Greetings my fellow companions. I've been posting a few things irradically as of late but please don't become to annoyed, all my polls are with the best of intentions. This however is no poll, it's a full discussion thread. I'd like for each of you to form your very own religion, complete in every detail. According to God (aka Wikipedia / Google) a religion is this:

"A set of beliefs and practices generally held by a human community, involving adherence to codified beliefs and rituals and study of ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction."

So pretend you're the only person around, or that you rule an entire nation. Up until now they've held a common religion, that of paganism. Decide how you'd like to reform their beliefs and what you might need to accomplish it.

I myself would prefer a religion where we worshipped cats, I luV those animals.

And sum up the entire an a readabel paragraph or two on here?

I started to try and sum up my "religious" and philosophical beliefs.
The introduction alone was more than ten pages - and it wasn't done yet.

Wow... just try refining it to those primary differences it has with other religions.

primary differences it has with other religions.

Ideals and goals are equally valid and important.
They differ in that goals are achievable.
An ideal is the distant star that helps guide you towards your goals.
They are similar in that both can change.

Fair enough, but try just telling us what we'd immediately be able to see on the outside that makes your religion unique and different from anyother. I would write mine out but I'm really tired as I've been working alot (even though I just sit around most of the time) and trying to sleep late in the nite.

I claim you as my friend : hugs :

I claim you as my friend : hugs :

But you just sentenced me to death in this thread (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1354458#post1354458).

:shrug: Oopsie :shrug:

:shrug: Oopsie :shrug:

Perhaps you might want to reconsider your position that anyone who drinks or does drugs should be put to death.

I'll think about it, that would certainly make my life easier though :L

Fair enough, but try just telling us what we'd immediately be able to see on the outside that makes your religion unique and different from anyother.

I thought that's what I did.

I'd like for each of you to form your very own religion, complete in every detail.

But there are so many from which to choose already. What is the point? Maybe we should search for those thing that they share in common and then call ourselves Uni's. I do not believe you can create a religion without barrowing from the sages of the past.

I do not believe you can create a religion without barrowing from the sages of the past.

I don't believe anyone ever has - that doesn't make any one religion more or less valid than another.
In fact, if a religion did not borrow wisdom from sages wouldn't it be fairly useless?

The wise don't invent wisdom, they recognize it.

The wise don't invent wisdom, they recognize it.

From where then does wisdom come? :D

From where then does wisdom come? :D

It just is - for people to recognize or not.

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M*W: If I started a new religion, it would be about the influence of mythology and how that caused people to believe in a deity that doesn't really exist.

It would be different than atheism in that it would be a belief in something (mythology) and it would be understood that mythology isn't reality.

There would be no rituals, only intelligent discussion. There would be no deity, only the many deities of mythology, and how they influenced society, but none of them would be worshipped per se. There would be no salvation offered, because there is no to be offered in reality. However, mythology is not reality.

Everyone would want to be a member of this philosophy, because it doesn't hide the truth, and it doesn't manipulate the public in any way. People actually join this community because of it's sincerity of sticking to the myth.

When religion fails, when mythology fails, there is no place to go but the beginning. That beginning is the source of the myth. Welcome strangers!

From where then does wisdom come? :D

Why does it have to "come from" anyone or anywhere?

It just is - for people to recognize or not.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wisdom
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theology

That might be the foundation of a new religion. But to redifine my question: What is the origin of wisdom? :D

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/origin

I am not going anywhere with this...just following the thread.

Why does it have to "come from" anyone or anywhere?

Don't all things have a beginning and an end? I assume you don't know either...?

Don't all things have a beginning and an end?

Not necessarily.
Can you really define wisdom as a "thing"?

Myths are not the source of religion, peoples stupidity is.

Myths are not the source of religion, peoples stupidity is.
SOME religions feed off people's insecurities, fears and other vulnerabilities, yes - but not all.

I think you have a lot to learn about different religions.

Not necessarily.
Can you really define wisdom as a "thing"?

If you and I recognize it then it must exist...maybe? If it does, do you suppose there is a hierarchy of precepts that exist in such? Or is wisdom just a product of mind?

Wow, umm repeat that one I'm lost.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wisdom
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theology

That might be the foundation of a new religion. But to redifine my question: What is the origin of wisdom? :D

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/origin

I am not going anywhere with this...just following the thread.

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M*W: Because all religion comes from man-made ideas.

If you and I recognize it then it must exist...maybe?
Oh how I hate that word sometimes.
Racsim "exists", correct?
It is not tangible, measurable - it does not have a distinct beginning or ending - yet we both know it exists.

If it does, do you suppose there is a hierarchy of precepts that exist in such?
I don't understand the question

Or is wisdom just a product of mind?
I'm not so sure about calling it a "product" a quality or state of mind, perhaps.

Wow...that's asking a lot. My religion would have a list of prophets consisting of anyone even remotely metioned in history, mythology, movies, music, video games, and literature, aswell as many who aren't. There would be a complex heirarchy based on how many years you've been in the system, and what you've accomplished in that time. The goal of my religion would be to make your way towards perfection. Members of my church would be required to study even the most seemingly meaningless subjects, to be in utmost physical condition, to practice all aspects of the arts, and to constantly work at being better at everything. They would be required to fast for 3 days once a month, in tribute to those in third world countries who starve to death. Devout followers, of course, would live in the church; they would have a complex routine with only 7 hours a day devoted to sleep and one devoted to eating/drinking. Twice a year the church would have a party, with coke and weed and boose and cough syrup and some type of hallucinogen to loosen things up. Periodically, I would walk through the streets with the devout followers of the church around me, clearing the way, as they chant the church's propoganda. I would encourage my followers to run for political office, and instill theocratic ideology within them.

Oh how I hate that word sometimes.
Racsim "exists", correct?
It is not tangible, measurable - it does not have a distinct beginning or ending - yet we both know it exists.

I don't understand the question

I'm not so sure about calling it a "product" a quality or state of mind, perhaps.

I suppose that I am trying to determine the nature of "Wisdom," from where it comes, and if it is something we learn or inherit through birth. I think that religion is an avenue for learning wisdom, be it Christianity or some other comparable source. To create a new religion, a person would first need study those.

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M*W: Because all religion comes from man-made ideas.

Maybe so. I like to think that most religion is about life, an appreciation (worship) of life (God.) Other than that, we are probably chasing our own tails. :D

My personal religion that I follow is simple. All problems are caused by insecurities and impulses within you and have no other cause. You should first realize that this is true and not place blame on anyone besides your own self. Reality is like a bubble, and you yourself are another reality. The purpose of life is to have true happiness, which consist of high-energy, a sense of fulfillment, and inner joy, anything contrary to this is suffering. If you eliminate all your defiling impulses and insecurities then all that will remain is this unceasing, eternal happiness, and you will never be able to suffer. If you experience even the slighest degree of suffering in any form then you have not achieved this perfection. Therefore you should spend your life focusing on the internal not the external and eliminate all your problems and achieve the highest perfection, the highest freedom...

That was pretty good...

Cicero
The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil.

:shrug:

Buddhism suits me.

Cicero



http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Cicero

Had to give it a look.