China executes 10,000 people a year: NPC delegate

Mon Mar 15, 1:14 AM ET


BEIJING, (AFP) - China sentences to death and immediately executes around 10,000 convicted criminals every year, according to a delegate who was seeking to curb the practice at China's just closed parliamentary session. -

"Every year China has nearly 10,000 cases of the death penalty that result in immediate execution. This is about five times more than all the other death penalty cases from other nations combined," said Chen Zhonglin, a National People's Congress (NPC) delegate from Chongqing municipality.
Chen's statement, in a weekend edition of the China Youth Daily, is believed to be the first time that such a number has appeared in the state-controlled press. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040315/wl_afp/china_npc_executions_040315061433

10,000? And if that's what they admit to...

Seems really shocking for a country "getting Better" with human rights. But let's put these executions in perspective:

According to a 1996 report by Amnesty International, 90% of all organs transplanted in China come from executed prisoners. Chinese government reports state that from the time organ transplants were first performed in China in the late 1970s to the end of 1995, roughly 20,000 kidney transplant operations were performed.

The Chinese government has also stated repeatedly that the sale of organs from the prisoners it executes is not allowed. This statement is repeated despite massive evidence that Chinese hospitals—all of which are government-controlled—are directly involved in the sale of prisoners’ organs to wealthy foreigners.
ABC’s "Blood Money" report, for example, featured an interview with a Thai woman who admitted that she had had a kidney from an executed Chinese prisoner transplanted into her body. She is one of dozens of Thais known to have paid tens of thousands of dollars for a kidney transplant operation in China. For years, other transplant recipients have been known to be living in such countries as Taiwan, Indonesia, France and the United States.
http://www.laogai.org/reports/criminal.htm

There's a clear reason why China executes so many. Financial incentive.

well, 55,000 people are born every day in china, its a good form of population control i suppose

I am expecting the most skillful doctors on transplant operations found only in China.

Sinse when did executing criminals become a bad thing? Just who's side are you on, stokes? Critisizing China for implamenting the death penalty is like spitting in the face of the victims! In a nation with over a billion people I'd have to say that I'm surprised that number isn't higher.

Sinse when did executing criminals become a bad thing? Just who's side are you on, stokes? Critisizing China for implamenting the death penalty is like spitting in the face of the victims! In a nation with over a billion people I'd have to say that I'm surprised that number isn't higher.
It's not that they're executing them, it's what they're executing them for. I'm not a big fan of the death penalty period, but some of the stuff you can get the axe for over there is just silly:

Guo Haijun, 24 year old Security Guard. Crime: Theft of national treasures

Sentenced to death by Nanyang City Intermediate People’s Court on 18 January 1999. He was executed following a public sentencing rally on the order of Henan Province High People’s Court on 19 January 2000. It was reported that the case involved the theft of 31 artifacts dating from the Qing Dynasty, including 16 Grade II items and 15 Grade III items. The report indicated that Guo was a security guard in Henan museum and the items he stole were on loan to the
museum from the Palace Museum in Beijing. All the artifacts were recovered but some were damaged.

He Pu, 29 Years Old computer operator. Crime: Embezzlement

Court of first instance and date of sentence are not known. He Pu, a former computer operator at the regional branch of the People’s Bank of China, was convicted of embezzling more than 12.4m Yuan (US$1.5m) in government funds.

Ren Gang, Company Executive Crime: Smuggling

Sentenced by Taizhou City Intermediate People’s Court. It was reported that Ren and Cao Guohua smuggled 10 tonnes of caffeine from Yunnan province into Burma, for which they were paid US$20,000. (One report states
that the smuggling took place from Burma into Yunnan.)

Zulpikar Memet, Crime: Assisting separatists

Zulikar Memet was sentenced by Ili City Intermediate Court on 25 July 1999, and executed on 14 June 2000. Reported that following sentencing he was held in incommunicado detention and that he was severely tortured during interrogation and his conviction and sentence were based on a forced confession. He stated in court that he was tortured but the court ignored his statement and sentenced him to death. Zulikar
Memet, an Uighur from Gulja, was detained in 1998, originally on charges of helping separatists - including his brother Hemit Memet - to hide or escape abroad.

http://web.amnesty.org/aidoc/ai.nsf...256c13003f4f94/$FILE/ASA170312002.pdf
http://web.amnesty.org/aidoc/ai.nsf...25690000692fc5/$FILE/Append_1.pdf
http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/ENGASA170561999

There's also the trial mechanisms used. Here in the United States, you're afforded due process, and the automatic appeals process has most inmates on death row for years, only to be eventually transitioned to a life sentence or some such.

Well, thats what happens in a Stalinist Dictatorship.
Unfortunately, invading them is off the cars, so we'll just have to try and shame them by using Amnesty international. Worth a try.
I am a little surprised just how far down they go to execute people. If you executed people for stealing a million dollars over here, youd have to kill quite a few.

Get the ACLU after them, that will drive them nuts!

Sinse when did executing criminals become a bad thing? Just who's side are you on, stokes? Critisizing China for implamenting the death penalty is like spitting in the face of the victims! In a nation with over a billion people I'd have to say that I'm surprised that number isn't higher.

HAHA, Allow me to say hypocrit - so apparently, its wrong to commit suicide but its ok to put-to-death 10,000 people a year. You're ridiculous. Oh, and what were you saying about the meaning of life? "In a nation with over a billion people I'd have to say that I'm surprised that number isn't higher" You sure have a lot of respect for their lives :rolleyes:

The death penalty, has been a bad thing in most civilized countries for a long time, and as someone already pointed out, these are not "criminals" worthy of such inhumane punishment. In fact, being a criminal in China, is not that difficult, just complain about the government, or discuss democracy, and you're thrown in the cell - and before you know it, they've selected you for their miracle population control program - CHOP CHUU HED UFF

Why do western countries still do business with China? Thats a card we could play, no more manufacturing contracts until human rights are improved! Goes to show profits are more important than people.

Why do western countries still do business with China?
Because of China's dirt cheap products.


edit: and you're right, profits are more important than people. That's why the West still trades with China, rather than boycott their goods for better human rights. Their profits are more important.

China is 44% cheaper then anywhere else to manufacture, so yes like Ozymandias says profit usurps ppl. Hey let's be realistic spidergoat you buy Chinese made goods, so let's not claim innocence.

You are right I buy Chinese products, and I work for a company that manufactures in China.