Well,I began thinking and yes it hurt slightly... But I came up with an question. I know it is hard enough conceiving an Idea for our own purpose, but I began thinking, what would be the purpose of God? (well assume he is real for immediate puposes).

Now, I am probably not the first to come up with this question. Now what I mean is, what is god's life's purpose (Not life as in our finite lives, but his own).

This is a seperate, yet related thought. I know that if I was God, eventually i might get bored of watching over people. If you have no limits on your powers, and eternity to kill, what do you do, create people to watch. Influence their lives. stuff. But what if he found another way to occupy his time, wouldn't it be conceited of us to think that humans are the only reason God is in creation?

Enough of these threads on god. This is the philosophy forum. Religion is one door south.

Enough of these threads on god. This is the philosophy forum. Religion is one door south.

I fully concur.
While we're at it, is there any way we can get an admin to stop c20H25N3o from dropping its inane messianic diatribe into the philosophy threads?

I further concur with everything in the two posts above.

It is a philosophical question. Philosophy isn't just asking, why are we alive, the idea of god is in all cultures. How can you Have an Open Philosophy disscusion, while excluding God, or the idea of God... If you deny the effects of religion on philosophy then you are blind.

I just thought of this so i decided to add it.

Just thinking out loud but what if the human mind was created to think, I know it sounds rhetorical, but what i mean is what if our brains, were created to produce energy. If it would be possible to harness the energy that our brains put out daily just on random thoughts, we are consistently thinking. A Figure like a god could most certainly harness this energy for his own needs, perhaps he is not omnipotent, but finite, and he created us to give him more energy. It is said in the bible that on sunday he rested, why would a omnipotent being need to rest, perhaps, he doesn't have infinite power so he created his own source, the human brain.

Well thats my rant for this evening.

Just thinking out loud but what if the human mind was created to think, I know it sounds rhetorical, but what i mean is what if our brains, were created to produce energy. If it would be possible to harness the energy that our brains put out daily just on random thoughts, we are consistently thinking. A Figure like a god could most certainly harness this energy for his own needs, perhaps he is not omnipotent, but finite, and he created us to give him more energy. It is said in the bible that on sunday he rested, why would a omnipotent being need to rest, perhaps, he doesn't have infinite power so he created his own source, the human brain.

The power output from the brain is ridiculously small compared to our notions of energy (i.e. stars, motor engines).

God rests today. His work is done. Creation is finished. He now dwells with us by His Spirit. This is my belief anyway. A bit like the farmer who plants out his crops and expects a harvest. We are the fruits of His labour in my opinion. He will come for His harvest soon and the dead will be raised and each fruit will be judged for it's worth. Fruits that are pleasing to Him will be given the right to eat from the fruit of the Tree of Eternal life and Paradise will be restored to those. This is the Word of God according the the Christian faith.

peace

c20

This is a seperate

I swear that if I ever see "sepArate" spelled as "sepErate" again, I'm going to start spitting gall and sulphur!

I further concur with everything in the two posts above.

Apologies. I just responded to the Title of the thread. I did not note the sub forum heading.

Hoping you will forgive me.

peace

c20 :m:

I know that if I was God, eventually i might get bored of watching over people.

Maybe after all its pretty entertaining

I agree with w30dogg concerning God as a valid philosophical question, and a valid philosophical notion to explore.

However, I do not agree with the direction of w30dogg's speculation concerning God.

Purpose implies design. Design implies beginning. God is said to be eternal, hence God does not serve purpose.

Boredom is a form of unhappiness, or frustration. Unhappiness and frustration are results of lack of fulfillment and satisfaction. God is said to be infinite, therefore He is completely fulfilled and satisfied. Hence, God wouldn't experience boredom.

In retort to God as a philosophical question.....Philosophy is about the act of thinking and when one considers God there is an end to thinking itself. God in his eternity and necessity that people perscribe him becomes a sacred cow an idol an impediment to thinking itself. There is of course the ridiculous essence of the question itself which really has no place in religion either for who are we to suppose anything about God. To define God would be in essence to destroy him. God has no place in philosophy.

"Philosophy is about the act of thinking..."

Actually, Philosophy, etymologically speaking, is the Love of Wisdom. Wisdom is the understanding and application of experience to everyday living. If one understands God to be part of his/her experience (whether he/she is right or wrong about it), then God may most certainly be said to be part of philosophy.

Discussion of God often belongs to that part of Philosophy called Metaphysics, but may definitely pervade into other branches, since God isn't considered simply to be a concern for the matter of First Origins.

Thought, and the act of thinking, is a branch of philosophy, but does not consume the whole of philosophy. To believe so is foolish at best.

Well,I began thinking and yes it hurt slightly... But I came up with an question. I know it is hard enough conceiving an Idea for our own purpose, but I began thinking, what would be the purpose of God? (well assume he is real for immediate puposes).

Now, I am probably not the first to come up with this question. Now what I mean is, what is god's life's purpose (Not life as in our finite lives, but his own).

This is a seperate, yet related thought. I know that if I was God, eventually i might get bored of watching over people. If you have no limits on your powers, and eternity to kill, what do you do, create people to watch. Influence their lives. stuff. But what if he found another way to occupy his time, wouldn't it be conceited of us to think that humans are the only reason God is in creation?


Why do people think that everything needs a purpose? Take a rock and put it on your table, do not use it in any way; it does not have a purpose now, does it? Still it is there.
In the same way, fictional characters serve no real purpose, they are just there to look at them. And yes, I include god in those fictional characters since I do not think that anyone knows anything about god.

Furthermore, a god is normally considered perfect, at least in our time, and a perfect being cannot feel bored or unfulfilled, except if boredom is perfection.

And if there really was a god that created us, then he may have moved on, creating other things, creatures and places. After all, this god is infinite, so he has infinite chances to entertain himself.


And I think that thinking about a higher being fits into a philosophy forum, but this should be under religion.

Start by proving "God."

LOL

"He will come for His harvest soon and the dead will be raised and each fruit will be judged for it's worth"
so... we are fruit? god devours souls?
how can so many people have so many cnceptions of god and nothing to base them on?

Please, for my sake as well as yours, just accept that there is no god and stop the stupidity.

well I was going to make this large post, with a couple more interesting ideas...but there seems to be a lack of uh enthousiasm. So I will Keep My Questions on the nature of God to myself and focus on other avenues.

Wisdom is the understanding and application of experience to everyday living

I'm not sure what that would be to you but I would call that thinking.

Thought, and the act of thinking, is a branch of philosophy, but does not consume the whole of philosophy.

so would this make those other branches of philosophy non-thinking branches of philosophy. I wonder how many philosophers would agree with you there. All of philosophy includes the act of thinking.

I assume though that you are more directly referring to epistemology, and while this is just one branch of philosophy, it is thinking about the nature of thinking or knowledge. Epistemology however does not exclude thinking from other branches of philosophy.

Lets take this a step further if one were only to consider their experience (taken from the first qoute) then one would be not considering all knowledge obtained a priori and this would be a fatal mistake for philosophy.

All of philosophy is the act of thinking. By thinking I mean the communication of knowledge obtained from experience and a priori. To think anything else would to be at best foolish.

an interesting thread.....congrats.

My thoughts for the momento;

Knowing that one of the often spoken reasons for God's non-existance is the old arguement that "If God exists then why is there so much suffering in the world"
This arguement seems solid in that the God so often worshiped for his compassion comes across as a sadistic and nasty entity that feeds on others misery.

Well, what if that in a sense were true?

What if it is our suffering or more importantly our quest to reduce or relieve our suffering that drives the universe onwards?

"God, please take away my suffering" and whammo!!... you next realise you are "dead".

Seriously, as was suggested earlier, the energy we create in the quest to relieve our suffering, which most thinking is devoted to, could very well be the energy that the universe needs or God needs to survive.

In answer to the question: Why so much suffering? God simply replies, "because it is the quest to relieve suffering that keeps you and me alive."

"God do you suffer" to which he would reply. "If I exist then yes I too suffer and in some ways suffer more so than you...because I know I could remove suffering with a click of my fingers but can't because to do so would destroy my creation." So God sympathises thus suffers more so than us because he could relieve our suffering immediately by non-existance but chooses not to.

The truth is some times is so much more painful than we realise.

To remove suffering would be to destroy purpose and desire for tomorrow to come..
Thus no future exists if there is nothing to strive for.....

So in a way God's purpose is to ensure suffering continues as no suffering means no existance.
Maybe next time you pray [if you pray] ask God how he is coping with the tragedy of his existance?

"Enough of these threads on god. This is the philosophy forum. Religion is one door south."

i disagree, let them stay, as long as they talk about the philosophy of God. sending someone to the religion sction is really cruel

if I was God, my objectives would be to create another being of equal power to me, and to get along with that being if possible. I would not be able to enjoy a universe where i am infinately superior to everything, outlive everything and am too intelligent by an infinite amount to talk to anyone about things that interest me