God’s Questions:

• Why am I here?
• Why am I the only one here?
• Is there anybody else out there?
• Did someone create me?
• What is the meaning of Life?

God’s Problems:

• Boredom
• Loneliness

don't you mean:

People's questions?

or does god not know why he is here?

Visualize yourself as God. Wouldnt you be plaqued by those questions & problems? You know everything and can do everything except find out the answer for those.

If you are capable of thought and emotion wouldnt you be bored & lonely when there is nobody else to talk to? Wouldnt you create minor beings for your amusement? to pass time? to give meaning to your life?

How can god know everything but the answers to those particular questions? If you know everything you know everything.

Because "everything" is limited by what you sense. What if there is a more powerful being who limits what you understand & sense as "everything"? You could go around and fool around not knowing that a greater boss would come one day and judge YOU.

I think the point is that god is not limited.

If god asks himself these questions, than he would be no better than we humans. He would do the same things that we do, just on a greater scale.
From what you said DoctorNO, it would seem that:
human=god

As another thought:
Is god perhaps worshipping other gods, his supposed creators or something like that. Are there perhaps more gods, living in a society like our own?

I do not know why exactly you posted this questions, but a god like that i do not have to imagine, I could look into a mirror and see what you mean.

Im not sure God has any of those issues.
Maybe my understanding is too simple for most and some may just write it off as religous dogma. However taking your line of 'Imagine you are God ...'

Ok. I am God. I am the beginning and the end. As I brood over nothingness (because I havnt made anything yet) I have full knowedge of everything. I know how wonderful it is to hold my baby for the first time. I know how wonderful it is when my little son looks up at me with wide eyes full of awe and admiration. I know what it is to love and be loved. I know that to share is good and is an intrinsic part of love.
I want to share all that is good and I want other beings to delight in all the things I delight in soooo ...

Let there be light etc.

Now, being God I look at the creature I have made in my own image and realise that I have the capacity for evil for I have knowledge of everything. If man chooses evil then my good work is undone (I'll work out a plan for that one later). But if I give man no choice then I am guilty of a greater evil.
So I give man the choice. If man chooses what is right then he will know me through my Spirit, if he chooses what is wrong then I will have to incorporate plan B, the salvation plan. The law requires a sacrifice to atone for wrong choices soo I had to search my heart to see if I am prepared to give over my own son to be used as a sacrifice. I so love the world I have created to share my Love that I back it up by promising to send my son to pay the price if all goes pear shaped.
On the 7th day. I sit back and chill cos all my work is done.

I am still sitting back and chilling.

If god asks himself these questions, than he would be no better than we humans. He would do the same things that we do, just on a greater scale.
From what you said DoctorNO, it would seem that:
human=god

I disagree. Even with those questions & problems he would still be the supreme being over his creation. His perfect knowledge of creation, His ultra supernatural powers, His immunity from everything we can throw at him, His immortality, those things still make him God, God over us.

But in all his wisdom he should be asking those questions. And there should be some fear on his mind.

He knows the answers before he asks them. That is why he is god.

I ask myself: If god knows everything (including every feeling, emotion just everything) why should he do anything? He knows how it all began and how it will end, no reason to do anything then. It´s just not needful to act if you know everything.

As another thought:
Is god perhaps worshipping other gods, his supposed creators or something like that. Are there perhaps more gods, living in a society like our own?

I do not know why exactly you posted this questions, but a god like that i do not have to imagine, I could look into a mirror and see what you mean.
According to the 3 ancient abrahamic religions, no. Each version of God believes that there is nothing above him. As far as his knowledge goes.

I ask myself: If god knows everything (including every feeling, emotion just everything) why should he do anything? He knows how it all began and how it will end, no reason to do anything then. It´s just not needful to act if you know everything.

It is needful to act if you want to share your glorious position with creatures to whom you will give glory and immortality to. You have to create them.

After that its not needful to act. You can just sit back and chill. Seventh day = Today!

@ DoctorNO

If he would be so perfect, he would not ask those questions since he must now the answer because he is god.
If he would ask these questions, he would be no perfect god.

@ c20H25N3o

But why does god want to do it?

I ask myself: If god knows everything (including every feeling, emotion just everything) why should he do anything? He knows how it all began and how it will end, no reason to do anything then. It´s just not needful to act if you know everything.
Because he was bored and lonely. Being all by yourself for all eternity is unthinkable and unbearable. And he needed to test the limits of his power.

But when he is god he knows the limits of his power, or at least he should. If not he is very much human i think.
And it is just unthinkable for us mortals, for god nothing should be unthinkable and unbearable.

@ DoctorNO

If he would be so perfect, he would not ask those questions since he must now the answer because he is god.
If he would ask these questions, he would be no perfect god.

@ c20H25N3o

But why does god want to do it?

But wisdom dictates that you consider the possibility that what you see & understand are nothing but what a greater being chooses to reveal to you. He could be living in an illusion for all he knows. Thinking that he knows everything when in fact what he knows are just a fragment of reality.

@Dreamwalker

That is such a good question. I will attempt to explain ...
There came a point in my life when I wanted a child. My motives were simple. I had a lot and I wanted to give a child the opportunity to share it. I wanted to support that child and raise that child and have that child make me proud. I wanted to stand back and say 'Theres my son, look how tall he is, look how his eyes shine!'.
I wanted to see my child marry and have children of his own. I wanted to share what I had through a long line of peoples.
God is no different. God is 'Love'.

That is true, I see your point DoctorNo. If god thinks this way, he is at a dead end and he looks very human to me standing there all alone thinking about his place, his meaning and his being.

And again, why create anything? It would be pointless to create anything if it is just an illusion. Also he cannot verify if his being or creation is more than an illusion. All his knowledge and wisdom, his power and everything could just be an illusion, a way he pictures himself in his mind.

That is true, I see your point. If god thinks this way, he is at a dead end and he looks very human to me standing there all alone thinking about his place, his meaning and his being.

And again, why create anything? It would be pointless to create anything if it is just an illusion. Also he cannot verify if his being or creation is more than an illusion. All his knowledge and wisdom, his power and everything could just be an illusion, a way he pictures himself in his mind.

God came here as a human being. In the person of Jesus he knew what it was to be alone. He knew what it was to suffer. He knew what it was to be a sinner and be cut off from God. He knew what it was to be us. How could he have knowledge of everything if he knew not what it was to suffer in the flesh and be cut off from God.

I dont get your point about the illusion? Why would it be an illusion? :confused:

peace

c20

@ c20H25N3o

But god is not only "love" he is everything, including hate. He is an optimist and a nihilist. As a conclusion he must be neutral in his thinking or his mood changes very often.
The first possibility would mean that he should have no motivation to create.
The scond possibilty means that he creates and destroys, then again, this would be an unreasonable behaviour for an omniscient being.

About the illusion, did you read the post of doctorNO?
But wisdom dictates that you consider the possibility that what you see & understand are nothing but what a greater being chooses to reveal to you. He could be living in an illusion for all he knows. Thinking that he knows everything when in fact what he knows are just a fragment of reality.

@ c20H25N3o

But god is not only "love" he is everything, including hate. He is an optimist and a nihilist. As a conclusion he must be neutral in his thinking or his mood changes very often.
The first possibility would mean that he should have no motivation to create.
The scond possibilty means that he creates and destroys, then again, this would be an unreasonable behaviour for an omniscient being.

This is a bit of a bastardised bible quote but the feeling should remain true ...

Who are you the clay pot, to turn round to the Potter and say I should be this shape or that clay pot should not be destroyed. Surely the Potter knows what he is doing???

Also because God has knowledge of everything doesnt mean he practices all that he knows. God is God because he chooses Love.

i belive dreamwalker has a point in saying that if god is having these "?" then he's not very Godly but I dont think that makes him human because even with those ?'s he is still not our equal.

I see your point. I do not agree with it, but there are more ideas of god than waterdrops in the sea. :p

And I do not quote from the bible, not even in a bastardised form. That´s my own statement. If something like this is written in the bible it is coincidence. :D

And I still say: God is like us humans, just on a greater scale!

(see the words "like" and "greater", he is still more than we humans)

Agreed ! for all we know we know are existence could be just one rung on a ladder with God being on the rung just above us. i'm pretty sure a persons gold fish doesn't know much about God but he sure does know about the person on the outside of the bowl that feeds him everyday.

God’s Questions

God’s Problems:

• Boredom
• Loneliness
I think god needs to get drunk,get laid and not to worry so much. :D

C20,

He knew what it was to be a sinner and be cut off from God.Umm isn’t the point of the Jesus myth that he DIDN’T commit any sin so he would never have known what it was like to be a sinner?

He knew what it was to be us. Right just like we go around performing miracles all the time. And how the hell can he live a life so perfect without giving into human pleasures and temptations - because he was a god and knew it, and so he could never have been like us and he would have been really dumb not to have known that.

Kat

C20,
Umm isn’t the point of the Jesus myth that he DIDN’T commit any sin so he would never have known what it was like to be a sinner?
Kat

Well he himself didnt commit any sin but he became sin in order that it could be put to death. If Jesus was a sinner himself, God could not have justified the resserection.


Right just like we go around performing miracles all the time. And how the hell can he live a life so perfect without giving into human pleasures and temptations - because he was a god and knew it, and so he could never have been like us and he would have been really dumb not to have known that.

When he became our sin on the cross he knew what it was like to be us and have our fallen natures. It was then that he was put to death instead of us.

This is my understanding albeit rather childlike :)

He was also a human being and faced the same temptations as we do. The difference was that he had full revelation of God's person. If you like, this was his advantage but he was still subject to the same temptations that we are. He did not have superhuman powers to resist them other than his faith and love for God.

peace

c20

God came here as a human being. In the person of Jesus he knew what it was to be alone. He knew what it was to suffer. He knew what it was to be a sinner and be cut off from God. He knew what it was to be us. How could he have knowledge of everything if he knew not what it was to suffer in the flesh and be cut off from God.

Ermm excuse me for stepping into the 'What if God was one of us' type question, but since when was Jesus God? Isn't Jesus the son of God? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not being insulting, but throughout my painful childhood as a Catholic (I've run a mile since.. lol), I had it drummed into my head that Jesus was the son of God. I don't think I've ever heard of any Christian branch referring to Jesus as God. Sorry I'm just curious here.


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Ermm excuse me for stepping into the 'What if God was one of us' type question, but since when was Jesus God? Isn't Jesus the son of God? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not being insulting, but throughout my painful childhood as a Catholic (I've run a mile since.. lol), I had it drummed into my head that Jesus was the son of God. I don't think I've ever heard of any Christian branch referring to Jesus as God. Sorry I'm just curious here.


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Fair point and yes Jesus is the Son of God but my understanding is that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are God in 3 persons. They are mutual and exclusive. Kind of weird I know and i dont really understand it fully but i think its something to do with love and parenthood / child love. I dont think it detracted from my original statement tho :)

Fair point and yes Jesus is the Son of God but my understanding is that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are God in 3 persons. They are mutual and exclusive. Kind of weird I know and i dont really understand it fully but i think its something to do with love and parenthood / child love. I dont think it detracted from my original statement tho :)

That would surely solve the "boredom" and "loneliness" issue. Also God would be able to practice his many human attributes like love.

If god asks himself these questions, than he would be no better than we humans. He would do the same things that we do, just on a greater scale.
From what you said DoctorNO, it would seem that:
human=god

As another thought:
Is god perhaps worshipping other gods, his supposed creators or something like that. Are there perhaps more gods, living in a society like our own?

I do not know why exactly you posted this questions, but a god like that i do not have to imagine, I could look into a mirror and see what you mean.
of course god worships another god and the other god worships a higher being etc , it's basic chicken and egg situation
and yes when i see the smile on my childs face thats who i worship

Well, at least your child exists, that´s not necessarily true for god :D

of course god worships another god and the other god worships a higher being etc , it's basic chicken and egg situation
and yes when i see the smile on my childs face thats who i worship

so u belive in god/s ? if so what do u think makes him our god

so u belive in god/s ? if so what do u think makes him our god
how do you get that, from my statement.

no I dont because if there was a god who made him and so on and so on
adinfinitum.

if it never stop's there is never one to believe in, even if you wanted to.and I dont

how silly

Ermm excuse me for stepping into the 'What if God was one of us' type question, but since when was Jesus God? Isn't Jesus the son of God? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not being insulting, but throughout my painful childhood as a Catholic (I've run a mile since.. lol), I had it drummed into my head that Jesus was the son of God. I don't think I've ever heard of any Christian branch referring to Jesus as God. Sorry I'm just curious here.


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catholic hey? I was once a catholic too.

the answer to your question is written in John

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

Jesus is the Word he is the Light.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days