Good Fundamentalism Bad Fundamentalism, What about "FUNDAMENTALISTS" on the left?


At the age of semantics meaning a lot, it is evident that this term is reserved very selectively.
I dare the MSM on fundamentalists such as: secularists, or anti-warriors.

1) "Anti War" warriors beat up ordinary innocent passers by in France (2003).

2) Radical secularists are on an all out war on religion in America, via ACLU and other.

3) Hatred towards practicing Christians in liberal Europe, the anti-Bush bashing manifesting in denigrating his Christianity is part of it.

4) A minority within a minority, radical gays in a secular minority in religious Jewish majority of the holy city of Jerusalem, threaten violence (November, 2006).

5) Fanatical "anti war" icons like Michael Moore demonizes ALL Americans abroad.

6) Radical Cindy Sheehan incites American public against US soldiers & torments parents of American servicemen & women.


Some ideas are accepted to be free without any boundaries, with absolute no end insight, other ideas are branded "fundamentalism" only to try to stop them in their mere beginning.

This very lefty radicalism in itself is fundamentalism at it's "best".

There is no war on religion in America.

Anti-war protesters are almost universally peaceful. There was a guy in Texas that shot a shotgun at Cindy Sheehan, how's that for radical?

Christianity is not under fire in Europe, I have been there.

Valid criticisms of Bush's brand of evangelical hypocracy does not constitute "bashing", or fundamentalism.

Gays in Israel have suffered at the hands of religious fundamentalists. It's not OK to threaten violence, but I would have to see the context of your assertion. Link?

Michael Moore may be disliked by the right, but he's not that radical, nor does he demonize Americans. He's a social/cultural critic.

Sheehan does not incite anyone against US soldiers, nor does she torment the parents of American serviceman and women, as she actually is one.



I assume by fundamentalism you mean, strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles. If those principles happen to be the constitution, I don't see the problem. However, even constitutional principles require interpretation at times. Democrats and liberals have never advocated a strict and unerring adherence to a set of rules, and are the ones often promoting open debate and dialogue.

Evangelical Christians DO try to dominate the polical life of America, the same way Kiwi123 tries to dominate this forum. They hold fast to the inerrancy of their views, supposedly derived from the bible. This makes them especially intolerant of anything that opposes them.

I wasn't talking about the average anti War-nick, (heck I myself never supported the Iraq war from the beginning also because of mis-planning and misreading the Arab world, they will always see a strager in non Arabs even "helpers" it is a form of racism) but nor did I speak much against it) of course he/she is peaceful, but I was bringing samples of radical fundamentalists on the left.
As to your charge of domination, I am active not "dominating".
I do not intimdate people nor do I get too personal against anyone, I talk to the ISSUES.

I think their complaints aren't based on an ideology like pacifism, but rather that there was no good reason to go to war with Iraq, and the reasons that were given turned out not to be true, that there was no real debate before the war, that the anti-war position constituted terrorism itself, that civil liberties were being violated. It's not a fundamentalist position.

Ideology aside, It is certainly a FUNDAMENTALIST way & practice, the above examples are.

Gays in Israel have suffered at the hands of religious fundamentalists. It's not OK to threaten violence, but I would have to see the context of your assertion. Link?


What is suffering in not allowing to parade in the holiest city on earth???

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/nov/06110605.html Tel Aviv Synagogue Desecration in Support Jerusalem Gay Pride (Israel concedes for parade)


Michael Moore may be disliked by the right, but he's not that radical, nor does he demonize Americans. He's a social/cultural critic. .Not the way Germans see it, trust me.
More: NPR : Hollywood and the Spread of Anti-AmericanismAt the same time, anti-American sentiment is rising. Michael Moore and any similar filmmakers ...
www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6625002


Sheehan does not incite anyone against US soldiers, nor does she torment the parents of American serviceman and women, as she actually is one. .Why did she protest at the recruiting points and insulted parents of soldiers?
Reno News and Review September 08, 2005
bashing the president and his foreign policy; and/or tormenting injured and maimed soldiers. ...
www.newsreview.com/reno/Content?oid=oid%3A42375

I think anti-gay activists desecrated the synagogue themselves to make the gays seem more radical than they really are.

Oh you surely don't believe that, it is too holy for them, the secular police investigators it, also does not think as you do.

I do think it's entirely possible. If the police reported evidence that supports your view, please post it. The idea that something is "too holy" is preposterous.

George Bush created the conditions that create anti-Americanism, not Moore's criticisms of Bush. That's bass ackwards. The Europeans I know are asking the same questions as Moore, why are Americans so prone to violence and gun crime? Why did they attack a country that posed no threat to them? Why are they destroying civil liberties and consolidating power in an anti-constitutional way? Why are they such religious nutballs?

Why did she protest at the recruiting points
She is against the Iraq war, and doesn't want any more people to die there like her son did.

and insulted parents of soldiers?
How?

Liberalism is fundamentalism.

Good Fundamentalism Bad Fundamentalism, What about "FUNDAMENTALISTS" on the left?

Remember Jim Jones? The Leftist/communist minister who forced his congregation to commit mass suicide via Kool Aid? Very rarely are his left wing views mentioned.

I see, guilt by association, and the no real association to speak of. Pathetic.

Remember Jim Jones? The Leftist/communist minister who forced his congregation to commit mass suicide via Kool Aid? Very rarely are his left wing views mentioned.wow, What a great example, my thanks to you.

Liberalism is fundamentalism.No argument here.

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Secular fundamentalism doesn't want to be recognized as such.