people to create an "utopia".


Actually, I thought that was the definition of pussy.
Could be wrong.
Yes, great. I guess you prefer being a loser than a pussy..... :rolleyes:


And, my cock is ENORMOUS!! Want a picture or it?
Oh hell NO!!


Get good enough at it, maybe you'll stop being a pussy and actually get some. Stranger things have happened.
Ever wondered if it is important for me to "get" some?

Uga buga gaaahahhh guba gaba buga!!!!
Awwwww... how cute! The little neanderthal is babbling...... :D :D

Truthseeker,

Uh oh. Here we go again.
Those jerks. What pea-brained jackasses.
The injustice of their stupid system.



So it's all about the oil barons then?
Damn you, Rockefeller!!!!!!

Seriously. Does it ever piss you off enough to stop being a pussy?


Kornrulz,



Maybe you're bleeding from your asshole then?
Kiss my ass

Truthseeker,


Ha! The system doesn't produce only oil barons. 20% of the richest consume more than 80% of the world's resources, not only oil barons. That was a simple example of the whole jerky population.

Still don't see what it has to do with me. Except that I am inside the system. And yet. So are you.


Simplicity is most often the answer. Ever heard of Occam's Razor?

Yes. But, note that I said that it's simplistic at best. Things are not often at their best.


Why should I think it is my fault? Watch TV. See what people like nowadays. What are girls looking for, bachelors?

What the hell are you talking about?
And god forbid you should ever take responsiblity for your own life. There's so many people out there to blame. You can stay in blissful ignorance your whole life. And a virgin too.


Aha. So let us not change things. Whatever happened to evolution....

You mean survival of the fittest? Or survival of the pussiest?


Yes, great. I guess you prefer being a loser than a pussy....

Yes. I do.


Oh hell NO!!

Too late. I already sent it to you.


Ever wondered if it is important for me to "get" some?

Not really because it's pretty obvious that it is, seeing as how you're always pissing and moaning about it.


Kornrulz,


Kiss my ass

Not with all that blood oozing out of it.
(By the way, I'm just fucking with you. Although, if you're a korn fan I wouldn't be surprised if your asshole is bleeding. Uh oh. Was I just judgemental?)

Invert:

I know. I know. These things are just a natural state of being. Nature is cruel and for most animals in the world dying with your intestines being pulled out of you and gulped down whole is the norm.
But I am a softy for this shit sometimes.
Especially kids.
I think it's because kids are untapped potential. They could be anything. You know?

Yes, I know but.
*shrug*

You flash a pic of his pathetic little face on PBS and basblah! the Americans feel guilty, the whole godammned world mourns and empties out its pockets.
They send money to the kid's village, and the ignorance in it kills progress.
Its the reason why Third World countries remain Third World countries.

Yeah. I understand what you're saying. But, I think that's part of it. I think that when humans are reduced to such low states. So near to death. Or dead. That their status as animals becomes apparent.

Yeah.
Yet that strangely enough, you could point to the ribs on a starving cow and the ticks that's left it anemic and these people will look at you and wonder what's wrong.

But a human boy gets a nosebleed, and OH MY GOD! Where's the doctror?!
Fucking humans.

Truthseeker:

I judged them when I had a girlfriend as well. What pisses me off is the fact that those girls often go out with pea-brain jerks believing they can change them. It's stupid, they just reward their boyfriend's stupidity. They simply condition them, reinforcing their behaviour. That is so widely spread that our culture demands man to be stupid jackasses, who were supposed to take control over their girlfriends and keep spreading the unjustice of this stupid sytem. It is part of our culture, and it pisses me off when girls don't see that behind the jerks who control this planet and all the oil barons are girls that are trying to influence them by being with them but finish by only reinforcing their behaviour.
Know what, my lothario?

You'd have better luck getting laid if you quit obsessing on others that do when you don't.

Cato:

my 2 cents:
I try not to say or do things that effect the people I know until I have enough information to make a accurate judgement of whether or not I like the person. that way if I think somene is an a-hole I still treat them like a friend until I know whether or not they really are.
Because I'm so blah blah blah, and appropriate blah I don't blah blah blah.
Blah blah?
Blabooga blah.

Cosmictripe:

I'll let you all play your games and just sit back and smile! I really can't get offended when just about everything said about me makes me laugh. Personally I do try to not judge anyone here because many just want to talk about nothing and no matter what anyone else might say, they always find fault with it. I think I enjoy posting what others say because they seem to put into words what I'm thinking better than I could write it myself. By giving others credit I try to show that I'm not alone in what I think and by acknowledging what others say by posting their remarks I feel it only substantiates what they and I think

Come on, I have tons of fury to work off nowadays. What better way than to fuckwitcha?

Allright, then. No more picking on Comismoomoo, not in the mood anyway.

Gendanken,


Yet that strangely enough, you could point to the ribs on a starving cow and the ticks that's left it anemic and these people will look at you and wonder what's wrong.

I'm not so sure about that.
I think that people are always disturbed by pictures of starving cattle. In India, for example, where there's the stereotypical image of the starving cow wandering the streets immune from slaughter but still not being fed properly. That strikes a chord in most people that I've come across.
The same thing goes for most forms of animal cruelty. Most people don't think it's cool. they just aren't exposed to it often. This is why the mititant vegetarians do so well when they show cruel slaughterhouse practices on public access. Very few can look at these things without flinching.

It should come as no surprise that there is a link between animal cruelty and serial killers.

I think that the difference being that in animals we will 'put them out of their misery' while in humans we do anything to prolong that life. Regardless of whether it's a life of pain, or pleasure, or worth.

Messed up values? Surely. But, is it any better when it goes to the other extreme and human life loses all value? Look at the various regimes throughout the world where such was the case. Would you have this be the norm?

It's a delicate thing, this life.

I'm getting good at this....

Like, okay, I'm pissy today.

But I've been wondering for a while now: How come that I can't properly hate, detest, ignore, dislike etc. TruthSeeker?
There is something that stops me every time I feel like going at him. There is something about him that makes me react like a cat to a grasshopper after biting off its leg: in profound disinterest, I walk away.
I am passionately indifferent towards TruthSeeker. I never thought that one could be passionately indifferent. But he just makes it possible. How.

You're soft. You weren't adequately blooded as a child.

My parents used to prepare special pinjatas for me on my birthdays, I'd beat on them and beat on them, and when I felt that pop I'd tear my blindfold off just in time to see bruised and bloodied babies spill out of them onto the concrete floor.
At which point my parents would piss themselves laughing.

Over time I learned to hate those babies in that papier mache donkey. I blamed them for the lack of candy and the embarrassment I would feel when they would flop out onto the floor, razzing my expectations of candy.

It's for this reason I can't "pity" truthseeker. What would trigger pity in most simply adds on to my rage(the rage we all feel towards him) and makes it stronger.

I think that people are always disturbed by pictures of starving cattle.

Like hell they are. They are politely disturbed. Determined that they are concerned, but also determined that they are powerless.

And that the only power they could have is that of killing, but since that's not very nice, they'll rather let the animal suffer.

It is the casual, everyday maltreatment that I detest so much. When it would take so little to make a change -- but no.

Our neighbours have 3 cats. The youngest one has a cold, the oldest an eye infection, for months now. They have the cats sleep outside. It is winter here, sometimes -20°C.
The daughter of the family studies to be a veterinarian. She comes home only for weekends, and this is when the cats get to be in the house. Otherwise, they have to be out. She is studying to be a veterinarian and her own cats are ill, constantly.

This so subtle cruelty. As if it were carefully planned.

Still don't see what it has to do with me. Except that I am inside the system. And yet. So are you.
Am I?


Yes. But, note that I said that it's simplistic at best. Things are not often at their best.
What would be the best?


What the hell are you talking about?
And god forbid you should ever take responsiblity for your own life. There's so many people out there to blame. You can stay in blissful ignorance your whole life. And a virgin too.
Is that what you are doing?


You mean survival of the fittest? Or survival of the pussiest?
Of the wisest.


Not really because it's pretty obvious that it is, seeing as how you're always pissing and moaning about it.
The system is what upsets me. That should be quite apparent by now. Unless you want to use the straw man strategy.... :rolleyes:

You'd have better luck getting laid if you quit obsessing on others that do when you don't.
Blah, blah, blah, you just ignored the very first thing I said.... :rolleyes:

Like, okay, I'm pissy today.
I was actually just immitating you guys... :rolleyes:

Isn't it interesting how you can't?
We could easily mimic you, but you could never mimic us with any accuracy. You simply don't have what it takes.
Our diverse and comprehensive array of attributes encompass yours, and continue to expand. We have a little truthseeker in us, but we are litterally better than that.
You'd have to become more than you are to mock us.
We're trees and you're a shrub. We can make one of the tips of our branches shiver and tremble, mockingly resembling a shrub but you could never sway with great winds or sustain a koala bear. Children could never build a fort in you.

If I was you I would only ever ask questions in a desperate attempt to defy my bonsai genes and become some kind of moderately sized bush.

The irony, ofcourse, is that in fumbling and failing to imitate the egos of your betters you've evidenced why those egos are valid. In attempting to mock the way we say we are better than you, you've shown yourself to be worse.
You might as well have been scientifically proven to be a loser, read through the data yourself, and bow your head in shame.

In other words, you are mentally incapable of coming up with a valid sound argument against me, so you need to appeal to your babbling skills.... :rolleyes:

Your are the biggest mentally handicapped loser I've ever met in my life.... :rolleyes:

I judge people a lot. I look at people and immediately make judgments and presumptions. But I don't let my demeanor reflect it. After all, I know I can easily be proven wrong.

But overall, I think judging people is a useful thing, keeping in mind that you don't cling to your initial ideas of the person. Otherwise, why would be hardwired to judge?

If you were lost in a city and saw a gang of black people, would you be inclined to ask them for directions? Not unless you're retarded or incredibly naive. If you don't want to ask this particular group of people for directions, it's because you're a judgmental person. And there's nothing wrong with this.

d)))))))YES IT MUTHAFUKIN ISSSSSS!!! moron. cause it fukin is. let me tell you. i am mixed race. whas brought up in white area, but when a teen, and in my 20s i hung out iwth Jamaican people.
whites are more visicious! ohhhh yeees you are. you have no joy in your blood. years and fukin years of head cut off from body does this. so yo dont know how to hcannle energy (not all whites mind)...so when you turn vicious yu turn quick and nasty. i have seen it. you confuse Black peoples bold ways of talkin etc with visciousness. it's not. its just you are some reserved saddo who lost your natrual riidddims long back and now you run and hide in the shadows. givin rich joyfull lovin livin black people the evil eye.
havin said that....you mean all this gangster stuff dont you. YOU whites have made that. ypur continued arrogant prejudice about people darker than yourselves has reaped what you've sown. you and yours has alienated SOME younger black people. IT IS YOUUUUR FAULT! LIVE WITH IT. better yo sttart changin your ways whitey boy

(((((((((((((((((

In fact, this is an example of how prejudice is a good thing.

The problem with prejudice arises when people cling to stereotypes and let it influence their decisions in irrational ways.

and ps...isn't it funny how you PRESUME your 'homies' here are all white?