LONDON: Nature, not nurture, is the main determinant of how well children perform at school and university, according to a study to be published this week. The researchers came to their conclusion by comparing how well adopted children did at school when they were brought up alongside parents' biological children. The relative effects of genes and the home environment were then separated out. Previous studies have suggested that the home environment, and in particular the level of family income, is the most important determinant of educational attainment. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17160969^30417,00.html
Yeah, and it was all nothing but idealistic bullshit to pacify the liberal's who advocated integration of races and cultures! But you and I, J.B., knew better, didn't we? They've been trying to "prove" that races are all alike, all equal, for generations ......and have always failed miserably (and usually those studies weren't published for fear of race riots in Los Angeles and Cinncinnati!!). In fact, I'm surprised that anyone allowed the publication of those results ...perhaps they've couched it in idealism enough to keep the race riots to a minimum! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Baron Max
Yeah, ye're right, Spurious ....I didn't get my usual exercise today, I was shooting my guns for fun. So I thought "jumping to conclusions" would make up for the lack of physical exercise! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Baron Max
Nearly Half of Blacks, Latinos Drop Out, School Study Shows, by Duke Helfand, L.A. Times Posted: March 24th, 2005 Los Angeles Times March 24, 2005 Nearly half of the Latino and African American students who should have graduated from California high schools in 2002 failed to complete their education, according to a Harvard University report released Wednesday. In the Los Angeles Unified School District, the situation was even worse, with just 39% of Latinos and 47% of African Americans graduating, compared with 67% of whites and 77% of Asians. http://www.clipi.org/blog/archives/44
I haven't found the original study. However I find it suspicous that the adopted performed less well than own children. If a genetic factor is involved it means that no children with "intelligence genes" are ever adopted?
We have a similar situation here in Texas ...and we've lowered the academic standards in a faulty attempt to keep more of them in school. Pretty soon we're gonna' have to lower the standards down to zilch, pass for free, and they still might fail to make the grade!!!! Baron Max
Do you have any evidence of that or are you just posting that shit to further your own agenda? Baron Max
I haven't read this study, but adopted children often have a troubled past, and very early mental stimulation is vital to intellectual development. Also, siblings with similar genes often perform very differently in school.
Spidergoat is absolutely right. I couldn't agree more. After all, consider all of those Vietnamese infants who, after the fall of Saigon, spent their first few years in refugee camps where they were near starvation for an extended period of time. Then, when they came to the USA, they grew up to become valedictorians and graduated with honors from college and all of that. They surpassed in academics the native born whites and blacks and Hispanics in the US. So you see, all of this has to do with environment. There is obviously no genetic component involved. None at all.
The mear fact that a person got themselves into a situation that they would give up there own child, in my opinion shows a over all higher average of "genes" of less intelligence. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adoption of Children from Foster Care Of the 542,000 children in foster care as of March 2003, approximately 126,000 children were waiting to be adopted. Of this total, 52% are male, 48% are female 28% are white, 56% are black, 9% are Hispanic, 1% are American Indian, and 5% are of unknown background. http://www.cwla.org/programs/adoption/adoptionfactsheet.htm
All study's have shown that Asians are at the top of list when it come to having genes that help the best in academic performance. Your story is more evidence to the many genetic differences between the different types of humans.
You don't understand J. B.: Spidergoat says that the early years are crucial. These kids were starving. According to him they should have been dunces later in life. But later they were at the tops of their classes. Spidergoat is obviously right.
I do think genes are crucial to intelligence, but all Homo Sapiens have more or less similar genetic potential. I don't say identical, because there are inherited learning disabilities. A real test, as I have been saying, would need to involve the study of identical twins.
Hi Spidergoat: What do you mean by "more or less similar genetic potential"? Can you explain that a little more for us? Thank you.
I didn't read the article, but I've read in other places that the reason adopted children do worse is because they have lower quality genes (because parents that put their children up for adoption have tendencies to be of lower stock). Genes are generally more important than environment. People like to think that everyone is equal, but unfortunately, that's simply not how the world really is.
I read the other day that the percentage of gifted children went up from 3 to 5% over the years. That's contradicts a bit the theory that the excessive breeding of the underlayer of society would create an army of mentally retarded vegetables? Care to explain this phenomenon to me. I fail to grasp the reasons why this could be if we just let the 'vermon' of mankind propagate like there is no tomorrow and our intellectuals prefer no children or maybe 0,34 children.
