Gnutella censorship by gov. intelligence?

Discussion in 'Computer Science & Culture' started by Ravan, May 30, 2003.

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  1. Ravan Registered Member

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    Hmm,
    something strange happens with a file i want to share.
    A PDF file I got from the P2P was called to be an erotic content with some megabytes. After opening, it turned out to something completly different. I renamed the file to its cover title:
    (ebook - conspiracy) - David Icke - The Biggest Secret.pdf
    and put it in the sharing folder. Then the remarkable things happened.

    In the first two hours this file was highly requested. Several different clients requested the file almost all the time. (Allthough I share some hundred files). But just by holding the connection by streaming 0.2 or 0.3 kb/s. Other uploads streamed normal with up to 10 kb/s. Then, a client swallowed it with 10kb/s up to about 95% and cut off suddenly. Since then no single client requested it anymore whole the day.

    Is it possible that the whole internet transfer is filtered in realtime? Large parts like communication are reviewed automatically as you may know, but a realtime surpression of some content? I thought this to be a free medium. Im usually NOT paranoide! I notice conspiracy topics with some intrest but I definitly do not feel scared or touched by any intelligence crap things. The book is fine published and quite good and new and it seems you can buy it at book stores, as far I can see after a rough look. It is NO! cheap junk like you often can see on this topic. Maybe you try to load it, my server runs often over night. I do not like to tell here the original filename. Maybe Im paranoide indeed. Try: (ebook - conspiracy) - David Icke - The Biggest Secret.pdf
     
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  3. b3nkay Registered Senior Member

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    Honestly, I doubt it. However, when I double click on it, the icon changes to the dl-ing icon, and doesn't appear in the d/l window. Stranger yet, when I browse the host (I can browse the host, that's weird in and of itself), I can download other files from the host. This has me extremely spooked.
     
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  5. Ravan Registered Member

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    At least it is worth telling, whether content may be supressed or not, that this specific file was recognized instantly after sharing it in that described manner. These clients were browsing my content therefore holding the connection while I wasnt able to browse them. I dont think there is a technical gnutella reason that a freshly installed file gets instant request for an hour or more and after then none. It exactly happened as described.

    When I will not get a single upload sucess Ill increase its filesize and give it another tasty filename. OK, some of its content is to smile about, but I find some other parts quite interesting.
     
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  7. Walker Hard Work! Registered Senior Member

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    Gnutella is really good on toast...or English Muffins!
     
  8. spyderweb84 Registered Senior Member

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    I actually own that book, and several other books by Mr. Icke. It's available at any bookstore, so I don't see why they would try to censor it on Gnutella. I'd imagine only a very small portion of people would see it, and if you really wanted it, you could go buy it at the store.
     
  9. spyderweb84 Registered Senior Member

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    It is odd that I just did a search for David Icke, and with 5 ultrapeers each with about 300K files on the horizon, I didn't get a SINGLE result.
     
  10. spyderweb84 Registered Senior Member

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    Anal from Any girl, ROFLMAO, is that you Raven?
     
  11. ZwiSter Registered Senior Member

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    I did, and the download just began.
     
  12. Ravan Registered Member

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    >>> Anal from Any girl, ROFLMAO, is that you Raven?

    OhhhNoNo. Didnt make a fake.

    Did not see a single hit so far (autoremove OFF for uploads)
    but maybe I missed it somehow.

    An exotic booktitle at a book store has much less publicity,
    than a free sharing???

    ! An intrest by intelligence services wont say anything about the truth
    of its content anyway. A prooven intrest could also mean that the
    book is not warm welcomed. And thats may also be the point for
    a bunch of dangerous or cheeky lies about U.S.
    http://helsing.virtualave.net/Buch1/ "THE classic conspiracy book"
    Was (or is?) prohibited in germany, even the digital ownership, officially(?)
    because of some anti semitic content. But a book wich avoids the braking
    of existing law, is not able to become under such punishment as easily.
    But that doesnt mean that the estabsihment has to love it.

    I would be glad if somebody can explain these permament hits
    instantly after installing...

    P.S. Me myself Im not ANTI against any beeing, despite an actual hazard nearer than its weapons range.
     
  13. Ravan Registered Member

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    Try :

    ravans server test file.rtf

    If you find it Im online, you can browse me and try
    to download the specific PDF.
     
  14. ZwiSter Registered Senior Member

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    Could you say somwething about the perceived anti-semitic content? I don't have time yet to read it, so a few prereading infos would be nice.
     
  15. Ravan Registered Member

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    Hmm,
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    Could you say somwething about the perceived anti-semitic content? I don't have time yet to read it, so a few prereading infos would be nice.
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    Sounds a bit you are interested in my personal political correctness.
    So, I dont have to fear that, I guess.

    But Im not that familiar with such kind of literature anyway. Im NO enthusiastic conspiracy consumer, i.e. that David Icke I overflew diagonal and tried to get some interesting info. So I did with the other years ago and had a brief look at it now.

    In my eyes JVH is no anti-semit at all. No commen ancient statments about a lower kind of humans. Definitly not. There are lots of pamphletic critics about JVH on the net but they are not justy about what he wants to say. Its very easy to summarize his book in a way that everyone laughs at him, or grade him at a philosophic niveau of that austrian dictator Adolf who enslaved germany over 12+ years. JVH describes i.e. the origin and development of the rothschid empire and concludes that their money was made to have secret influence on the world. He never says: These bastards have to be eliminated. He probably not even thinks that. Not even about the alien hegemony he describes.

    2 points of my personal view on the topic:
    (and i dont see a hard oposition to JVHs statments)
    When a proud nation of such high cultural development decides AD60+ to leave entirely their homeland because they rather want to loose their territory than futher loosing their spiritual integrity because of the (ancient americans decadents) roman rulers, and if they manage not to loose their patriotism, selfbelieve and collegial support it is only natural that they will have much influence 2k years later on. And even maybe that was their fate and the suffered a lot on that. And just diagnosing that is no criminal event. But the hate and fear about such an outstanding community is understandable too.
    (Hey Friedmann! You have to cope with that or give up the whole concept. Jammert dann nicht wie die Waschweiber wegen ein bischen Strafgericht zwischendurch. Ravans IRONICAL internal brain comment)

    The other thing:
    The heart of earth still beats, man! Our animal farm still works fine and the secret farmers havent crashed it yet, what not seems to trivial for me. Good luck fellows. The conshious installment of a bipolar world by unconshious Adolf was well done and did its job. The whole babbling about evel red or evel whith-blue pentagramms is kindergarden-talk. If you think you need 6 ... 6 ... 6 formatting each commercial barcode to fullfill the last book of the bible or a 100 mm pentagramm to nail evels face and layout germans identitycard (look at the upsidedown backside of the german-club ID card, there is an opposing 100 mm pentagramm figuring out the whole background design what was my personal discovery after wondering about the visible goat-head there) ... make it. Go on prooveing your craftsmanship.

    Of course you can´t tell such things at the animals party programms. Of course not. Its nearly criminal to mention such in public literature. If you share all monetary pseudo value justy to all citicens the whole system will stagnate again. People need their fairy-tales essentially for life.

    I have nothing to do about ruling the world and I like that. I need a good work to to, a loving wife and my children cheeky to be happy. Ill judge you by the qualety of my tap water. But I claim my right to run for as much truth I can get. I eternally will, thats my right and my duty as man.

    You will have to hide your secrets well if you want to keep them!

    If you subordinate JVH these essential enlightments he is a notANTIanything.

    !!!!! If the ownership of that book is still criminal I tell in public:
    I have no local copy, had a brief look online and deleted then my browsercache.
    My akademical copy of Adolfs Kampf is also deleted, and I really think its disgusting Kraut-salad with no valuable or interesting content. And thats it for sure.
     
  16. Ravan Registered Member

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    22 hundred - End of workday! (am since 09 hundred online)

    No single hit... my porn-comic-pdfs are running like warm bread meanwhile.
     
  17. Ravan Registered Member

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    For those of odd citizenship.

    Yes, thats mine attached. Hope you see the jpg.
    Make a handstand and see the male goat with covered horns.

    The correlations seem to my eyes significant.

    The inner circle is exactly 0.618... x the main radius of 100mm.
    What is the "golden section" or "gods section" which in the whole universe
    exclusively appears in the selfdeviding proportion of the lines of a Pentacle (Pentagramm) and is often used by artists and designer.
    (Pentacle is the most powerful symbol of white and black magic)
    Youll get an inverted (satanic) one by connecting the edges of the five corners, the main intersection points in the center area.
    Youll see it when cutting an apple side to side and you can easyly deform the green smilie sign leaf to it.

    It begins to glow mentally when concentrating to much on it, even without smoking weed. You have to draw it yourself, in one stroke, beginning lowerleft and clockwise for banning, and lowerright counterclockwise for calling. Please dont try it faced upside down.

    Ancient Jewish priests were always fine performer of magic and numberinterpretation. What is proven, honestly. Call me mad, i need that sometimes and I like magicians by the way.:m:
     
  18. ZwiSter Registered Senior Member

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    >snip<

    Not really. I was just interested if the book is worth reading. As it sounds, it is, and if it should be still criminal I will deny ever having read it, or maybe not, and let a court decide, if it really is that dangerous

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    . Maybe I should put it into freenet, maybe someone already did that.

    >snip<
    Nice speech

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    I enjoyed reading it, even though it is a bit simple, but what do I expect from a forum message? You don't have space to write a novel about it ;-)

    Then you will have a hard time not becoming political, because the water is what the WTO just tries to make for sale.

    And I think you shouldn't watch the mass media. I was at the demonstrations against the G8-meeting this weekend, and then I got told, what was on the news.
    I didn't see more violence, than a few punks (not really punks, they were black clothed and masked, but not more dangerous, than a typical drunken street punk) trying to destroy a petrol-station, and then 1000 people shouting "no a la violence", and those 20 or thirty black clad people hiding in the mass and takng off their masks, because they didn't have the courage or will to continue their idiocy, when 1000 peaceful people shouted at them to stop it. The whole demonstration had 50.000 to 120.000 people, but you couldn't ever see them 'cause they weren't even visible together at the concert on the border between switzerland and france. They were just to many to fit the space.

    Friends of mine where clouded with tear-gas (for some time by even a gas grenade every 20s or so), but they said it wasn't at all as hard as they had thought. In the end it was a sport to stop those gas-grenades from burning, and the blockade they where in (while the other half of our group walked in the demonstration) was well enough organized, that you could relax during it to nice music and a good vegetarian meal, and listen to the plenum, which decided how to go on. In the end they left together after 6 hours, because they decided to, and without the police driving them away.

    The media showed buring barricades, destroyed windows, etc, which I never even saw (but I learned for what they use the barricades: the rising hot air blows the tear-gas away.)

    But what I saw was the people of Annemasse taking those wooden barricades from their windows after our first peaceful demonstration and donating us orangina and water during the second, while the sun burned, and old grandma's applauding from their windows and balconies.

    But I'm going off topic.

    *gg* I don't know if it is illegal (I doubt it), but I never read "Mein Kampf" and we had that fragging wwII three or four times in school, till it bubbled out of our ears. Much more interesting is "Die Welle" (I assume it is called "the wave" in America). You should read it if you really want to learn something about what drives nazis and their kind, aside from needing something to hate other than themselves and all that bushit about better races or societies and such.
     
  19. ZwiSter Registered Senior Member

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    Wow, I never saw that on my ID-card before

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    What Bundesland is Sulzfeld in?

    Besides: Thanks for moving this thread, Dave.
     
  20. Ravan Registered Member

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    Nord-Baden (BadenWuerttemberg)

    Make a crawler search for "Ravan Sulzfeld", youll find smth about
    the founder of the castle Ravensburg "Knight Ravan 950AD".

    Allthough im no relative to the todays family "von Göler", i grew up on foot of that castle. And it is likely that such a cute black knight lost some genes at the village. Historically the Gölers had a remarkable good relationship to their village-people, even while the "Bauernkrieg" went on, and lots of aristokrats were killed by their staff.

    (The roman Limes went through the forest near sulzfeld, and as a real patriot im on the side of the ancient german warriors, imagine! even 2000 years later we are still forced by these invaders to cut our hair and shave our beards to be sucsessful in earning values, honorable Jews: they prefered to leave to country, keeping their cool outfit cute)

    Thanks for reading BTW.
     
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  22. Ravan Registered Member

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    This thread seems to be quieter than a church!
    I really miss some folks calling me mad or trying to sell a nuclear device.

    Let me lower bit the risk of getting your pants wet:

    12 years ago I bought all serious books about free-mansons which I could find on one day at a pre-www-age online store. No conspiracy stuff, just offical descriptions, big pictured-bricks and so on. Together with everything else I know about their even hard-corest fractions I know that there is nothing to fear from that side if youre not member of a conspiracy-unit youreself.

    They admire and respect every honest, endeavored man, allthough they know cruel punishment for their own members who endanger their integrity. They probably poisoned W.A.Mozart to death, but this naive guy went in and then was discreet like a woman ... used their secrets as a main plot for his latest (and best) opera.

    Theres nothing to fear for a honest, free, equal man except the big designer of worlds himself. Only life endangers your health. A little passive resistence against your conviction ist the crueles thing you can expect from them. Keeping their secrets is not your job, and they do not expect this from stragers anyhow.
     
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