Now, I live in the mid-west, heart of the bible belt. Quite frankly I am getting sick and tired of the fundamentalist Christian organizations around here. I can't go anywhere without someone practically shoving Jesus in my face. Seriously... here are some examples from just the past 2 days...

A bilboard went up earlier this month. All is says is "JESUS" in HUGE white letters on a green background. Today I noticed a brand new bilboard about 100ft away from it that says. "Feeling Down? Turn to Jesus". That one was a church advertisement for teh Church of Latter Day Saints. There are many more like that around here. Not too mention that when watching local TV, you cannot go one time through a commercial break without seeing an advertisement for some church. Mostly, they advertise how much they love children, which quite frankly, is not the best message to be sending now-a-days. lol

Last night, two kids from that same church came-a-knockin on my door. Usually they ask if they can have a minute of my time... not this time. They just started rattling off questions without even introducing themselves. Being the courteous individual that I try to be, I listen to them and answered thier questions politely. Heres some of the questions... and my answers.

1) "Do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?"
"Honestly, no. I believe he was a good man, but I do not consider him an idol of worship in my personal views. I believe that he had good morals but was no more or less than any other human being."

2) "Do you attend church on a regular basis? If so which one, and why that one?"
"I do not go to church because I do not share the same beliefs as most do and do not feel that one must go to church in order to be closer to a higher power."

3) "Well, because you don't attend a church, how is your family life? Have you experience much unstableness in your home?"
"No, my family and I are quite happy, thank you."

4) "Have you felt depress lately?"
"No, again, we are very happy as we are."

5) "Do you believe in an afterlife and that those who do not worship our lord Jesus Christ will suffer in an eternity in a realm of fire?"
"Um... I do believe in the possibility of an afterlife. I do not believe in Jesus as a savior, but I do believe in a higher power. As for heaven and hell, I choose not to believe in such things."

6) "Would you be interested if I told you that our church has a real-life prophet in our midst and that these days are the end-days recalled from Revalations and that judgement is upon us, and that this prophet has been sent directly from God to save the souls of you and your family as well as others?"
"No."

7) "Ok.... Well would you like to take this pamphlet that covers in detail what I've discussed this evening? It also discusses our church and why we think you would fit in and make some great friends along the way. And if you do register with our church you will recieve a free bible from the Church of Latter Day Saints."
"No thank you. Again, I am happy where I stand."

They seemed almost shocked and then shook my hand and thanked me for my time etc etc.

Now, the first few questions were fine. But I started to get a bit irritated by the third question. When someone starts poking at my personal life, I tend to get a bit... angry. Then by the 5th question, it just started getting rediculous.

Here is another example...

The other day I was driving toward the mall when I see about 200-300 people from a local church standing on the side of the road holding signs that said things like...
"God hates dead babies"
"Abortion is Murder"
"Gays = Sin = Hell"
And my oh so favorite ones...
"God Hates Liberals"
"Homosexuality is a Disease"

They got a nice finger as I drove past.

I have no problem with people believing WHATEVER they want to believe in, but I do have a major problem when people shove thier beliefs in my face unwantedly.

We are planning to move within the next year. Our goal is to be completely out of here by October of 2008.

What state is that?

What state is that?It's a state of delusion.:)

Now, I live in the mid-west, heart of the bible belt. Quite frankly I am getting sick and tired of the fundamentalist Christian organizations around here. I can't go anywhere without someone practically shoving Jesus in my face. Seriously... here are some examples from just the past 2 days...

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dude i live in the deep south trust you have it easy i moved from the midwest

but I do have a major problem when people shove thier beliefs in my face unwantedly.


Perhaps I just don't see your problem. You say they are "shoving" it in your face by seeing a billboard (you can always stay inside your home and not see it until you leave so that can't be such a big deal),

people protesting peacefully (which people anywhere can do by law and I'm certain they are not protesting everyday of every week and if so you could just go another way around them I'm sure),

people knocking on your door (which you didn't have to answer BTW),

watching TV commercials (which I use a remote and switch it to another channel when a commercial comes on of any type)

and answetring questions that someone asks you ( again which you didn't have to do unless you choose to do so).

So it would seem that the problems you have are mostly you not being able to handle day to day living that well where you live. In that case you are correct in moving but not because others are doing what they want to do but because they are not doing what you want them to do.

Thankfully my annoyance with fundamentalists is based on less direct contact (although I'm still disturbed by their influence in national politics).

The only proselytizing I've seen in my neighborhood recently is from Sukyo Mahikari (a Japanese cult who's prophet was a Col. who oversaw the Rape of Nanking & who believe in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion) and they were only handing out business cards in a very polite manner.

Perhaps I just don't see your problem. You say they are "shoving" it in your face by seeing a billboard (you can always stay inside your home and not see it until you leave so that can't be such a big deal),

A billboard must be passed by your local government. That alone implies it is an imposition on the community at large.


people protesting peacefully (which people anywhere can do by law and I'm certain they are not protesting everyday of every week and if so you could just go another way around them I'm sure),

Again, this peaceful protest must be authorized (here it's by the Commissioner of Police...not sure who does in the US). However, this again implies that the activity will be an imposition with the potential for violence.


people knocking on your door (which you didn't have to answer BTW),


Well, once in a while may not be annoying, but I've come across some very persistent Jehovah's Witnesses. At the point where my house was not quite finished (actually the house was done, the fence was not)...the JWs stood at the edge of the driveway and caterwalled for an answer. Of course, like you said, I refused to answer and continued watching "The Nanny".

They had the gall to walk up my driveway, cross the lawn and knock on THE BAY WINDOW for me to answer...

Side point, but I was just illustrating that sometimes a knock can be very annoying and inconvenient.


watching TV commercials (which I use a remote and switch it to another channel when a commercial comes on of any type)

Promote carpal tunnel why don't you :)

Seriously, we all know how annoying commercials are. Side point...since when do churches have enough money to afford TV time? Are their congregations giving them enough of their salaries you think?


and answetring questions that someone asks you ( again which you didn't have to do unless you choose to do so).

THIS one I agree with, in my earlier example I simply sent the JWs on their way.


So it would seem that the problems you have are mostly you not being able to handle day to day living that well where you live.

Catalyzed by the behaviour of others.


In that case you are correct in moving but not because others are doing what they want to do but because they are not doing what you want them to do.

Yes, that's usually the way to defeat a sheeple collective. Avoidance.

I think you're just being difficult here. There is a point when the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. And sometimes that point is called 'stupid'. Which is what the US' bible belt is all about.

I think you're just being difficult here. There is a point when the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. And sometimes that point is called 'stupid'. Which is what the US' bible belt is all about.

Then why did you move there or were you born there? It would seem that if you knew the problem existed then why move to a place where you wouldn't want to be? I'm not trying to be difficult but only pointing out ways that you can avoid the problems that you encounter. I did't realize that a billboard had to be approved by the government. Is it that the actuall billboard has to be approved or just what is put on it for display needed approval?

When my wife and I are driving through parts of the States we have a game of pointing out Jesus stuff.... churches, signs, roadside markers...anything. Sometimes we'll turn on the radio and listen to the rants of Hate mongering Christans getting off on how God drowned babies in a flood, is roasting folks in Hell and similar sadistic practices. They even boast about raising the dead and zombie armies fighting for Satan. I've always like movies and books about zombies....they can't walk that fast but their determination makes up for other character flaws like flesh eating. God might smote a zombie like he kills millions of women and children but the zombie gets back up and keeps on ticking.

Then why did you move there or were you born there? It would seem that if you knew the problem existed then why move to a place where you wouldn't want to be? I'm not trying to be difficult but only pointing out ways that you can avoid the problems that you encounter.

Move where? I'm not in the bible belt; actually, i'm not in the US at all :)...My area isn't plagued by much mobile evangelism. But like the US, much of the population is entombed in some sort of theist belief or the other.


I did't realize that a billboard had to be approved by the government. Is it that the actuall billboard has to be approved or just what is put on it for display needed approval?

Any billboard. All billboards are an "inconvenience" and have environmental impacts...that's why they are regulated. People actually pay licensing for billboards. The content of the billboard is almost a formality, just censored for the obvious (minority slurs, treasonous content etc).

And they have to be approved by local government (Mayor's office etc). Your Federal government won't be mired in such minutiae.

Thankfully my annoyance with fundamentalists is based on less direct contact (although I'm still disturbed by their influence in national politics).

The only proselytizing I've seen in my neighborhood recently is from Sukyo Mahikari (a Japanese cult who's prophet was a Col. who oversaw the Rape of Nanking & who believe in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion) and they were only handing out business cards in a very polite manner.

Eh?

Non-believers can run but they can not hide. We're out here in droves. God wants you back and He's sending people to get you. Ignore them all you want. Hopefully you'll get it before you die so you don't have to burn in hell. :xctd:

If no one's holding a knife to my throat, it doesn't bother me. I have to put up with all kinds of roadside ads anyway for that much crasser philosophy, capitalism. 'Nuff said.

Non-believers can run but they can not hide. We're out here in droves. God wants you back and He's sending people to get you. Ignore them all you want. Hopefully you'll get it before you die so you don't have to burn in hell. :xctd:

She's back! Lol who knew...

Yeah, but not for long. :(

...A bilboard went up earlier this month. ....when watching local TV, you cannot go one time through a commercial break without seeing an advertisement for some church. ....


I understand them coming to your door can be annoying, but commercials and billboards? (I think I'm more tired of all the weight loss ones.) They have to get people to come to church somehow. And if they don't use signs/commercials, they are gonna come to your house in person.

If you wanted, couldn't you go get a billboard and commercial for yourself?

If you think thats bad wait till you go to Hell.

I dont believe this story by MZ3Boy84 anyway.

sandy,

Non-believers can run but they can not hide. We're out here in droves. God wants you back and He's sending people to get you. Ignore them all you want. Hopefully you'll get it before you die so you don't have to burn in hell. Ahh an excellent example of a terrorist organization - do what we say or we will torture you for eternity.

I seem to recall that somewhere in that seething mess known as Christianity there was a subtle and attractive message - love your neighbor. It seems to have been lost.

Nope. Not even close. You get to choose God or hell. We don't torture you when you go to hell. You get to burn with your chosen father, satan. :eek:

Love your neighbor is fine but it's not enough. You have to be "saved" if you want to go to Heaven. That's where God's kids will be. satan's kids will be with him in hell. :eek:

She's lying, hell is a big party. With a Ferrari cake.

LOL!:D I remember that episode. Satan was funny. So was Saddam. :D

Nope. Not even close. You get to choose God or hell. We don't torture you when you go to hell. You get to burn with your chosen father, satan. :eek:

Maybe I misunderstood biology, but I thought I didn't really have a choice who my dad is.

At any rate...what you've posted is tantamount to your god saying "choose me! what's a little blackmail going to hurt?"


Love your neighbor is fine but it's not enough. You have to be "saved" if you want to go to Heaven. That's where God's kids will be. satan's kids will be with him in hell. :eek:

Saved from what? Earth doesn't appear to be at all bad, except for all the nutty people talking about blackmail and brimstone all over the place.

You get to choose your spiritual father: God/Jesus or satan.

Saved from hell. You think it's funny? You think it's a big party? Nope, it's hell.
Those nutty people are doing His work getting His people back to Him. You want to reject him? Go ahead. Just don't be surprised when you're left behind.:eek::(

You get to choose your spiritual father: God/Jesus or satan.

Saved from hell. You think it's funny? You think it's a big party? Nope, it's hell.
Those nutty people are doing His work getting His people back to Him. You want to reject him? Go ahead. Just don't be surprised when you're left behind.:eek::(

Fred Phelps couldn't have said it better himself.

Good to have you back Sandy ;)

You dont want to be part of the left behind crowd. Actually the right reverend Joel Osteen is a pretty inspiring minister of the gospel. Unfortunately, I think the message of Christ has been to often hijacked by those more interested in financial and political power than the Gospel. The more converts, the more money and political power.

You get to choose your spiritual father: God/Jesus or satan.

Saved from hell. You think it's funny? You think it's a big party? Nope, it's hell.
Those nutty people are doing His work getting His people back to Him. You want to reject him? Go ahead. Just don't be surprised when you're left behind.:eek::(

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Sandy,

Nope. Not even close. You get to choose God or hell.Clearly Buddhism is superior to Christianity then since one does not have to make such a choice.

We don't torture you when you go to hell. You get to burn with your chosen father, satan. Ahh so burning for eternity is not torture, hmm OK.

Love your neighbor is fine but it's not enough. Of course not, that would be a reasonable approach, and after all we are talking religion here.

You have to be "saved" if you want to go to Heaven.Saved from a design error that God introduced deliberately so that he could kill billions of others because of his love. Obviously quite reasonable for religion.

That's where God's kids will be. satan's kids will be with him in hell.Christianity is a curious polytheistic religion, with a god who is meant to be good and loving but threatens people with death, and another who welcomes anyone who exercises reason. It’s somewhat confusing to tell who is really the good god or the bad god in your religion.

Eh?

My reaction was more like WTF? when I read about them after they handed me their business card.

That's crazy. That's a nine of a possible ten on crazy. Most impressive.

Christianity is a curious polytheistic religion, with a god who is meant to be good and loving but threatens people with death, and another who welcomes anyone who exercises reason. It’s somewhat confusing to tell who is really the good god or the bad god in your religion.

Christianity's God is Reason Incarnate, offering those who are already 'dead' a chance to live...only the unreasonable reject Him and the Life He offers.

I get tired of atheistic fundamentalists

They're very intolerant...

I get tired of atheistic fundamentalists

They're very intolerant...

And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Photizo,

Christianity's God is Reason Incarnate, offering those who are already 'dead' a chance to live...only the unreasonable reject Him and the Life He offers.Just a few basic problems there -

1. Reason (logic) depends on facts and there are none to support your assertions. You fail at the starting point.

2. No one has yet shown in the entire history of mankind that gods can exist let alone do exist. Without the fact of a god's existence you cannot make any claims to reason.

3. Dead means you no longer exist. There is no fact and no discovery in human history that shows that anyone can or could survive death. Your claim to reason fails yet again.

4. Religion is based on faith and often religions are referred to as faiths. Faith is simply the belief in the certainty of something without evidence or proof. This is the opposite of reason and logic that specifically require facts. You do not again have any support for your claims to reason.

5. If there were any facts to support Christianity why is faith stressed? If there were even the tiniest fact I am certain that the religious leaders would pounce on it as the proof and evidence they so desperately need to support their irrational position.

BTW For those of you that asked, we are moving to San Diego.

And no, I did not choose to live here. I was stationed here by the Air Force, now that I am out of the military, there is nothing holding us here except financial resources, which is why we are waiting for atleast 8-12 months so we can save some change so the move won't be as hard of a hit on our bank accounts.

For John99 who said he doesn't believe me...
Where do YOU live? Please... come visit me here on the IL/MO border. You'll see just how bad it gets.

Keep in mind, I've lived in the south for most of my life, if you concider Houston Texas the south. And the extremist religious groups were not NEARLY this active down there. We concidered moving back to Houston but decided San Diego would be a much better option.

Photizo,

Just a few basic problems there -

No problems in what I said. Any "problems" are on your end.

Photizo,

No problems in what I said. Any "problems" are on your end.Pity that you again are unable to respond in an approrpate reasoned manner and attempt to justify your unsupported assertions.

Photizo,

Pity that you again are unable to respond in an approrpate reasoned manner and attempt to justify your unsupported assertions.

I'm not 'here' to reason with you or to justify my comments.

I'm not 'here' to reason with you or to justify my comments.

Isnt that what a debate is?

Isnt that what a debate is?

I'm not here to debate, either.

I didn't think this was a debate at all, just more or less expressing my views and recent experiences.

So why is it ok for an actor, athlete, businessman etc to be rich, but not for a man who devotes his life to God? God wants us prosperous, not a bunch of losers. The more you make, the more you can donate to getting people saved. It's a wonderful life! :yay:

So why is it ok for an actor, athlete, businessman etc to be rich, but not for a man who devotes his life to God?
Because "its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." -Jesus (Matthew 19:24)

So why is it ok for an actor, athlete, businessman etc to be rich, but not for a man who devotes his life to God? God wants us prosperous, not a bunch of losers. The more you make, the more you can donate to getting people saved. It's a wonderful life! :yay:

I agree, money is not the root of evil, the love of money is, its like Ayn Rand says "So you say money is the root of all evil? Have you ever asked yourself what is root of all money?"

There's no reason you can't be rich and devote your life to God, in fact the richer one will be able to help more people and benefit many in our society today (though in the past it might have been different)

Because "its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter heaven." -Jesus

Jesus was referring to the attachment the rich man had on his possessions, the rich man did want to renounce the world and come with Jesus

For a rich man who is attached to his possessions, it's just what Jesus says

God wants you back and He's sending people to get you. Ignore them all you want. Hopefully you'll get it before you die so you don't have to burn in hell.

But God doesn't want babies, it seems. According to the billboard:

"God hates dead babies"

Hmm...

God hates baby-killing (abortion.) :(

Just don't be surprised when you're left behind.:eek::(

I am guessing God does not follow the US defence force belief of 'leave no man behind' then?

But God doesn't want babies, it seems. According to the billboard:
No James. The babies need to grow up and "be saved" before they are wanted by God.:p

God hates baby-killing (abortion.)

I don't recall anything about that in the bible.

For a rich man who is attached to his possessions, it's just what Jesus says And the odds of a rich man not being attached to his possessions are pretty small. That's why Jesus said that about the camel and the needle's eye. He also warned: "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust corrupt, where thieves break in and steal - - - - because where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

He was right about that, IMHO. A rich man will be attached to his possessions.

There is nothing in the Bible more strongly questioned than the accumulation of wealth - especially through interest on money. I've never been able to figure out how a Biblical literalist can even have a savings account, let alone own a bank.

And one has to wonder about someone becoming rich through "devoting their life to God" - how did that happen? Skimming a bit extra off the collection plate, would be the first guess.

Fundies just don't make sense in what they say. They make a little more sense in waht they do, though.

God loves babies and owns them until they are the age of reason (usually around 12 or so.) Then they can choose God or not.

http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq340.html

How many babies is it OK to kill when we bomb Iran?

We're not going after babies. We're going after their nuke facility(-ies). They'll be warned just like Iraq was.

Found this... it was a letter to some Evangelist Group.

"You are really convinced that you've got all the answers. You've really got yourself tricked into believing that you're 100% right. Well, let me tell you just one thing. Do you consider yourself to be compassionate of other humans? If you're right, as you say you are, and you believe that, then how can you sleep at night? When you speak with me, you are speaking with someone who you believe is walking directly into eternal damnation, into an endless onslaught of horrendous pain which your 'loving' god created, yet you stand by and do nothing.

If you believed one bit that thousands every day were falling into an eternal and unchangeable fate, you should be running the streets mad with rage at their blindness. That's equivalent to standing on a street corner and watching every person that passes you walk blindly directly into the path of a bus and die, yet you stand idly by and do nothing. You're just twiddling your thumbs, happy in the knowledge that one day that 'walk' signal will shine your way across the road.

Think about it. Imagine the horrors Hell must have in store if the Bible is true. You're just going to allow that to happen and not care about saving anyone but yourself? If you're right then you're an uncaring, unemotional and purely selfish (expletive) that has no right to talk about subjects such as love and caring."

He states a good point when he highlights the ironies of a how they say they have unconditional love for others yet are quick to hate.

We're not going after babies. We're going after their nuke facility(-ies). They'll be warned just like Iraq was.

I really hope your not serious. :bugeye:

We're not going after babies. We're going after their nuke facility(-ies). They'll be warned just like Iraq was.So the dead babies, and juveniles, and teenagers, and innocent civilians will merely be an unforunate side effect of the US protecting its own citizens. Is that your position?

Just reminds me of an old quote....

Gods dont kill people. People with Gods kill people.

:roflmao:

http://loltheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/apocalypsepowers-activate.jpg

In India, Christian orgs lay near temples for "prey" who had come to pray and try to brainwash people coming out of the temples, with pamphlets, bibles and freebies.
And they don't do this near mosques or they will need the saviour right away.

One last quote that fits perfectly with this topic...

God is either cruel or incompetent. - Woody Allen

God loves babies and owns them until they are the age of reason (usually around 12 or so.) Then they can choose God or not.

http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq340.html
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M*W: The mother owns her own body. Babies are parasites.

an unfortunate side effect of the US protecting its own citizens.
Your supposed to say..." protecting our freedoms"!

Remember, they hate us because we're free. :bugeye:

Now, I live in the mid-west, heart of the bible belt. Quite frankly I am getting sick and tired of the fundamentalist Christian organizations around here. I can't go anywhere without someone practically shoving Jesus in my face. Seriously... here are some examples from just the past 2 days...

A bilboard went up earlier this month. All is says is "JESUS" in HUGE white letters on a green background. Today I noticed a brand new bilboard about 100ft away from it that says. "Feeling Down? Turn to Jesus". That one was a church advertisement for teh Church of Latter Day Saints. There are many more like that around here. Not too mention that when watching local TV, you cannot go one time through a commercial break without seeing an advertisement for some church. Mostly, they advertise how much they love children, which quite frankly, is not the best message to be sending now-a-days. lol

Last night, two kids from that same church came-a-knockin on my door. Usually they ask if they can have a minute of my time... not this time. They just started rattling off questions without even introducing themselves. Being the courteous individual that I try to be, I listen to them and answered thier questions politely. Heres some of the questions... and my answers.

1) "Do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?"
"Honestly, no. I believe he was a good man, but I do not consider him an idol of worship in my personal views. I believe that he had good morals but was no more or less than any other human being."

2) "Do you attend church on a regular basis? If so which one, and why that one?"
"I do not go to church because I do not share the same beliefs as most do and do not feel that one must go to church in order to be closer to a higher power."

3) "Well, because you don't attend a church, how is your family life? Have you experience much unstableness in your home?"
"No, my family and I are quite happy, thank you."

4) "Have you felt depress lately?"
"No, again, we are very happy as we are."

5) "Do you believe in an afterlife and that those who do not worship our lord Jesus Christ will suffer in an eternity in a realm of fire?"
"Um... I do believe in the possibility of an afterlife. I do not believe in Jesus as a savior, but I do believe in a higher power. As for heaven and hell, I choose not to believe in such things."

6) "Would you be interested if I told you that our church has a real-life prophet in our midst and that these days are the end-days recalled from Revalations and that judgement is upon us, and that this prophet has been sent directly from God to save the souls of you and your family as well as others?"
"No."

7) "Ok.... Well would you like to take this pamphlet that covers in detail what I've discussed this evening? It also discusses our church and why we think you would fit in and make some great friends along the way. And if you do register with our church you will recieve a free bible from the Church of Latter Day Saints."
"No thank you. Again, I am happy where I stand."

They seemed almost shocked and then shook my hand and thanked me for my time etc etc.

Now, the first few questions were fine. But I started to get a bit irritated by the third question. When someone starts poking at my personal life, I tend to get a bit... angry. Then by the 5th question, it just started getting rediculous.

Here is another example...

The other day I was driving toward the mall when I see about 200-300 people from a local church standing on the side of the road holding signs that said things like...
"God hates dead babies"
"Abortion is Murder"
"Gays = Sin = Hell"
And my oh so favorite ones...
"God Hates Liberals"
"Homosexuality is a Disease"

They got a nice finger as I drove past.

I have no problem with people believing WHATEVER they want to believe in, but I do have a major problem when people shove thier beliefs in my face unwantedly.

We are planning to move within the next year. Our goal is to be completely out of here by October of 2008.

my dad came up with a way for dealing with these people when they ask you if you believe in god you ask them how many and which ones

So why is it ok for an actor, athlete, businessman etc to be rich, but not for a man who devotes his life to God? God wants us prosperous, not a bunch of losers. The more you make, the more you can donate to getting people saved. It's a wonderful life! :yay:

maybe its because i don't jesus taught that it is hard for the rich to get into heaven he believe the poor were more holy

I agree, money is not the root of evil, the love of money is, its like Ayn Rand says "So you say money is the root of all evil? Have you ever asked yourself what is root of all money?"

There's no reason you can't be rich and devote your life to God, in fact the richer one will be able to help more people and benefit many in our society today (though in the past it might have been different)

the quote is corrupted the true quote is the love of money is the root of all evil

the quote is corrupted the true quote is the love of money is the root of all evil
Right, it comes from Timothy 6:10

the quote is corrupted the true quote is the love of money is the root of all evil

Uhm...the quote isn't corrupted, thats really what Ayn Rand says...wtf are you talking about? I never said Ayn Rand says the love of money is evil...

:rolleyes:

Try harder

VitalOne, I think you may be suffering from the expectation that all posters understand clear statements all of the time. My experience has led me to understand this is not true.

Uhm...the quote isn't corrupted, thats really what Ayn Rand says...wtf are you talking about? I never said Ayn Rand says the love of money is evil...

:rolleyes:

Try harder

she is quoting something else and her quote from that is corrupted. i believe some one said it was from timothy 6:10 many people have said the line money is the root of all evil but that is corrupted from the love of money is the root of all evil. when she said money was the root of all evil that is not the quote but it is usually quoted as such and i provided the true quote. all i was saying was here quote is based of a corruption of a phrase i believe my intent was well understood by all except for you

she is quoting something else and her quote from that is corrupted. i believe some one said it was from timothy 6:10 many people have said the line money is the root of all evil but that is corrupted from the love of money is the root of all evil. when she said money was the root of all evil that is not the quote but it is usually quoted as such and i provided the true quote. all i was saying was here quote is based of a corruption of a phrase i believe my intent was well understood by all except for you

What are you talking about? No one said money is the root of all evil...you're making shit up

What quote are you talking about? If you mean Ayn Rand, she was talking about how people commonly say "money is the root of all evil", she never said the Bible says money is the root of all evil

i mention that the true quote is the love of money is the root of all evil and someelse said that it is quoted from timothy 6:10

Well if some rich Christian really wants to use their wealth to save me I'm available for about $150,000. :tempted:

God hates baby-killing

Except for when he does it?

He doesn't kill babies. People do. :(

Didnt he kill a lot of people in the Bible?

He doesn't kill babies. People do. :(

My Mom had a miscarriage once. I would have had a brother or sister if God didn't take it away. :(

My Mom had a miscarriage once. I would have had a brother or sister if God didn't take it away. :(

The process is not 100% perfect.

God must be imperfect.

A little roundup here:

Found this... it was a letter to some Evangelist Group...

Think about it. Imagine the horrors Hell must have in store if the Bible is true. You're just going to allow that to happen and not care about saving anyone but yourself? If you're right then you're an uncaring, unemotional and purely selfish (expletive) that has no right to talk about subjects such as love and caring."

He states a good point when he highlights the ironies of a how they say they have unconditional love for others yet are quick to hate.

Uhh...I thought we were supposed to get all pissed off if the religious types got up in our faces? Which is we're supposed to want, then?

In India, Christian orgs lay near temples for "prey" who had come to pray and try to brainwash people coming out of the temples, with pamphlets, bibles and freebies.
And they don't do this near mosques or they will need the saviour right away.

Says a lot.

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M*W: The mother owns her own body. Babies are parasites.

You cannot be serious.

God must be imperfect.

Creation was perfect.

Looks like this topic has worn itself out.

A lady told me "God bless you" to which I responded, "God bless you, thank you."

She then asked where I was going to church, and I responded that I have been attending Buddhist Temple and I am very happy, thank you.

"Buddhism is a cult."

I then informed her that my temple cooperates with a local Christian church and internationally with the Roman Catholic Church (moreso under John Paul II).

"Have you researched the Catholics and what they do?"

"Yes, I have. The Church at large is not perfect, and I was disappointed in the selection of Paul II's successor, but I am also aware that the International Catholic mission efforts are among the largest and most successful in the world."

"Well, look into the Baptist mission work!"

"I have, and I respect them as well, but they, like the RCC, are not perfect."


It's this simple: fundamentalists are stupid, ignorant or both.

...oh before I go, she also told me the Earth is 3,000 years old.