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Neildo
09-04-06, 08:29 PM
Yep yep..


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/03/google_eavesdropping_software/

Google developing eavesdropping software
Audio 'fingerprint' for content-relevant ads

The first thing that came out of our mouths when we heard that Google is working on a system that listens to what's on your TV playing in the background, and then serves you relevant adverts, was "that's cool, but dangerous".

The idea appeared in Technology Review citing Peter Norvig, director of research at Google, who says these ideas will show up eventually in real Google products - sooner rather than later.

The idea is to use the existing PC microphone to listen to whatever is heard in the background, be it music, your phone going off or the TV turned down. The PC then identifies it, using fingerprinting, and then shows you relevant content, whether that's adverts or search results, or a chat room on the subject.

And, of course, we wouldn’t put it past Google to store that information away, along with the search terms it keeps that you've used, and the web pages you have visited, to help it create a personalised profile that feeds you just the right kind of adverts/content. And given that it is trying to develop alternative approaches to TV advertising, it could go the extra step and help send "content relevant" advertising to your TV as well.

We suspect that such a world would be rather eerie, with a constant feeling of déjà vu every time anyone watched TV.

Technology Review said Google talked about this software in Europe last June, and that it breaks sound into a five-second snippets to pick out audio from a TV, reducing the snippet to a digital "fingerprint", which it matches on an internet server.

Given the furore caused when AOL released searches on the internet, there might be more than a few civil liberties activists less than happy for Google to put this idea into practice. Also, given that Google provides the software link between its search software and the microphone, it's a small step to making the same link to any webcams attached to the PC.

Pretty soon the security industry is going to find a way to hijack the Google feed and use it for full on espionage.

Google says that its fingerprinting technology makes it impossible for the company (or anyone else) to eavesdrop on other sounds in the room, such as personal conversations, because the conversion to a fingerprint is made on the PC, and a fingerprint can't be reversed, as it's only an identity.

But we should think that "spyware" might take on an extra meaning if someone less scrupulous decided on a similar piece of software.

The Google program converts sound into graphs, weeds out background noise, and reduces the graphs to key features that can then be translated into just four bytes of information, so that the fingerprints for an entire year of television programming would add up to no more than a few gigabytes, the company said.

Meanwhile, in an unconnected announcement this week, Google said it has signed a multi-year agreement with online auction giant eBay, to provide text-based advertising outside the US.

The companies also plan to launch a "click-to-call" advertising function on eBay using Skype and Google Talk.

Copyright © 2006, Faultline

Needless to say, I won't be using anymore Google products if true.

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S.A.M.
09-04-06, 08:46 PM
Since I watch only foreign films and Comedy Central, it should be a laugh.

Billy T
09-04-06, 09:18 PM
I have several times had to include "if memory serves me correctly,..." and always felt like I was some old dog who could not be troubled to learn new tricks. (Usually rationalizing, at least to myself, with comments about how much crap is out in there in webland) Now I have a new rationalization. Thanks (and I thought running my anti "data miner" software once a week was sufficient.)

Well from now on, I will need to plug in my mike when daughters in US call me on skype.com

imaplanck.
09-04-06, 09:28 PM
ridiculous, this is a joke yeah?
How many people have microphone connected and how many people watch TV or listen to an external stereo system while at the computer? Even if they could somehow get software to recognize your external veiwing and listening habits there must be far more information that can be gleaned form your surfing, listening, viewing and gaming habits while at the PC. Most probably an extremely expensive exercise and virtually pointless, not to mention the legal ramifications for google.
This reeks of bullshit!

Billy T
09-04-06, 09:42 PM
ridiculous, this is a joke yeah?
How many people have microphone connected and how many people watch TV or listen to an external stereo system while at the computer? ...I only have a sample of one. - About 90% of time I am here at terminal the TV is on bbc if it is news program* or CCN if not (bloomberg has too many graphs for passive "background listening") Until 5 minutes ago my mike was one 100% of the time computer was. (I don't like the head phones - just use computers speakers and a directional mike so not much echo of daughts voice picked up by it and sent back to her.
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* getting up to change TV chanels when program changes is good for the legs.
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I see the little green light on the creative camera clipped to top of lid / screen of my laptop computer is still on and plan to leave it on 100% of time - don't know and don't care if anyone is watching.

I can however foresee the future day when it, not some key stroke password, will give me alone access to this machine.