The US government has no compunction with covert agents posing as journalists (http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/14119840.htm). Which begs the question:

How about the other way around? I believe the neocons have no compunction working on public opinion through the media (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-jajko2dec02,1,7355294.story?ctrack=1&cset=true). So I suspect Rupert Murdoch is working with Porter Goss.

The US government has no compunction with covert agents posing as journalists (http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/14119840.htm). Which begs the question:

How about the other way around? I believe the neocons have no compunction working on public opinion through the media (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-jajko2dec02,1,7355294.story?ctrack=1&cset=true). So I suspect Rupert Murdoch is working with Porter Goss.
in your first link the covert operators were doing a legitamate job of protecting the president, why you find that unusual is beyond me

i couldn't view the second link cause it ask you to register or log in

"why you find that unusual is beyond me"
Because if the US government creeps over the line into the Soviet TASS model, we're in some deep shit.

Don't worry. Log in- The second link is to an article from a right-wing viewpoint. In L.A. Here's a little- The author starts out not far from your own view:

Information is a critical part of any war, and the U.S. has for too long — to its own detriment — ignored this powerful and essential tool, a tool especially well-suited to the globalized Information Age.

Even third-rate countries routinely use information and disinformation as an instrument of foreign policy, often against the United States. The U.S., in turn, cannot win the war of ideas by speaking softly or keeping its mouth shut. But we have been doing just that.

But then there's that murky line, over towards a Goebbels attitude:

We need to be using all the means available in the war of ideas: public diplomacy, psychological operations, influence agents, disinformation and computer information warfare — from open and overt to clandestine and covert, from public explanation of policy to secret subversion of enemies. All of these must be well-orchestrated.

But reading the whole article communicates it better.

your second excerpt sounds like the governments policy on terrorism
and i agree with it

the cia has been in the disinformation business since the bay of pigs
most certainly since vietnam

instead of russia they are now allying it to terrorism
but there is one minor detail that has yet to be resolved
and that is what is terrorism?

i don't have a problem with them doing it but i do have a problem with them doing it and not knowing who they are doing it to

i found a whole shitload of videos you might be interested in
http://www.question911.com/links.php

That is a literal shitload, and also a complete load of shit, leo.

"i don't have a problem with them doing it but i do have a problem with them doing it and not knowing who they are doing it to"

Obviously you are in perfect sync with Herr Rumsfeld:as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."

I am prepared to believe this is clear to you. Surely you can then understand that covert government control of the media is a cancer to our national soul.