My assumption is that he went with this strategy because he didn't have enough money, thus he concentrated on 1 state, Florida and tried to win big there. Except that it is all about delegates, and he hasn't been picking up many, thus way behind.

According to Fow news, even FL doesn't look very good for him anymore. McCain has a lead now and Romney is right behind him. So if this stays, than out of the 54 FL delegates he could only get like 15 the most, which is nothing compared to Romney's 72 as we speak.

His best chances were to try to run as a VP to one of those bigger guys, maybe with McCain. I wonder when will he acknowledge the failure of his strategy?

He won't win. He and McCain both have cancer. They shouldn't even be running. Neither should Thompson.

He won't win. He and McCain both have cancer. They shouldn't even be running. Neither should Thompson.

Yes. Cancer. That's it Sandy.

People obviuosly have little problem anymore with odd diseases: they elected a Vice President with a bum-ticker.

C'mon. You've gotta' be kidding.

~String

What was he ever thinking

I don't think it was a calculation, he just bailed out of the other races when he accepted he had no chance.

Yes.Cancer.That's it Sandy.People obviuosly have little problem anymore with odd diseases: they elected a Vice President with a bum-ticker. C'mon.You've gotta' be kidding. ~String

Do you honestly think a man with cancer should be POTUS? We need a healthy guy who won't be spending any time in the hospital or being sick. We have way too many HUGE problems right now to take any chances on anyone sick--especially with something as serious as cancer.

I'm not so sure many people knew about Uncle Dickie's heart problems when W was first elected.

Do you honestly think a man with cancer should be POTUS? We need a healthy guy who won't be spending any time in the hospital or being sick. We have way too many HUGE problems right now to take any chances on anyone sick--especially with something as serious as cancer.

I'm not so sure many people knew about Uncle Dickie's heart problems when W was first elected.

Nobody knows much about the cancer either. I forget it exists until you bring it up, and I'm sure it's that way for lots of other voters.

Yeah, so now I'm wrong/bad/? for wanting a healthy president. :rolleyes:

Most voters who take the time to research each candidate will find out about the cancer. I'm wondering why McCain is getting a free pass from the media about that golf ball on the left side of his face. Cameramen are only shooting him from his right. Maybe because the liberal media want him to win because they know Hil and Obama can both beat him.

Thompson and Giuliani have cancer too.

Do you honestly think a man with cancer should be POTUS? We need a healthy guy who won't be spending any time in the hospital or being sick. We have way too many HUGE problems right now to take any chances on anyone sick--especially with something as serious as cancer.

Sandy, people get cancer of all shapes and varieties all the time. Vote for the person who will make the difference and who would be best for the country.

I'm not so sure many people knew about Uncle Dickie's heart problems when W was first elected.

No. The media harped on it quite a bit.

~String

Yeah, so now I'm wrong/bad/? for wanting a healthy president. :rolleyes:

Most voters who take the time to research each candidate will find out about the cancer. I'm wondering why McCain is getting a free pass from the media about that golf ball on the left side of his face. Cameramen are only shooting him from his right. Maybe because the liberal media want him to win because they know Hil and Obama can both beat him.

Thompson and Giuliani have cancer too.

Romny is the best chance for a Hillary or Obama victory: too many people will have issues with his religion. McCain is the Republican's best chance.

~String

The latest count of the delegates are:

Romney: 72
McCain: 32
Huckabee: 27
Giuliani: 2

Again, FL has only 57 because of the halving rule, and according to FoxNews McCain is ahead of Rudy and Romney is right behind him. So Rudy can hope only a good 15 delegates, if FL doesn't have the winner take it all system. (I have to check)

One hour later the numbers slightly changed:

Romney: 72
McCain: 38
Huckabee: 29

Romny is the best chance for a Hillary or Obama victory: too many people will have issues with his religion. McCain is the Republican's best chance.

~String

I disagree. Romney is the whole package. Too many people have issues with McCain's liberalism, shamnesty support, cancer, looks, age, etc...

OK, I did a little research and it seems that Rudy is shrewd like a fox.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22718118/

So FL is winner-takes-all. If Rudy manages to win, he would jump to 2nd place in the number of delegates. NY and NJ are also winner-takes-all, where Rudy's chances aren't that bad. Other states are Connecticut, Missouri and Arizona.

Thus he having limited money, has been concentrating on the few big ones (FL and NY) and winning those would boost his standing in the race. Of course it is a gamble, because if he loses just one of those, he will be left way behind....

Oh, the plot thickens!

NJ changed its primary time from June to February last year only AFTER Rudy decided to run for president. Until that NJ was pretty insignifficant, because it was so late that by June usually it was clear who was going to be the candidate. But being a state with 52 delegates and a winner-takes-all method, Rudy can get a 52 delegates boost even with a low, let's say 17% win....

NY and NJ are also winner-takes-all, where Rudy's chances aren't that bad.

But really, his chances aren't that great in those states either. I hope I don't end up eating my words but I don't imagine Giuliani making a comeback. Even in Florida he's not doing that well.

Do you honestly think a man with cancer should be POTUS? We need a healthy guy who won't be spending any time in the hospital or being sick. We have way too many HUGE problems right now to take any chances on anyone sick--especially with something as serious as cancer.

I'm not so sure many people knew about Uncle Dickie's heart problems when W was first elected.

people knew didn't you hear the comments that shouldn't pick a vice president that will out live you

Heh, here's an image made by someone over at ronpaulforums.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1013117&postcount=1
http://lh3.google.com/hondaguy16/R5LKCgqyE7I/AAAAAAAAABg/iu_r4zxOG8Y/s800/rudyfringe.jpg

President Rosilyn had cancer, it all worked out well for her. A little prayer and kamala extract can do wonders.

President Rosilyn had cancer, it all worked out well for her. A little prayer and kamala extract can do wonders.

LOL. Eh... we're not on a renegade fleet trying to outrun thinking machines though (but I agree: the cancer thing is nonsense).

~String

Rudys gone on record as being one of the 'they hate us because were free' crowd.

That kind of idiocy must never make it to any high office.

people knew didn't you hear the comments that shouldn't pick a vice president that will out live you

Well, since I helped run W's campaign I would have known if a lot of people were talking about Uncle Dickie's health. They weren't.

President Rosilyn had cancer, it all worked out well for her. A little prayer and kamala extract can do wonders.

LOL! :D A bit different situation, methinks. :D
We have WAY too much going on here to elect a known cancer victim.

Well, since I helped run W's campaign I would have known if a lot of people were talking about Uncle Dickie's health. They weren't.



LOL! :D A bit different situation, methinks. :D
We have WAY too much going on here to elect a known cancer victim.

hey i knew alot of people were like WTF when cheney was picked all sides of the political spectrum

Uncle Dickie is brilliant. He has been an awesome VP. If he ran for POTUS I would vote for him in a minute. He's very funny too--something I seldom see in the top democrats.

Uncle Dickie is brilliant. He has been an awesome VP. If he ran for POTUS I would vote for him in a minute. He's very funny too--something I seldom see in the top democrats.

you do not know much bout comedy do you cheney isn't really all that funny. cheney would never get elected to potus

you do not know much bout comedy do you cheney isn't really all that funny. cheney would never get elected to potus

Do you know him? Have you ever had dinner with him? He's a one-man party--funnier than most people I know.

Do you know him? Have you ever had dinner with him? He's a one-man party--funnier than most people I know.

well maybe he is very funny to a uber conservative who knows nothing bout comedy but i spent a good portion of my formative years living out side of chicago the comedy capital of the country i know funny. when i see it. and getting back on topic Giuliani cannot win he is running on his anti terrorism record which frankly sucks.

But really, his chances aren't that great in those states either.

Well, it all comes down to simple math. Since there are 4 frontrunners in those states, Rudy could easily win with a let's say 22% of the votes, if the rest is equally divided...
That was the genius behind his campaign. Well, we shall see, the rest is catching up pretty good in Florida, according to polls...

hey i knew alot of people were like WTF when cheney was picked all sides of the political spectrum

He actually picked himself. He was the chairman of the comittee for finding a VP, and guess what? He found a good one!!!

He won't win. He and McCain both have cancer. They shouldn't even be running. Neither should Thompson.
cancer? since when was skin cancer a disqualification for being prez?
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/16/mccain.skin.cancer/index.html

you're just mad your darling Mitt ain't winning, he of the photogenic face, boohooo, tears

Uncle Dickie.he's your Uncs!!!??? that explains it, its genetic


is brilliant. yeah, Iraq was a brilliant move, destabilize the ME, just what he wanted to do, so that him & his buds could get $200 per barrel of oil, it ain't over yet

He has been an awesome VP. you're family, I guess you have to say that

If he ran for POTUS I would vote for him in a minute. I guess thats 5 votes for him, luckily for him, its rigged, he wins

He's very funny too--yeah, he's a riot, but don't get around him when he's had a few & has a gun

something I seldom see in the top democratsnext time you're in California, stop by Nancy Pelosi's office & tell her you want to debate her on the issues, who knows, you may even make it on SNL?

Do you honestly think a man with cancer should be POTUS?

We elected a senile president at least once. And many would argue that we just elected a retarded president twice.

Cancer? Phack. If he dies, he dies. We'll know it's time for him to step down when he's too emaciated hold a pen. Reagan just kept grinning. Bush Jr. just keeps impersonating primates. Neither are nearly the visceral sign that impending cancer death would suggest. And cancer, unlike Reagan's senility and Bush's stupidity, is generally treatable. I mean, really ... it's the president of the United States. Even if it was Rudy, they'd know when he was bleeding out his cock whether he told them or not.

We elected a senile president at least once. And many would argue that we just elected a retarded president twice.you know, now that you have revealed official State Secrets, Jack whats-his-name from "24", is being authorized to get you, you'll never get away with it

Reagan just kept grinning. Bush Jr. just keeps impersonating primates. would that be a chimp? as in that movie with Ronnie?

...many would argue that we just elected a retarded president twice....

Yeah, but Clinton is still pretty popular despite his retardation. He hides it well by being a skank.

Yeah, but Clinton is still pretty popular despite his retardation. He hides it well by being a skank.

And also by being well spoken and not a failure. :D

That's debatable. I like how he pays attention to really important stuff:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212008/news/regionalnews/bill_has_a_dream_474243.htm

:D

Just like this?


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html

:D

Advantage me.

Rudy started to lose his advantage in NY. By the latest polls McCain is ahead:

http://www.mlive.com/elections/national/index.ssf?/base/politics-1/120101957494940.xml&storylist=elections

Name someone other than Dennis and Paul that is running that isn't in the 'they hate us for our freedoms' crowd.

Huneybun, this thread is about Rudy's chances, stay on message please!

According to the latest polls, Rudy slipped to #3 place in Florida, his chances to win are melting away!! We shall see tomorrow...

President Rosilyn had cancer, it all worked out well for her. A little prayer and kamala extract can do wonders.

LOL.
and tom Zarek was Vice President for a while, maybe we can elect someone similar too.

Rudy is trailing so bad, that he might even get passed by Huckabee and ends up in 4th place. Good!!!!

Giuliani's finished. It was a HUGE mistake to abandon the early primaries. He didn't even need to win them, just place in the top three, to have enough momentum to win Florida.

Giuliani never had a chance.

He did have a chance, riding on his (bullshit) reputation as America's Mayor. The problem is that was never enough. It needed to be complemented by traditional campaigning and doing well in the early primaries.

He did have a chance, riding on his (bullshit) reputation as America's Mayor...

I disagree. He's unattractive, has cancer, has too much baggage, is a liberal, got busted dressed in women's clothing, has too many ex-wives, let NY be a sanctuary city etc...

Conservatives never supported him. He didn't have a prayer. Just a lot of hype.

It was a HUGE mistake to abandon the early primaries. He didn't even need to win them, just place in the top three, to have enough momentum to win Florida.

Well, if you have enough money, which he didn't have.

The problem with Rudy that beside being an asshole, he is too liberal for Reps and too republican for liberals, thus he can't find the majority...

Rudy loses big in Florida, only 18%, compared to McCain's 34% and Romney's 30%...

Rudy is dropping out today.

I disagree. He's unattractive,since when did looks have anything to do with being elected, never saw that as a qualification

has cancer,as an American woman, you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting breast cancer, does that disqualify you from higher office?

has too much baggage, since when did anyone come squeaky clean? your man Mitt, had a similar record as gov, but you know those last minute conversions to "mainstream" conservatism before a national election, does the trick every time

is a liberal, you mean "electable republican"

got busted dressed in women's clothing, what? was that to host SNL? or to meet Elton John?

has too many ex-wives, typical American, its called "serial polygamy"

let NY be a sanctuary city etc...thats because the other 1/4th of your Republican party (rich oligarchs), insist on getting cheap labor here (via Mexicans) & cheap labor over there (via Indians, Chinese), that jobs have vanished, blame that on Mitt, Chaney, Walton, Gates, etc...

Conservatives never supported him. thats a feather in his cap

He didn't have a prayer. probably because he didn't pray

Just a lot of hype.agree with you there, 9-11 was all he had

http://changeforronpaul.com/images/fringerudy.jpg

since when did looks have anything to do with being elected, never saw that as a qualification

Qualification? No. Preferable? yes. Have you ever heard of Nixon's 5 o'clock shadow??? The US is a shallow society, so looks are obviously important!!!

As for Hillyer's Ron Paul comparison, Rudy didn't campaign in those states and where he campaigned,(FL) he did beat Paul. Just for the record...

since when did looks have anything to do with being elected, never saw that as a qualification...as an American woman, you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting breast cancer, does that disqualify you from higher office?...since when did anyone come squeaky clean? your man Mitt, had a similar record as gov, but you know those last minute conversions to "mainstream" conservatism before a national election, does the trick every time...you mean "electable republican"...what? was that to host SNL? or to meet Elton John?...typical American, its called "serial polygamy"..thats a feather in his cap...probably because he didn't pray...

We used to elect attractive people. Now with Hillary and possibly McCain, that's no longer true. The liberals will have won because both are pathetic liberals. :(
I'm never getting cancer. No one with cancer should even consider running for POTUS. The most powerful man in the free world should not have ANY health issues.
Mitt was the best choice. If he leaves, we are screwed. Rudy has his nose so far up McCain's pruney old @ss it's sickening. He's drooling for the VP spot. Rudy never had a chance. He's just too weird with too much baggage. (Dressing in drag is idiocy for anyone ever considering political office. Unless you're a democrat.) We will never elect such a freak--especially an adulterer with too many wives. :eek:

Of course he didn't pray. That was his first problem. :(

Campaign is in 2 mill debt. I guess when you spend nights in 4-5K hotels, it ads up eventually:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Giuliani_in_hole_over_campaign_debts_0213.html

Rudy strikes as me as extremely corrupt and dishonest.