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redarmy11
08-06-07, 04:13 PM
File under 'alternative lifestyles'.

Freeganism
http://freegan.info/


What is a Freegan?
Freegans are people who employ alternative strategies for living based on limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources. Freegans embrace community, generosity, social concern, freedom, cooperation, and sharing in opposition to a society based on materialism, moral apathy, competition, conformity, and greed.

Waste Reclamation
We live in an economic system where sellers only value land and commodities relative to their capacity to generate profit. Consumers are constantly being bombarded with advertising telling them to discard and replace the goods they already have because this increases sales. This practise of affluent societies produces an amount of waste so enormous that many people can be fed and supported simply on its trash. As freegans we forage instead of buying to avoid being wasteful consumers ourselves, to politically challenge the injustice of allowing vital resources to be wasted while multitudes lack basic necessities like food, clothing, and shelter, and to reduce the waste going to landfills and incinerators which are disproportionately situated within poor, non-white neighborhoods, where they cause elevated levels of cancer and asthma.

'Urban Foraging' (cough..)
Perhaps the most notorious freegan strategy is what is commonly called "urban foraging" or "dumpster diving". This technique involves rummaging through the garbage of retailers, residences, offices, and other facilities for useful goods. Despite our society's sterotypes about garbage, the goods recovered by freegans are safe, useable, clean, and in perfect or near-perfect condition, a symptom of a throwaway culture that encourages us to constantly replace our older goods with newer ones, and where retailers plan high-volume product disposal as part of their economic model. Some urban foragers go at it alone, others dive in groups, but we always share the discoveries openly with one another and with anyone along the way who wants them. Groups like Food Not Bombs recover foods that would otherwise go to waste and use them to prepare meals to share in public places with anyone who wishes to partake [Editors note: dirty bastards. :(].

Eco-Friendly Transportation
Freegans recognize the disastrous social and ecological impacts of blah blah blah...

Therefore, freegans choose not to use cars for the most part. Rather, we use other methods of transportation including trainhopping, hitchhiking, walking, skating, and biking. Hitchhiking fills up room in a car that would have been unused otherwise and therefore it does not add to the overall consumption of cars and gasoline.

Rent-Free Housing
Freegans believe that housing is a RIGHT, not a privilege. Just as freegans consider it an atrocity for people to starve while food is thrown away, we are also outraged that people literally freeze to death on the streets while landlords and cities keep buildings boarded up and vacant because they can’t turn a profit on making them available as housing.

Squatters are people who occupy and rehabilitate abandoned, decrepit buildings. Squatters believe that real human needs are more important than abstract notions of private property, and that those who hold deed to buildings but won’t allow people to live in them, even in places where housing is vitally needed, don’t deserve to own those buildings. In addition to living areas, squatters often convert abandoned buildings into community centers with programs including art activities for children, environmental education, meetings of community organizations, and more.

Working Less / Voluntary Joblessness
How much of our lives do we sacrifice to pay bills and buy more stuff? For most of us, work means sacrificing our freedom to take orders from someone else, stress, boredom, monotony, and in many cases risks to our physical and psychological well-being.

By accounting for the basic necessities of food, clothing, housing, furniture, and transportation without spending a dime, freegans are able to greatly reduce or altogether eliminate the need to constantly be employed. We can instead devote our time to caring for our families, volunteering in our communities, and joining activist groups to fight the practices of the corporations who would otherwise be bossing us around at work.



http://wetlands-preserve.org/uploadedPictures/Janet.jpg
"Dirty bastards."


http://www.hofstra.edu/images/museum_johnson_hitch2.JPG
"Help save planet Earth:
give a tramp a lift."



So: are they, as they claim, "people who employ alternative strategies for living based on limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources"?

Or: are they - as Max and I believe - just a bunch of dirty bastards who are too lazy to work and who need a long spell in the armed forces? With all the food they can eat... and accommodation thrown in. At no extra charge.

lucifers angel
08-06-07, 04:22 PM
so these people go around your dustbins and see if you ahve thrown away any food

redarmy11
08-06-07, 04:25 PM
Well, I think they tend to lurk round the backs of supermarkets more than round the back of your house. I wouldn't put anything past these types though. I advise securing your rubbish with a large padlock.

lucifers angel
08-06-07, 04:27 PM
Well, I think they tend to lurk round the backs of supermarkets more than round the back of your house. I wouldn't put anything past these types though. I advise securing your rubbish with a large padlock.

i have heard about this but i have never seen anyone do it, sure i have seen tramps and beggers but not freegans

redarmy11
08-06-07, 04:31 PM
If you've seen tramps and beggars, you've seen freegans. Freegans tend to wear a lot more badges but that's about it.

nietzschefan
08-06-07, 05:03 PM
Holy shit shorty - we are Freegans! I have something to put in the fucking annoying "religion" box on government forms.

Captain Kremmen
08-06-07, 05:09 PM
It is a waste of food.
Surely it could be used by someone more deserving than these freeloaders.
Years ago, waste food used to be fed to pigs.

S.A.M.
08-06-07, 05:24 PM
Where have you been?

I missed you!!!http://forum.digital-digest.com/images/smilies/1/tissue2.gif

http://forum.digital-digest.com/images/smilies/1/realbighug.gif

Welcome back!

draqon
08-06-07, 05:25 PM
Where have you been?

I missed you!!!http://forum.digital-digest.com/images/smilies/1/tissue2.gif

http://forum.digital-digest.com/images/smilies/1/realbighug.gif

Welcome back!

are you sure its him?

S.A.M.
08-06-07, 05:26 PM
are you sure its him?

Don't you recognize his style? :o

btw, I'm still mad at you for the spurious thing.

redarmy11
08-06-07, 05:32 PM
Hi sam, long time no see. I was having a bit of a siesta, sorry.

Is it me you're mad at or draqon?

S.A.M.
08-06-07, 05:36 PM
Hi sam, long time no see. I was having a bit of a siesta, sorry.

Is it me you're mad at or draqon?

I luV you darling, not mad at you. :C~ http://www.savingadvice.com/forums/images/smilies/love/love-smiley-077.gif

draqon is a meanie.:bawl:

glad to have you back, safe and sound.

S.A.M.
08-06-07, 05:58 PM
This thread is an obvious attempt to stoke hatred against innocent Freegans, who are merely doing their bit in saving the earth's resources. It should be immediately annihilated (or locked and cesspooled).

draqon
08-06-07, 05:59 PM
This thread is an obvious attempt to stoke hatred against innocent Freegans, who are merely doing their bit in saving the earth's resources. It should be immediately annihilated (or locked and cesspooled).

discussing an issue is the best way to achieve understanding of this issue by others.

I want to become a freegan because I need to prolong my life ...for a certain purpose...

S.A.M.
08-06-07, 06:01 PM
discussing an issue is the best way to achieve understanding of this issue by others.

I want to become a freegan because I need to prolong my life ...for a certain purpose...

I don't think ascendance is part of the package, besides weren't you a Buddhist?:bugeye:

draqon
08-06-07, 06:02 PM
I don't think ascendance is part of the package, besides weren't you a Buddhist?:bugeye:

I am a Buddhist.

redarmy11
08-06-07, 06:27 PM
This thread is an obvious attempt to stoke hatred against innocent Freegans, who are merely doing their bit in saving the earth's resources. It should be immediately annihilated (or locked and cesspooled).
It's the pretence that they're doing it for progressive, holy, spiritual reasons that I resent. If they came out and said "yes, we're just scruffy, greedy freeloaders and we like getting something for nothing" I don't think I'd have a problem with it.




Pff. Who am I trying to kid? I'd hate them then too. Just not as much.

S.A.M.
08-06-07, 06:29 PM
It's the pretence that they're doing it for progressive, holy, spiritual reasons that I resent. If they came out and said "yes, we're just scruffy, greedy freeloaders and we like getting something for nothing" I don't think I'd have a problem with it.




Pff. Who am I trying to kid? I'd hate them then too. Just not as much.

Its all in the interpretation.:mad:

draqon
08-06-07, 06:29 PM
yes, we're just scruffy, greedy freeloaders and we like getting something for nothing

Michael
08-06-07, 08:04 PM
I don't understand why with, supposedly, so many unemployed Americans looking for work, they are not employed to go through the trash and separate what is recyclable and reusable from "real" rubbish?

Orleander
08-06-07, 08:07 PM
There are scavengers in the animal world. They aren't any different.
They can go through my garbage. I wonder if they could sue you if they got food poisoning?
I hope they start picking up road kill.

shorty_37
08-07-07, 12:07 AM
Holy shit shorty - we are Freegans! I have something to put in the fucking annoying "religion" box on government forms.

yeah this is me now :Working Less / Voluntary Joblessness

Captain Kremmen
08-07-07, 01:03 PM
Note English "Skip" = US "Dumpster"

They are putting security fences around skips in the uk now.
This is a step too far. I don't mind them stopping freeloading freegans,
but it seems that they are even stopping respectable skip-scavengers.
Where else are you going to find nice bits of wood.
Buy them?

http://www.theskip.net/the-skip-magazine/a_neat_idea_for_skip_safety_on.html

By the way, this is not a spoof, it's a genuine report from "The Skip" magazine. Their Ace reporter ,Dunstan, is fascinating isn't he?

superstring01
08-07-07, 01:26 PM
I'm a consumer. A deplorabe, materialistic, capitalistic consumer of the Nth degree.

~String

superstring01
08-07-07, 01:27 PM
Note English "Skip" = US "Dumpster"

So do you call a dirty whore a "Cum Skip" like we say "Cum Dumpster" in the USA.

~String

Captain Kremmen
08-07-07, 01:34 PM
So do you call a dirty whore a "Cum Skip" like we say "Cum Dumpster" in the USA.

~String

No we don't say that. We have a great affection for skips.

I don't understand why with, supposedly, so many unemployed Americans looking for work, they are not employed to go through the trash and separate what is recyclable and reusable from "real" rubbish?

It would be a perfect job for people in prison.

superstring01
08-07-07, 01:36 PM
No we don't say that. We have a great affection for skips.

Hmmm..... never heard someone express affection for a dumpster, but okay.

~String

Captain Kremmen
08-07-07, 02:17 PM
We don't have Cum dumpsters but "The Skip" does have a skip chick feature.

http://www.theskip.net/the-skip-magazine/skip_chick_april_2006.html

redarmy11
08-07-07, 03:04 PM
I don't mind them stopping freeloading freegans, but it seems that they are even stopping respectable skip-scavengers.
Is there a difference that I'm just not apprehending?

Tiassa
08-07-07, 03:22 PM
RedArmy11

Although I'm not huge on the idea of "freeganism" (I'm not going to be taking it up for myself), and even less impressed that people are trying to give this way of living a buzzword name, I must reject the hatred you've directed at these people. If I absolutely had to choose, I would side with the world-flight freegans before I stood with a world-dominance fascist such as yourself who apparently wishes to see humanity locked into an unjust economic system.

I respect their protest and withdrawal from the system; I resent the attempt to market the idea with such a stupid name. But even more, I am disgusted by the idea you're promoting, that people are obliged to take part in an unjust system.

Fascism is never fashionable. Get over it, and cram the hatred.

Captain Kremmen
08-07-07, 03:24 PM
Is there a difference that I'm just not apprehending?

There's no real difference. Skip scavenging is a time honoured activity.
It's still technically theft though.

I don't really mind them raiding food skips, though I find it a bit disgusting.
It's no different from tramps eating thrown away Macdonalds.

These Freegans seem very in-your-face, and self-righteous.
If they just kept their mouths shut no-one would bother them.
As it is, the supermarkets will just put locks on their waste food containers and that will be the end of it, or they'll spray the stuff with dye.

nietzschefan
08-07-07, 04:31 PM
I guess I'm not a freegan(shucks), is there a movement for lazy cheapasses?

redarmy11
08-07-07, 04:46 PM
There's no real difference. Skip scavenging is a time honoured activity. It's still technically theft though.
Yeah, but it's... rubbish theft. Literally, of course, but that's not what I mean. What I mean is: what's the point in stealing useless junk with no resale value? I'd have a lot more respect for them if they went in and just took the stuff off the supermarket shelves - I'd even buy it off 'em, half price!! I'm not paying good money for some junk from a skip though. :(
I don't really mind them raiding food skips, though I find it a bit disgusting. It's no different from tramps eating thrown away Macdonalds.
Well, the only difference there is that what they get from MacDonalds would be a lot tastier and probably a lot more nutritious!
As it is, the supermarkets will just put locks on their waste food containers and that will be the end of it, or they'll spray the stuff with dye
They should poison it if you ask me. If it's in a skip it's there to be thrown away, not to provide a free meal for every Tom, Dick and Harriet!
These Freegans seem very in-your-face, and self-righteous.
If they just kept their mouths shut no-one would bother them.
And that's the main thing that bothers me. Instead of just saying "yes, we like not working and getting stuff for free," they have to come out with stuff like this!
35.1 million people—including 12.4 million children—live in households that experience hunger or the risk of hunger. This represents more than one in ten households in the United States (11.0 percent).
And this!
Research shows that preschool and school-aged children who experience severe hunger have higher levels of chronic illness, anxiety and depression, and behavior problems than children with no hunger.
And this!
The U.S. Conference of Mayors reports that in 2006 requests for emergency food assistance increased an average of 7 percent. The study also found that 48 percent of those requesting emergency food assistance were members of families with children and that 37 percent of adults requesting such assistance were employed. Unemployment, high housing costs, poverty or lack of income, and high medical costs led the list of reasons contributing to the rise.
Why are they trying to justify their GREED by harping on about the fact that "oh yeah, 12.4 million Americans kids go hungry, blah blah blah". Well if they're so concerned why don't they get out and get a job then and take them all for a Happy Meal - LOL!

Captain Kremmen
08-07-07, 05:00 PM
Some of the stuff thrown into household and builders skips is by no means rubbish.
Some of it is almost new. It's a department store for cheapskates.

I always have a quick look in a skip if I'm passing one.
So do 90% of people.
If you spot something, you go back late at night and retrieve it.

These Freegans though.
They think they are doing the world a favour by robbing food.

They are delusional. They think they are Robin Hoods.

shorty_37
08-07-07, 06:20 PM
I guess I'm not a freegan(shucks), is there a movement for lazy cheapasses?

yeah divorce lolol

Captain Kremmen
08-08-07, 03:24 AM
They should poison it if you ask me. If it's in a skip it's there to be thrown away, not to provide a free meal for every Tom, Dick and Harriet!



Sounds like something Victor Meldrew would say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgTrbT7nZVU

If there were a pile of dead Freegans lying around the bins at Safeway each morning, it would upset the other shoppers.