Friends

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Jessie, May 18, 2003.

  1. Jessie Registered Senior Member

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    Are there really true friends?
    without any selfish, fake thoughts, jeolousy...etc
     
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  5. Halo Full Time Nerd-Bomber Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but very few. I have many acquaintances and friends but only a handful of true friends.
     
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    jessie

    are you cute?
     
  8. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    I have yet to find one:bugeye:
     
  9. Closet Philosopher Off to Laurentian University Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but maybe only 1 or 2 people are like that
     
  10. YoungWriter Audiophile Registered Senior Member

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    Humans are made imperfect. What you seem to be describing is a perfect friend. While I definately have friends I trust more than others, it doesn't mean they don't have the ability to hurt me.
     
  11. disposable88 My real name is Rick Registered Senior Member

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    First we must discuss the purpose of friends. Why would somebody want a friend? Here are a few of my suggestions:

    1.) To make you happy - indirectly or directly
    2.) To make personal gain - materialistic, spiritually, socially, or emotionally.
    3.) To gain a bond.
    4.) Sexual/Social gratification
    5.) To gain a person you can trust.

    Just like all selfish things, these 5 purposes don't come without a price - you have to give the same 5 things to your friend.

    All five of these, as far as I'm concerned - are selfish. So my answer is no, there are no true friends to some extent.

    I have friends I've known since before I can remember (hint, before I could talk) that I cannot claim are used in any of those three purposes.

    I also believe that people that you USED to hate, but then became friends at a later time can be classified as friends - although I don't have any of these. But I think it's possible.

    So, my answer, although entirely refutable, is yes - there are two special cases in which a true friend can be made. And quite assurably MANY more that I can't think of at the moment.
     
  12. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    There are true friends out there. I was lucky enough to find quite a few. It takes a long time to verify a true friend, and a lot of heartbreaks too. If you can be a best true friend, you'll meet people like that, thats all i can tell you.
     
  13. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    amen...friends are nothing but needy bastards who whine and tell you their problems like you actually gave a damn.

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  14. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    true friends are not the ones that use each other. and yes there are some people who endure. some just dont click
     
  15. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    story of me life mate

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  16. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    there are some that dont. ever since 5th grade, i truly believed that friends are my family. and i found some interesting caring people that way.
     
  17. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but we put too much emphasis on interaction with other humans as a whole.

    Truely, we put too much emphasis on finding a partner or "soul-mate" (whatever the fuck that is).
     
  18. KOE Registered Senior Member

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    There are "true friends" but they are very hard to find. I have only had 2. And the first one was murdered, so.....down to 1

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  19. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    I have had, and still have a few 'true' friends - whatever that is. Although I've never had very many friends at all. And I don't regret it. In fact, on travelling across the continent, I had surprised a few people by revealing that I really wasn't very popular back home and didn't even have a posse of my own. (This was after they asked of course. I probably came of as some God father bad ass.

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    For me, the problems with friendship are usually going to end up being one of two things:

    1) Starts out mutualistic. You can be true friends with the other person and visa versa. But eventually, one of the two people no longer views you at their own level. This creates so many problems and can eventually destroy the relationship. Many friendships end this way. Getting to close to a friend can cause the relationship to collapse in on itself as more strength is required from both parties to hold themselves up. I'll just stop there...

    2) You end up realizing that the relationship is not mutualistic at all, and one of the persons involved is a two-faced scumbag. I don't usually blame the scumbag for ending the relationship. Why? Well, I guess because people aren't able to see their own behaviour, and realize that it's wrong. They do what they think is right based on how others perceive them. If they make no friends, or loose them, it's a relfection upon themselves that they are doing something differently than before.

    Kind of the same reasons I guess. Just opposite sides of the same coin.

    If the relationship is strong, then you have a true friend. And that's a beautiful thing. For this reason, anyone that does not value or appreciate true friendship is petty and weak and should be dead. Period.

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    I'd also like to add that the reason we should not devote our time to having large 'posse's' and groups of friends is because energy is better used strengthening existing friendships and holding your own side of the bargain. Unless of course you're one of those incredibly charismatic people that knows better than to screw up friendships by leaving them alone. Damnit. I just contradicted myself. Off to bed for me/
     
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  20. IXL777 mature with wisdom Registered Senior Member

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    whitewolf I agree with you, The best mates I ever had where in the forces, we used to share everything.

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    "Can you make good friends on this forum?
     
  21. armydog Registered Member

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    Yes, there are true friends in this world. I have been fortunate to have five really great friends all whom I have known for over twenty years......one of them going on thirty two years. I have had other friends that have come and gone, I still consider them friends but the five mentioned above are the ones I am the closest to and share the most with.
     
  22. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    I doubt it..i still consider this forum a secondary relationship.


    It seems from this thread that friendship has been a good mistress to some and bad to others...and it just outright ignored some

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  23. tru friends are those who do get on your nerves some times beacuase if they didn't you'd know they're in it for something.

    read this on a car:
    "friends don't let friends buy music from WAL-MART"
     

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