You guys, we don't need 7 threads to discuss one thing. SAM and her party think were all evil, we think sam and her party are all evil. Their were done, end of story. Have any of you actually had your minds changed since this debate started, about this? So can we talk about something that is actually debateable? Cause this is just so incredibly idiotic.
So is watching a bunch of religious zealots killing women and children in the name of 'peaceful coexistence'.
There seem to be worms that are eating your brain as I write this. Maybe you should get it looked at by a physician.
In response to Buffalo Roam’s recent posting of the Geneva conventions, sam says that they apply to the israelis but not hamas because… But in this thread sam attacks the idea that hamas is a terrorist group by contradicting herself and claiming the opposite… This kind of thing is why I don't participate in this forum. There is simply no way to reason with sam's kind of hatred. I wish people would simply stop responding to her. This way it would be much more difficult for the moderators to characterize her threads as honest debate and therefore consistent with the posting guidelines of this forum.
How would you like to be bombed day and night out, with civilian Israelis dying and than peep out and say ...hey duded lets have a ceasefire. No thank you. Why dont all Israeli terrorists go to Allah.
And Hamas are not launching rockets on civilians, they are launching rockets on the Israeli terrorists who took over their land.
The Chechen women who suicide bombed themselves in Russian rock concerts were also targeting occupier soldiers who stole their land. So were the oppressed militants who liberated the Beslan school and the theater where over a hundred Nazis were liquidated as they watched a Nazi theater show. Long live the Chechen resistance. Generation after generation, until total liberation.
I think they're all evil. Both Hamas and Israel have divorced themselves from the community of civilized nations. At this point it no longer matters "who started it." The leaders of Hamas, who were elected democratically and therefore express the will of the majority of the citizens of Gaza, have publicly stated many times that they wish to deny Israel the right to exist--which presumably has to include the people who live there. The leaders of Israel, who were elected democratically and therefore express the will of the majority of the citizens of Israel, have demonstrated by their actions that they do not place a high priority on the lives of the civilians of Gaza. Sure, the IDF sends cellphone messages to Palestinians who live near their targets, and sure, we can't predict what Hamas would actually do if Iran began supplying them with larger-yield weapons and they had the chance to live up to their rhetoric. Nonetheless, it's clear that both sides are determined to kill off a significant percentage of the population of the other side--including at least 50% noncombatants in both cases based on performance to date. Fuck 'em both. Abraham was arguably the most evil person who ever walked the earth and humanity will be lucky to survive his legacy of hatred and violence.
Fraggle, you should know that not only has Hamas taken the destruction of Israel off its manifesto since before it became a political party but has also accepted the 67 borders. And offered an extended ceasefire before this massacre The delay is only from Israel, which keeps promoting these untruths to duck repsonsibility They even mounted a PR campaign for this purpose. And no, its not about religion:
Just really don't give a fuck. How many threads there are, how much people argue about it, how many people get killed in the asshole of the world(Holy land). Just don't give a fuck. Talk about it, argue as much as you want...wtf do I care.
Nope - Canada had pretty much nothing to do with the creation of Israel. None of my ancestors had anything to do with it or probably anything to do with the Holey Land in probably 10-20000 years. So...I don't give a fuck. Not my problem. I got my own problems than to argue about shit that's not my problem.
That is what the Gaza sticky thread was probably intended to stop. People on both sides of the argument have started the other Gaza threads. I doubt that anybody sure of their beliefs can have their minds changed. Their maybe one or two people wandering by who's opinion is not yet formed, especially if they are very young. They probably would read some things here that they would not hear from the main stream media. This Gaza subject and the greater context for Gaza is very much debatable. It is just that this debate is not winnable. No debate is winnable if neither side is willing to accept defeat. The consensus opinion of they bystanders could change as one side or the other performs better in the debate. One side could perform better by having better logic or they could perform better simply by having more people saying more in support of their side. It might be nice to restrict Gaza talk to the Gaza thread if the Gaza talk was drowning out some other debate of higher intellectual content. But which topic would that be? Just start the better non-Gaza threads.
I presume one of them is pontificating on things about which you don't give a ****. By the way, you really need to make a study of the interbreeding of human populations. You are descended from Jews from the Holy Land, and from Palestinians. So your claim to have had nothing to do with the region for ten or twenty millenia is bogus.
The attitude that ignored a thousand atrocities. Oh and by the way, profanity doesn't make your posts any more striking or interesting.
Correction. They deny Israel the right to exist only if Israel denies the Palestinians their birthright. The stolen Palestinian territories. Negotiations start with MUTUAL recognition. Yes. An oppressed people have the RIGHT to resistance. Why is this so hard to grasp? Colonialism created oppression. The world over. The British murdered thousands of Boer woman and children in concentration camps as a lesson to the Boer resistance fighters. Yesterdays heroes and resistance fighters are today`s "terrorists". The media and the hypocritical war on "terrorism" have created this skewed mindset. Religion and the division it engenders is the scourge of the world. Saying "Fuck `em both", when the one side is clearly oppressed by the other is dishonest.
You don't care so much that you post twice about it. You don't care to such an extent that you are arguing about just how much you don't care about it. Yeah, really makes sense..Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! So... why are you here then? Why aren't you taking care of your own problems instead of arguing about just how much you don't care?