Fossil of giant toothed seabird found.

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  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    LIMA, Peru (AP) — The unusually intact fossilized skull of a
    giant, bony-toothed sea bird that died millions of years ago was found on
    Peru's arid southern coast, researchers said Friday.

    The museum said in a statement that the birds had wingspans of up to 20
    feet (6 meters) and may have used the toothlike projections on their beaks
    to prey on slippery fish and squid.

    The cranium discovered in Peru is 16 inches long and is believed to be 8
    million to 10 million years old, based on the age of the rock bed in which it
    was found.

    The formation, a coastal rock bed south of the capital, Lima, is known for
    yielding fossils of whales, dolphins, turtles and other marine life dating as far
    back as 14 million years.


    Read more here: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2009-02-27-peru-fossil_N.htm

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    http://www.whnt.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-lt-peru-fossil,0,6333225.story

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    Screen capture from: http://www.leeuwardercourant.nl/nieuws/video/article4428992.ece/Fossiel_schedel_reuzenvogel_gevonden


    I just wanted to share. It reminded me a bit of Archaeopteryx

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  3. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Wow. If there were birds with teeth a mere ten million years ago, that's some really fast evolution in the Aves. Can we point to any change so enormous and complete among the Mammalia during that time? Sure, the human brain, I guess. But that's soft tissue and soft tissue evolves faster.

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  5. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Not teeth but tooth-like projections in the beak - big difference.

    To be honest I'm surprised it's not a common adaptation for birds that feed on slippery prey like fish
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Some birds today still have 'teeth' though. But they are much smaller and are not bony.
    From the article:
    Some believe they are related to gannets and pelicans while other say they are related to ducks.

    By the way, Synth, it says it had bony teeth.. which is, I guess, somewhat different from just pointy projections of the beak.

    A goose:

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    http://www.digital-nature-photography.com/nature/voegel/grey-lag-goose-photos.php
     
  8. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    The genetic mechanism for the production of teeth is still present in birds - but inactivated by the non-production of the requisite hormone that triggers that genetic mechanism.

    It is quite plausible that the ancestor of the above-described fossil bird did not have teeth, but that somewhere along the line, the genetic mechanism was re-activated, providing a clear advantage leading again to a toothed bird.
     
  9. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    We used to shoot mergansers all the time during duck season:

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