Has anyone else heard whispers about this?

No, but I'm interested. What do you know ?

Yeah its in the pipeline at the moment. Probably see it around 3-4 years time.

Has anyone else heard whispers about this?

Nope, and I doubt if there's any such research going on in ANY country.

i doubt it would be possible

I guess it would involve genetically engineered retroviruses ?
I'm not sure how one could target a specific group of people with that though.

terrorists could make a virus that targets fat people.

terrorists could make a virus that targets fat people.

We should make a virus that targets ALL people.

We should make a virus that targets alive people.

We should make a virus that targets alive people.

Yea, that's what I meant.. :rolleyes:

We should make a virus that targets ALL people.

that's impossible. don't troll.

that's impossible. don't troll.

If it's possible it should be done, and as soon as possible.

well, it isn't possible.

you cannot make a virus that kills all people.

It's IMPOSSIBLE.

you should make one that kills all fat people.

well, it isn't possible.

you cannot make a virus that kills all people.

It's IMPOSSIBLE.

you should make one that kills all fat people.

Then we make one that makes all people fat, THEN deploy the one that kills all fat people :D

Then we make one that makes all people fat, THEN deploy the one that kills all fat people

:eek::eek::eek:

:eek::eek::eek:

I guess you aren't in then.. ? I need someone with your expertise.

We should make a virus that targets ALL people.

They have one already that's just about that good - anthrax. And they could easily mass produce Ebola.

They have one already that's just about that good - anthrax. And they could easily mass produce Ebola.

And exclude the rest of life of course.. we need something that targets human DNA.

And exclude the rest of life of course.. we need something that targets human DNA.

Well, if I had my wish, they'd develop one specifically for two groups of people who post on public forums - those with an IQ clearly under 75 and all woo-woo conspiracy nuts. (Of course there's a fair amount of overlap there.) :D

Oh - and let's not forget those who've dealt directly with space aliens and the ones who've met Bigfoot face to face (but they probably fall into that first group anyway). ;)

No, but I'm interested. What do you know ?

I've heard rich white people might be working on it and its making China nervous. Wondering how it would work. We know some people are more succeptible to different diseases like blacks and sickle cell anemia. Maybe its along that track.

what we can do is, mark people we want to isolate by having specific chemical marker molecules inside their bodies...the chemical markers can be distributed by food supply and perhaps activated by presence in the body of melatonin or other chemicals. Than after marker is put down, we can introduce genetic weapon, using shell of a retrovirus but with a RNA inside that has an ability to activate in presence of those chemical markers only. So basically genetic weaponry to be used on all...but only the marked ones are hurt by it.

Well, if I had my wish, they'd develop one specifically for two groups of people who post on public forums - those with an IQ clearly under 75 and all woo-woo conspiracy nuts. (Of course there's a fair amount of overlap there.) :D

Oh - and let's not forget those who've dealt directly with space aliens and the ones who've met Bigfoot face to face (but they probably fall into that first group anyway). ;)

:D LOL

I read a short story about 10 years ago that involved using a sort of bioweapon like this. But it was more insidious. Basically in the story line all people who were very serious Muslims were convinced to take a drug that had a written copy of the Qur'an which would somehow insert itself into the DNA. So lots of Muslims all across the world did do so because their Imams told the that's what Mohammad wanted them to do along with praying 6 times a day (yes one more for shits and giggles) and walking in a figure eight twice a day (OK I made those two up) so then this bioweapon was made to attack people who had taken this pill and inserted the Qur'an into their DNA. That was the end of the story.

I think it was in those "Best of Scifi" books?

I've heard rich white people might be working on it and its making China nervous. Wondering how it would work. We know some people are more succeptible to different diseases like blacks and sickle cell anemia. Maybe its along that track.

Oh? Where did you hear that, exactly?

I've heard rich white people might be working on it and its making China nervous. Wondering how it would work. We know some people are more succeptible to different diseases like blacks and sickle cell anemia. Maybe its along that track.Africans are not "susceptible" to sickle cell0 (it's not a disease) they inherit it - - just like Irish tend to be coleiac.

This is the only reference I remember

[she] dismissed the suggestion that information gained from the sequencing of the human genome could be used to create a biological weapon specific to a particular racial or ethnic group.

"At present this seems unlikely for several reasons," she said. "It has been pointed out in several reports that races do not exist from a genetic perspective; there is generally more genetic variation within groups than between groups.

"Indeed, it has been suggested that a re-examination of the race concept is due."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,959473,00.html

I've heard rich white people might be working on it and its making China nervous. Wondering how it would work. We know some people are more succeptible to different diseases like blacks and sickle cell anemia. Maybe its along that track.

Sickle cell is a genetic disorder. It is something you're born with. It is mostly found in people who come from places with lots of malaria, such as West Africa (thus in African Americans), some parts of the Middle East, and Southern India.

There are other genetic disorders which have been claimed to be most prevalent in certain "races," such as Tay-Sachs and Multiple Sclerosis.

Sickle cell is a genetic disorder. It is something you're born with. It is mostly found in people who come from places with lots of malaria, such as West Africa (thus in African Americans), some parts of the Middle East, and Southern India.

There are other genetic disorders which have been claimed to be most prevalent in certain "races," such as Tay-Sachs and Multiple Sclerosis.

Sickle cell is a benefit in those areas, it helps cope with malaria infection. In evolutionary terms it is certainly not a disorder.

Sickle cell is a benefit in those areas, it helps cope with malaria infection. In evolutionary terms it is certainly not a disorder.

I guess most adaptive traits have their pros and cons, but sickle cell is quite stupid. Even in an area with malaria sickle cell is still quite dangerous.

If you don't inherit the trait your chances of ever dying from malaria are slightly high. If you only inherit one sickle cell chromosome from your parents then your chances of surviving a malaria infection are greatly increased. If you inherit two sickle chromosomes then there is a good chance you'll die.

It seems a bit unbalanced and awkward to me...:shrug:

I guess sickle cell was a poor example. How about native Americans and their lack of tolerance to alcohol or asians and their different enzyme metabolism rates? Basically, there are some differences among different peoples.

The molecular marker is an interesting idea. Maybe even Ph.D. worthy.

I heard they were messing around with vaccines awhile back which either made women's antibodies attack sperm or made men sterile in Africa. Think they slipped it in with polio vaccine or something like that.

Native Americans and their lack of tolerance to alcohol? :huh:

What do polio vaccines have to do with genetically targeted viruses?

Basically, this is impossible in a racial context as there is no such thing as a "race" gene or "races."

I guess most adaptive traits have their pros and cons, but sickle cell is quite stupid. Even in an area with malaria sickle cell is still quite dangerous.

If you don't inherit the trait your chances of ever dying from malaria are slightly high. If you only inherit one sickle cell chromosome from your parents then your chances of surviving a malaria infection are greatly increased. If you inherit two sickle chromosomes then there is a good chance you'll die.

It seems a bit unbalanced and awkward to me...:shrug:

Well, the trait has gained ground because of the benefits, so they obviously must outweigh the ill effects.

Yeah its in the pipeline at the moment. Probably see it around 3-4 years time.
Uhh...do you have a source for this?

If he told you you'd have to kill him O_o

Uhh...do you have a source for this?

Well of course.

Well of course.

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dogs?

dogs?

huh? what dogs? ;)

Native Americans and their lack of tolerance to alcohol? :huh:

What do polio vaccines have to do with genetically targeted viruses?

Basically, this is impossible in a racial context as there is no such thing as a "race" gene or "races."

Native Americans have a greater incidence of alcoholism, diabetes, and asthma. I'm sure it has nothing to do with genetics because suggesting so would make me a racist which I'm obviously not.:shrug:

The polio vaccine was not genetically targeted so much as piggybacking other antigens, sperm I think, with a polio vaccine and using it on a captive population for eugenics work by some nonprofit group. Allegedly of course...

Genes create physical expression such as the mongolian brown spot on some people. I'm not a geneticist but there does seem to be higher expression of some genes in certain populations. If I had to guess I'd probably go with whoever said they'd spread around the biological marker in the target population and hit it with a killer virus.

There's a higher expression of some genes in some populations simply due to coincidence (such as genetic drift or inbreeding), not because the different groups are somehow more susceptible to it -- that's not how genetics works.

For example, the Roma ("gypsies") have some weird distribution of the rhesus factor (I'm not sure if it's a high incidence of rhesus negative or positive), here in South Africa we have a very high incidence of albinism, then there is red hair in western Europeans, heamophilia in the large extended royal family of western Europe (including the Romanovs and the British royal family), etc. These traits occur in other populations, but may have been strengthened here due to gene amplification (caused by historic inbreeding, and, in the case of the royal family, very recent if not current inbreeding). It's not because the population groups are somehow fundamentally different (that is, different "races"), it's simply genetic drift.

I'm not sure about native Americans, but low class poor people often have a higher incidence of socially destructive behaviour, such as alcoholism. The same is true of many native Australians as well as Khoisan people in Botswana. They are few in number, have experienced historical violence and displacement, and were then put in economically underdeveloped places where they could not practise their traditional way of life -- it's not because they're genetically programmed to be drunkards.

There's a higher expression of some genes in some populations simply due to coincidence (such as genetic drift or inbreeding), not because the different groups are somehow more susceptible to it -- that's not how genetics works.

Agreed.

For example, the Roma ("gypsies") have some weird distribution of the rhesus factor (I'm not sure if it's a high incidence of rhesus negative or positive), here in South Africa we have a very high incidence of albinism, then there is red hair in western Europeans, heamophilia in the large extended royal family of western Europe (including the Romanovs and the British royal family), etc. These traits occur in other populations, but may have been strengthened here due to gene amplification (caused by historic inbreeding, and, in the case of the royal family, very recent if not current inbreeding). It's not because the population groups are somehow fundamentally different (that is, different "races"), it's simply genetic drift.

Agreed.

I'm not sure about native Americans, but low class poor people often have a higher incidence of socially destructive behaviour, such as alcoholism. The same is true of many native Australians as well as Khoisan people in Botswana. They are few in number, have experienced historical violence and displacement, and were then put in economically underdeveloped places where they could not practise their traditional way of life -- it's not because they're genetically programmed to be drunkards.

So rich people with health problems have them because they are genetically predisposed to from inbreeding and genetic drift, but poor people with health problems do not have them for genetically predisposed reasons. Are you letting political correctness cloud your objectivity or are you really talking out of both sides of your mouth?