Explain it to me, diversity. I don’t get it?

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Apartness.shtml

Genetically, diversity increases the health of the gene pool.

Genetically, diversity increases the health of the gene pool.
Says you.

Real mature.

Real mature.
Do you have ANY proof that:

"Genetically, diversity increases the health of the gene pool".

or not?

Genetically, diversity increases the health of the gene pool.

Interesting. Which "gene pool"?

I would agree with you in one direction, but I ain't so sure about the other. Can you clarify your remark a bit more for me?

Baron Max

This guy - "fredoneverything" - is a perfect example of someone who learns a little about computers and thens just starts posting anything he wants. It's the exact same thing as receiving junk mail: delete it quickly and don't waste your time reading it. He's just one person posting his own individual ramblings. In this case, he calls it "Fred's Column." If I start a website and call it "valichoneverthing" with a website titled "Valich's Column," would you do me the undeserved honor of starting an equal thread?

In his context, he's referring to "diversity" as meaning ethnic variations among different country and cultures.

on the contrary, i think diversity is the only way for something to exist. Everything in this universe is different, if only slightly.

Define what you mean by diversity. "Ethinic" diversity - as our world becomes more globalized through international travel and relations, isn't this reducing? "Species" diversity - then your talking biology and genetics. "Political" diversity - the United States is leading the way towards Democracy and Capitalism with the downfall in Fascism and Communism.

Diversity is what you perceive as difference. You can always view and treat people as equals. Southerns and yankees? Remove the labels and consider themselves as americans and the diversity is gone.

Diversity is what you perceive as difference. You can always view and treat people as equals. Southerns and yankees? Remove the labels and consider themselves as americans and the diversity is gone.
so if i stop calling them hicks then they won't talk in a southern drawl anymore?

Diversity is what you perceive as difference. You can always view and treat people as equals.

But people aren't equal, why should they be treated as equals? I don't understand that attitude (or idiotic ideal). There are stupid people, fat people, arrogant people, wimpy people, shy people, atheletic people, ugly people, goodlooking people, smart people, ......and the list goes on.

So since they're all different, why should we treat them the same? And more to the point, HOW can we treat them the same? Should we all put out our eyes so we can't see the differences? Should we poke out our ears so we can't hear how stupid they are?

Idealists just drive me fuckin' crazy with their idiotic statements!!! They simply have no working knowledge of the reality of the world or of humans! Damn, how could anyone be so fuckin' stupid as to completely ignore reality?

Baron Max

Interesting. Which "gene pool"?

The gene pool of a species.

But people aren't equal, why should they be treated as equals? I don't understand that attitude (or idiotic ideal).

People should have the same rights. Treating them equally isn't necessary as long as you don't interfer with their rights. Hence you don't have to french kiss an elderly frenchman with garlic infested moustache, but you may perform this act with a busty blonde. Or vice versa.

I think we went through the motions of this topic already once before.

People should have the same rights. Treating them equally isn't necessary as long as you don't interfer with their rights.

Great! And thanks! Now I can hate fat people, ugly people, stupid people, smart people, black people, brown people, red people, yellow people AND white people. And I can treat them in any way I want ...as long as I don't interfere with their legal rights.

So ...does that mean that from now on, there'll be no censorship if we start using derogatory terms for the above people? ...and say anything that we want about them without recourse, like being banned? And J.B. can continue to post his website info about blacks?

Oooooooh, this is gonna' be fun! :)

Baron Max

one day everyone will be the same race.....Think about all the interacial couples and kids...Eventually it will happen but we will most likely not be around.....

people=shit

so if i stop calling them hicks then they won't talk in a southern drawl anymore?

No, but the tension/hostility between the two labeled groups can be resolved.

No, but the tension/hostility between the two labeled groups can be resolved.

That's a pretty simplistic and fantasy-based statement, ain't it?

I mean, the very reason the name-calling started was because of unresolved issues between the two. What makes you think that just stopping the name-calling will somehow make those differences any easier to resolve? And more to the point, what makes you think they even WANT to resolve those differences?

Baron Max

So ...does that mean that from now on, there'll be no censorship if we start using derogatory terms for the above people? ...and say anything that we want about them without recourse, like being banned? And J.B. can continue to post his website info about blacks?


No, because you would interfer with there rights.

You are probably refering to 'freedom' of speech'. You have to keep in mind that freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. Moreover, this is not america. Even if freedom of america means you can be a racist, this is not the same in other countries with freedom of speech. There racist speech and writing is actually illegal because it interfers with the right that everybody has equal rights.

60 years ago you could go out on the street and lynch a black man with impunity in the right state. American law hasn't really changed since then, but nowadays you might have to go to court for that. In some states you might only get a fine (sarcasm), but in other states you will be looking forward to some serious jailtime. That is because a black person has the same rights as you have. It's not a dog, or a piece of furniture.

Obviously you could go and fill this forum with racist crap. But sooner or later someone will complain about it. They would feel they were not treated equally. Their rights are being violated. And obviously racism isn't about assigning similar rights to everybody. Because with rights there has to be respect. If everybody is equal you are not free to do whatever you want to do. You would be free to do whatever you do if you were a king (or president of the USA it seems). But then not everybody has equal rights.

What does it mean:

Both you and your neighbour have the right to pay the same amount of taxes if you have the same income. You don't have to pay more because you are white. However, society has decided that single people pay more taxes than married. But all single people pay more taxes.

Can you see a pattern in this?

Do you have ANY proof that:

"Genetically, diversity increases the health of the gene pool".

or not?
what kind of proof do you want? imo genetic diversity is healthy for human race. would you want 9 billion people just like you? or like me?

What diminishes genetic diversity? Inbreeding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding

'An inbred individual is likely to possess several physical and health defects, in addition to higher incidence of inheriting a poor trait. They include:

* reduced fertility both in litter size and in sperm viability
* increased congenital defects
* fluctuating facial asymmetry
* lower birth rate
* higher neo-natal mortality
* slower growth rate
* smaller adult size, and
* loss of immune system function.'

i think we should all get naked and lay in a pile. diversify!

And more to the point, what makes you think they even WANT to resolve those differences?

Its because people just cannot let go. They all carry a self-imposed label and sometimes bear racial, political, historical burdens for no reasons.

That's a pretty simplistic and fantasy-based statement, ain't it?


"You may say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one." :m:

I've been to the gene pool.

I almost drowned in chromosomal decay and genetic filth.

Somebody’s gotta clean that mess up.
‘Cause the gene pool is turning into a cesspool.

The gene pool life guards were no help.
They tried to rape me in my incapacitated state.

The problem is when you clean the genepool you have to empty it first. All the dirt gets concentrated in that puddle that is left. You don't want to sit in that.

And then you discover you don't have clean water left to fill the genepool again.

The problem is when you clean the genepool you have to empty it first. All the dirt gets concentrated in that puddle that is left. You don't want to sit in that.

And then you discover you don't have clean water left to fill the genepool again.Good point.
A way must be found to filter the gene pool muck without emptying it first.
Either that or a pure source of water must be found beforehand.

Alls I know is that I’m still coughing up sperm from that incident.
Salty….but nice.

What diminishes genetic diversity? Inbreeding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding

'An inbred individual is likely to possess several physical and health defects, in addition to higher incidence of inheriting a poor trait. They include:

* reduced fertility both in litter size and in sperm viability
* increased congenital defects
* fluctuating facial asymmetry
* lower birth rate
* higher neo-natal mortality
* slower growth rate
* smaller adult size, and
* loss of immune system function.'

Yes, look at the cheetah populations ... it's a pitty. Such magnificent animals, fucking their way towards dead.
Yet, according to punctuated-equilibrium, such small groups inbreeding caused the major genetic changes in species ... needless to say that Gould is full of BS.

No, inbreeding can cause changes. But inbreeding is also dangerous. Hence the problems with cheetas, pandas and racists (kidding).

And Jews.....

what kind of proof do you want? imo genetic diversity is healthy for human race. would you want 9 billion people just like you? or like me?
Blacks have much better genes when it comes to being able to jump high.

Would not the genes blacks have for jumping high decrease if they mated with Asian's?

No, inbreeding can cause changes. But inbreeding is also dangerous. Hence the problems with cheetas, pandas and racists (kidding).

It shows no positive change in the present. Jews here in Antwerp are weak people because of their inbreeding. So why would it have done miracles in the past? i'm puzzled