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GeoffP
05-02-07, 11:01 PM
There's a lot of unresolved questions about the destruction of the Death Star. How was an invincible space station destroyed so easily? Who was really responsible? And who stood to gain from its destruction?

There are a number of discrepancies about the official account of the attack; answers that the Imperial administration have consistently failed to answer. The entire affair is shrouded in mystery. We, the members of Death Star Truth (DST), demand answers. We will not let the deaths of 1.2 million Imperial citizens pass without answers.

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UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ATTACK
...ON THE DEATH STAR.

Was it an inside job?

1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the ability to ward off several fleets of battle ships?

2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?

5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?

6) How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?

7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

8) How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?

Redefine91
05-02-07, 11:03 PM
The deah star blew up simply because of the Galactic empires wish to have an excuse to build another one and blow every planet except corusant up.

Zakariya04
05-03-07, 04:19 AM
Hi geoff,

I hope all is going well wit you.

the answer to your question is:

The will of the force

~~~~~~~~~~
Take it ez
zak

Vega
05-03-07, 04:29 AM
Poor management!

Zakariya04
05-03-07, 04:42 AM
And that of course mr Vega

gross mis-management and incomptenece on a scale even bigger than GWB and 9-11

The Devil Inside
05-03-07, 05:46 AM
1 reason:

george lucas is a plot stealing hack.

spuriousmonkey
05-03-07, 06:26 AM
1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the ability to ward off several fleets of battle ships?

Although tactical awareness and ability of smalll insurgent groups is not undocumented (http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=21478) the question how an entire defense system could be penetrated by some slackers is one of utmost importance. And I do not see why people responded with oneliners and sometimes even a hint of ridicule. Of course the Deathstar was not quite finished and was build by American contractors, but still.


2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?
There are only two answers possible. He was bribed (unlikely) or the orders came from above.


3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

Don't forget to mention that Darth Vader, the second ranking commander, had alleged blood ties to several members of the rebel insurgent forces.


4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?
Since there never has been a DNA test and Luke skywalker is known to be on the emotional side it remains a possibility that Luke was made to believe he was the son of a hero of the republic. Was Darth Vader an agent from the axis of evil? The third party in this conflict. Was this man in fact pulling off the perfect con?


5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?

Once again, Darth Vader is at the center of the mystery. Let me ask you; who benefited from the demise of the death star the most? Some small insurgent forces led by alleged family members of darth vader? Or the axis of evil?


6) How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine?

They can't!



7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

You are on the right track but still not seeing the big picture! Who profited most from the destruction of the death star?


8) How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?

I would say unless someone had the ability to defy the laws of physics the deathstar couldn't have been destroyed by a single missile. A typical missile explodes generating a plasma field of 1000 degrees celsius. How could that melt a generator that is build to withstand 50,000 degrees???????

redarmy11
05-03-07, 06:30 AM
I reckon it was probably shoddily-built in the first place. It was probably put together by Indians (http://www.slipups.com/items/305.html).

Nikelodeon
05-03-07, 06:32 AM
A screw was loose in section 54, level 6, subjunction 23A, panel 783F4.

redarmy11
05-03-07, 06:35 AM
Whoops.

GeoffP
05-03-07, 11:41 AM
I think the phrase "loose screws" is apt here. It also reminds me of a documentary about something.

Sputnik
05-03-07, 11:48 AM
A screw was loose in section 54, level 6, subjunction 23A, panel 783F4.

Checked out the coordinates , it said : Nickelodeons brain .......:m: :p

Question : how did this end up in politics ??

madanthonywayne
05-03-07, 11:56 AM
When I first saw this thread, I thought, "What the hell is this doing in politics?" But now that I've read it, it was freakin' hilarious! Great satire.

RoyLennigan
05-03-07, 02:02 PM
How was an invincible space station destroyed so easily?

Easy? You try hitting a two-meter wide target with a proton torpedo while going 400 m·s^2

GeoffP
05-03-07, 02:04 PM
But that's just it: it's impossible. He couldn't have done it.

Conspiracy!

Nikelodeon
05-03-07, 02:05 PM
Not impossible, highly improbable.

GeoffP
05-03-07, 02:10 PM
If you prefer to believe in the official line and its ridiculously unlikely statements, that's your affair.

I should also note that at no time in history - ever! - has steel blown up. Never.

madanthonywayne
08-13-07, 09:43 PM
This is one of my favorite threads ever. Just thought I'd give it a bump so our new members could check it out.

Orleander
08-13-07, 10:08 PM
LMAO, This is in world politics??

Neildo
08-13-07, 10:22 PM
How were the rebels able to actually take down the Death Star? Easy: it was a movie, not real life. ;)

Amusing opening post though, and response by monkey-boy. Saved. :D

I just hope some of you here don't put Jedi down as your official religion..

- N

Ganymede
08-13-07, 10:37 PM
Actually, the Empire enslaved the Wookies to build the Death Star. So I'm sure they left a few back doors open when it was constructed. This was all the will of the force. Lets take a look at the connections. The construction was overseen by whom? Anakin Skywalker. The construction plans were obtained by whom? Leia Organa Skywalker. The destruction of the battle station was carried out by whom? Luke Skywalker. That's the short answer.

Mr. G
08-13-07, 11:02 PM
why did the Death Star blow up?
It was scripted to do so.

QED

Sheesh.

Learned Hand
08-13-07, 11:15 PM
The imperialists, including General Tarkin, who sought nothing but Machiavellian peace, were hoodwinked by a voodoo wizard in the desert and "forced" to do and believe stupid things, by mind control or otherwise, and the only one smart enough to recognize the trick was Darth Vader, who was really all that was left of those who knew that ancient religion. That's why he escaped, and that's why he personally went after the guy who had the voodoo training with him. He would have succeeded, but some renegade conspirator lied about his future whereabouts on the day that saw the end of Kenobi and would have seen the end of the alliance, and completely took him by surprise.

GeoffP
08-13-07, 11:50 PM
Ladies, gentlemen - the shortest answer to your questions is:

Metaphor.

Mr. G
08-14-07, 12:31 AM
No. It's "Sheesh".

redarmy11
08-14-07, 02:27 AM
Actually, I think you'll find it's: why?

I win again.

Nikelodeon
10-24-07, 05:31 AM
Checked out the coordinates , it said : Nickelodeons brain .......
:p:p:p

GeoffP
10-24-07, 01:13 PM
Quit resurrecting the dead, you. It's illegal in China.

MacGyver1968
10-24-07, 01:19 PM
It's obvious to me...it was inside job...perpetrated by the same government insiders that pulled off 9-11.

Nikelodeon
10-24-07, 01:20 PM
What about Reactor 7?

GeoffP
10-24-07, 01:20 PM
Obviously a Controlled Destruction.

mikenostic
10-24-07, 01:24 PM
The OP reminds me of the dialogue Dante and Randall had about the Death Star in the original Clerks movie:
http://www.whysanity.net/monos/clerks5.html
:roflmao:

GeoffP
10-24-07, 01:33 PM
Yeah, that did kind of suck about the contractors. I mean: sure, they're evil and all, but who turns down a government contract? Although couldn't they have been some kind of Engineering Corps? That would make them Imperials too, and thereby legitimate to vaporize.

Actually, I recall Vader's discussion with an officer who says he "needs more men". Vader threatens to tell the Emperor on him and he says they'll "redouble their efforts". So...maybe they weren't civilians after all. MAYBE THE ENTIRE "CLERKS" SCENE IS A LIE. But who would construct such a lie? What did they want? Who benefitted from such a lie?

I'll tell you who: Big Hollywood, like Kevin McSmithChimpyUniversal, that's who. He faked that whole dialogue, all the while knowing that really it was the Empire Engineering Corps who built the station, not some collection of innocent independent contractors. Anyone who's watched the films as much as Smith - who, I remind you, is a geek - knows about the threatening scene I described above. So he knew! And he exploited his knowledge to make it some kind of scene that other sci-fi geeks would remember and comment on. And they would see "Clerks II".

And they would see "Clerks II".

And they would see "Clerks II".

And they would see "Clerks II!

Which sucked!


And there's the real conspiracy, my friends. Kevin Smith blew up the Death Star to get people to shell out for his next "Clerks" movie. Those bastards blew it all to hell.

cosmictraveler
10-24-07, 01:57 PM
It blew itself up. It was tired of being only third in command and its posinuclaic eletronic computer brain made it a jealouse machine with vengence in its memory banks.

GeoffP
10-24-07, 02:36 PM
What do you think this is, Star Trek or something? You can't trick machines into destroying themselves in Star Wars, you know, you giant gormless Trekkie.

Exhumed
10-24-07, 02:42 PM
There's no doubt it was an inside job, the emperor admitted on tape that he let the plans for death star II get into rebel hands. It was all to lay what he thought was a clever trap.

GeoffP
10-24-07, 03:07 PM
Which, since Smith didn't comment on it in Clerks or Clerks II. proves it was an inside job. Controlled Destruction.

Checkmate!

Nikelodeon
10-24-07, 04:19 PM
Your forgetting that quantum nanotube reinforced steel doesn't melt unless its above 180000 Kelvin.

GeoffP
10-24-07, 04:37 PM
That's a lie. An ex-Imperial sceantist, Dr. Jephen Stones, has proved categorically that the fire was only 150,000 Kelvin. Or that it wasn't. He has also proved that there were no melted quantum reinforced steel girders in the Death Star wreckage, and also that there were.

And isn't it strange that the air cover for the Death Star was gone that day - and that Grand Moff Tarkin refused to put up more air cover? Or that the son of Darth Vader is supposed to have been the one to blow it up? By hitting a two metre wide exhaust port? Come on.

If it walks like a Zentrobian spit-insect, and talks like a Zentrobian spit-insect and skewers human flesh like a Zentrobian spit-insect, then I smell a coverup. Possibly having something to do with the planet Zentrobia.

Checkmate!

DS Troof now!

MacGyver1968
10-24-07, 04:41 PM
Lol!

mikenostic
10-24-07, 04:55 PM
Yeah, that did kind of suck about the contractors. I mean: sure, they're evil and all, but who turns down a government contract? Although couldn't they have been some kind of Engineering Corps? That would make them Imperials too, and thereby legitimate to vaporize.
No, because that would be like calling Blackwater part of the U.S. Armed Forces. Even though they aren't blame free themselves, they aren't the military.

Actually, I recall Vader's discussion with an officer who says he "needs more men". Vader threatens to tell the Emperor on him and he says they'll "redouble their efforts". So...maybe they weren't civilians after all. MAYBE THE ENTIRE "CLERKS" SCENE IS A LIE. But who would construct such a lie? What did they want? Who benefitted from such a lie?
He needed more men in the sense of combatants, not contractors. Besides, that was episode 4 where the Death Star was already completed. They didn't need anymore construction contractors. Now, maybe he might have been asking for some civilian contractors for IT support, electrical/electronic technicians, plumbers and the like. Who knows?

I'll tell you who: Big Hollywood, like Kevin McSmithChimpyUniversal, that's who. He faked that whole dialogue, all the while knowing that really it was the Empire Engineering Corps who built the station, not some collection of innocent independent contractors. Anyone who's watched the films as much as Smith - who, I remind you, is a geek - knows about the threatening scene I described above. So he knew! And he exploited his knowledge to make it some kind of scene that other sci-fi geeks would remember and comment on. And they would see "Clerks II".

And they would see "Clerks II".

And they would see "Clerks II".

And they would see "Clerks II!

Which sucked!


And there's the real conspiracy, my friends. Kevin Smith blew up the Death Star to get people to shell out for his next "Clerks" movie. Those bastards blew it all to hell.
:bugeye: Yeah because even though Clerks was financed on Kevin Smith's credit card for less than $40K, AND shot in black and white, he knew that there would be a sequel 10 years later.
While Clerks 2 was nothing to go do cartwheels over, I don't think it sucked. It had its moments.

Nikelodeon
11-15-07, 09:09 AM
I watched Clerks since, that really sucked.