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witnessjudgejury 09-18-05, 09:41 PM I am sending this letter everywhere to shed some light and shout the truth from the rooftops as it is my job.
I have spent the past 30 years in suicidal depression, unimaginably, fervently seeking the truth and trying to figure out who I am. My name is Paul.
This morning I read the Gospel of Thomas and it all came together for me. I suggest you type "Gospel of Thomas" into your search engine and read it, then read this again.
At times I thought I was God, sometimes Jesus, Sometimes Satan himself, at other times Paul the apostle, John the baptist, Elijah, etc.
When I stare into my eyes in the mirror I see hundreds of faces in succession.
At this time I confess, I am not the Christ, and Jesus Christ did come in the flesh.
5 years ago Kid Rock came out with the song Bawitdaba. It starts out "Who are you" and continues, "Paul with the ball that bang a dang dicky dicky dicky said the boogy said upchuck the boogie" and "Come on Paul" , "Rock the house Paul". At that point I knew that some group or at least Bob the Kid knew who I was. Then Dave Mathews came out with the song Lift me up love "Every Day", where he sings, "come on, come on Paul".
My search continued. Now let me shed light on the Gospel of Thomas. This gospel was not put in the bible probably because until now, it was considered jibberish. In it christ sais that all the apostles and saints will become one. I am that one. He said first I would be disturbed, then I would marvel. I have been disturbed for years with multiple personalities, bipolar disorder, and horrible depression. Imagine if you were all the apostles and saints rolled into one but did not know it for 44 years. You had been tortured and killed many times. Imagine the loneliness and depression. Enough pity.
Christ also said I will reign. This explains why my thoughts and my spirit are in you and are transferred to you. Pay close attention to the changes in your mind and spirit over the next few days, starting last night. These changes come from me.
Christ also sais you will return to James the Just. This is likely the king james bible. read it sometime.
God said he would send a messiah and that he would not be late. Here am I. I am the temporary messiah, here to prepare the world for the coming of the Almighty Jesus Christ. The son of the Father of Light.
I have been emailing TBN. Trinity Broadcasting Network with my thoughts, my anger, and my truth over the past month. I got no response from them other than once they told me I was listening to the father of lies and that I should pray this prayer... Something I have prayed hundreds of times of course. They have hidden the light under the bushel and have been poor shepherds of the millions in their flock. They are nothing more than salesmen. Selling the prosperity doctrine to poor old ladies and milking their social security checks.
Needless to say, the farm was lent to them as Thomas says and it is to be taken away by me for better shepherding and preperation for HIS coming.
It is written that the Son of Perdition (he who is to perish) is coming to rule the world and sit in the seat of God. I am sure he is reading this and will likely come to kill me. I don't care. If it is even possible, I will pop right back like a dandy lion.
CHRISCUNNINGHAM 09-19-05, 12:27 AM Nonsense
Prince_James 09-19-05, 12:46 AM I would have to claim this is pretty outrageous, too.
multiple personalities,then how can you be sure that what you believe is the truth, and that your are the one, or not as the case maybe.bipolar disorder,this is the commonest problem amongst the religious, so how can you be sure your not hallucinating, dreaming, asleep.(did you really read the gospel of thomas, are you absolutely sure.) and horrible depressionand yet nother common problem of the religious, fear of a god, and lack of selfworth, hence depression.
when you wake up, it will all become clear, but unfortunately thats along way off, as your to far gone.
Originally Posted by witnessjudgejury
am sending this letter everywhere to shed some light and shout the truth from the rooftops as it is my job.
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M*W: WJJ, I am concerned for you. You have given yourself an impossible task, one that no god would ask of you. If a god itself cannot "shout the truth from the rooftops," why do you believe you can? You are aiming for unreachable goals which will lead to frustration, failure and deeper depression.
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I have spent the past 30 years in suicidal depression, unimaginably, fervently seeking the truth and trying to figure out who I am. My name is Paul.
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M*W: Paul, before you do anything else, I sincerely want you to see a psychiatrist. If you're already seeing one, maybe you should look into finding another one. If you're taking medication for your suicidal depression, it may not be helping you.
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This morning I read the Gospel of Thomas and it all came together for me. I suggest you type "Gospel of Thomas" into your search engine and read it, then read this again.
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M*W: The GoT is revealing. It certainly makes more sense than the four gospels in the NT. The GoT helps bring the whole gospel story together. I'm not christian, but I've read the GoT. It contains inner wisdom.
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At times I thought I was God, sometimes Jesus, Sometimes Satan himself, at other times Paul the apostle, John the baptist, Elijah, etc.
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M*W: If you're not already on medication for multiple personality disorder (MPD), I suggest you ask your psychiatrist or even family practitioner for a prescription called Seroquel. It's not uncommon for someone with MPD, psychotic depression and schizophrenia to cling to religious themes. Sometimes, it can be devastating and wreck your whole life and family. Religion provides a standard for behavior. Sometimes this can be a good thing, but when you are suffering with severe mental problems, religion can destroy you. If you let me know what city in the USA you live in, I will try to find you a good psychiatrist. If you're not in the USA, I won't be able to recommend anyone. The characters you tend to emulate (God, Jesus, Satan, Paul the Apostle, John the Baptist, Elijah, etc.) are not real and they never existed. You are living in a fantasy, and you need to let go of this behavior.
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When I stare into my eyes in the mirror I see hundreds of faces in succession. At this time I confess, I am not the Christ, and Jesus Christ did come in the flesh.
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M*W: I cannot urge you enough to seek psychiatric help. You don't need to confess to anyone that you are not Christ. I am hearing that you don't like yourself and that you have failed because you're not a fantasy being. Don't do this to yourself. You are Paul, and that's the only person you need to be. You need to lose the fantasy characters and find Paul again.
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5 years ago Kid Rock came out with the song Bawitdaba. It starts out "Who are you" and continues, "Paul with the ball that bang a dang dicky dicky dicky said the boogy said upchuck the boogie" and "Come on Paul" , "Rock the house Paul". At that point I knew that some group or at least Bob the Kid knew who I was. Then Dave Mathews came out with the song Lift me up love "Every Day", where he sings, "come on, come on Paul".
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M*W: I understand that someone in your condition believes that entertainers, lyrics, characters in TV shows, etc., are talking to them or trying to get messages to them. This is not reality. They are not talking to you. They don't know Paul.
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My search continued. Now let me shed light on the Gospel of Thomas. This gospel was not put in the bible probably because until now, it was considered jibberish. In it christ sais that all the apostles and saints will become one. I am that one. He said first I would be disturbed, then I would marvel. I have been disturbed for years with multiple personalities, bipolar disorder, and horrible depression. Imagine if you were all the apostles and saints rolled into one but did not know it for 44 years. You had been tortured and killed many times. Imagine the loneliness and depression. Enough pity.
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M*W: No, Paul, you are not an apostle, saint nor martyr. This is delusional thinking. You are causing your own loneliness and depreession, but I know you won't be able to snap out of it. Please, please go see a psychiatrist. You've suffered enough.
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Christ also said I will reign. This explains why my thoughts and my spirit are in you and are transferred to you. Pay close attention to the changes in your mind and spirit over the next few days, starting last night. These changes come from me.
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M*W: Paul, please PM me and let me know when you will see a psychiatrist. Again, if you are in the USA, I'll try to find you one. The only person you have any control over is yourself. You cannot delay.
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Christ also sais you will return to James the Just. This is likely the king james bible. read it sometime.
God said he would send a messiah and that he would not be late. Here am I. I am the temporary messiah, here to prepare the world for the coming of the Almighty Jesus Christ. The son of the Father of Light.
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M*W: I will be waiting to hear from you that you will begin treatment.
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I have been emailing TBN. Trinity Broadcasting Network with my thoughts, my anger, and my truth over the past month. I got no response from them other than once they told me I was listening to the father of lies and that I should pray this prayer... Something I have prayed hundreds of times of course. They have hidden the light under the bushel and have been poor shepherds of the millions in their flock. They are nothing more than salesmen. Selling the prosperity doctrine to poor old ladies and milking their social security checks.
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M*W: Yes, TBN is not sincere. They're a money-making organization. Stay away from them. They will make promises to you but will not deliver. They don't care about you.
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Needless to say, the farm was lent to them as Thomas says and it is to be taken away by me for better shepherding and preperation for HIS coming.
It is written that the Son of Perdition (he who is to perish) is coming to rule the world and sit in the seat of God. I am sure he is reading this and will likely come to kill me. I don't care. If it is even possible, I will pop right back like a dandy lion.
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M*W: I will wait to hear back from you. It is very important that you don't let me down. No one is going to kill you, and you should care. I care. I don't want to see you suffer anymore.
~ Medicine*Womandid you by any chance read this, before you started this thread.
charles cure 09-19-05, 02:21 PM that whole thing is the most insanely ridiculous thing i have ever heard.
intriguingmoose 09-19-05, 02:34 PM lol. This is the biggest bull shit i've ever seen.
spidergoat 09-19-05, 02:48 PM I don't blame you for getting caught up in this gospel, it's a good one.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm
Don't worry about TBN, these people have been shackled by a literal interpretation of a limited set of texts for too long.
93. <Jesus said,> "Do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they
throw them on the dung-heap. Do not throw the pearls to swine,
lest they grind it [to bits]."
spidergoat 09-19-05, 02:54 PM You should find the Nag Hammadi library, one volume containing translations of all the texts discovered in 1945 in egypt, buried in a jar by coptic monks around 300AD. Around this time, the church was rounding up and destroying all the texts they considered heresy. The monks must have found these books valuable and left them for posterity.
Witness,
You are not cured yet - go back to hospital - you've come out too early.
I have spent the past 30 years in suicidal depression... I have been disturbed for years with multiple personalities, bipolar disorder, and horrible depression.
At least you've reconciled with your mental disorders causing your religious fantasies, unfortunately many theists here have not.
Crunchy Cat 09-20-05, 01:34 AM I am sending this letter everywhere to shed some light and shout the truth from the rooftops as it is my job.
Ho boy, it sounds like you partially lost your sense of self (possibly due to blood flow problems to that part of the brain) and you're in 'one-with-the-universe' ehphoria. I'm 'God', you're 'God', we're all 'God' right?
witnessjudgejury 09-20-05, 06:27 AM You should find the Nag Hammadi library, one volume containing translations of all the texts discovered in 1945 in egypt, buried in a jar by coptic monks around 300AD. Around this time, the church was rounding up and destroying all the texts they considered heresy. The monks must have found these books valuable and left them for posterity.
Thanks much for the info. God bless you.
witnessjudgejury 09-20-05, 06:28 AM Don't you find it amazing that only one of you did not surround my statement with dung?
Crunchy Cat 09-20-05, 08:13 AM Just about as amazing as a seeing a slew of fantastic claims and not one shred of evidence.
witnessjudgejury 09-20-05, 08:46 AM When you have to search through mountains of human dung with your mouth to find your missing pearl, And Benny Hinn is selling the Holy Spirit for $140 on TBN, and God has become extremely thirsty for wine, What do you do?
Give shovels to the dead.
Give rope to all.
Let God make wine.
I smell smoke.
witnessjudgejury 09-20-05, 08:59 AM For your help, pray this simple prayer.
Our Father, Master and Creator of all things, thy kingdom come, thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Amen.
Crunchy Cat 09-20-05, 09:10 AM When you have to search through mountains of human dung with your mouth to find your missing pearl, And Benny Hinn is selling the Holy Spirit for $140 on TBN, and God has become extremely thirsty for wine, What do you do?
1) Consider a smarter way to search for the pearl if it's really that important.
2) Save your $$$ for retirement and don't watch TBN.
3) Question how a fantasy can be thirsty for alcholoic beverages.
witnessjudgejury 09-20-05, 09:28 AM The dead are truly better off completely dead.
Those who wish to live shall awaken, some in the light, some in the dark, some on the Sun.
Don't forget there is an uforgivable sin.
Crunchy Cat 09-20-05, 09:34 AM I would suggest backing up and supporting a claim with evidence. I guarantee that everyone on the forum would be receptive.
Witness,
The dead are truly better off completely dead.There are no degrees of death, one is either dead or not dead.
Those who wish to live shall awaken, some in the light, some in the dark, some on the Sun.You may not have heard but conditions on the sun are extremely hostile to life. Unfortunately we have not overcome the blight of involuntary death yet. Wishing to live hasn’t had any effect yet as we can see from the billions who have wanted to live but have died.
Don't forget there is an uforgivable sin.And you will tell us what this is perhaps?
witness,
Don't you find it amazing that only one of you did not surround my statement with dung? Dung to dung. Why not try to show why your statements are not equally dungful?
You must realize, assuming you are not stupid, that your assertions lack credibility and to simply state such unbelievable fantasies without support is naturally going to attract ridicule. Why now pretend to be surprised?
Michael 09-21-05, 04:01 AM Ho boy, it sounds like you partially lost your sense of self (possibly due to blood flow problems to that part of the brain) and you're in 'one-with-the-universe' ehphoria. I'm 'God', you're 'God', we're all 'God' right?
Yes, I agree, maybe an MRI is called for?
witnessjudgejury 09-21-05, 05:50 AM Let me shed a little more light.
I reign (read the direct translation of the Gospel of Thomas, not an interpretation which is called a translation). My reign is not subject to vote, nor was it a choice that I made. It is simply from the lips of Christ.
Why am I here? As the Bible says: with God, All things are possible. So, my intentions were to save the world. Obviously, I would be rejected because everyone is their own God and worships what they know not. Also, in the Bible it states that the Elect will be saved. These are the 144,000 who have kept Gods commandments. 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes. For these people, I have come. For the rest of the unsaveable, 6 billion people, you are grapes to be trodden under foot in the winepress of the wrath of God. This also, I will see to.
The other reason is simply a legality. God said he would send a saviour and he would not be late. I announced that he was here. No entity can ever (from this point in time on) say to God: "Why did not you send a saviour before it was too late?".
witless: you certainly need somemore treatment, and quickly before you hurt anyone.
These are the 144,000 who have kept Gods commandments. 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes. For these people, I have come. For the rest of the unsaveable, 6 billion people
So even if we convert it's still a lottery with exceedingly poor odds. Why bother?
For the rest of the unsaveable, 6 billion people, you are grapes to be trodden under foot in the winepress of the wrath of God. This also, I will see to.
I would like to end up a Cabernet, if I could, served up with a prime rib. Thanks.
c7ityi_ 09-21-05, 10:24 AM For atheists, to see is to believe, for theists, to believe is to see. Is there really a difference (separation) between these two?
Both of them are quite alike, since they don't agree with each other.
c7,
For atheists, to see is to believe, for theists, to believe is to see. Is there really a difference (separation) between these two? Only at the most fundamantal level when determinining what is true and what is not.
Witness,
My reign is not subject to vote, nor was it a choice that I made. But since no one else recognizes your claim to kingdom it is of zero value.
It is simply from the lips of Christ.Well no. Christ is a mythical fictional character.
Why am I here? To add comedy to this forum?
c7ityi_ 09-21-05, 10:44 AM Christ is a mythical fictional character.
So are Poseidon and Hercules, still they are/were "real", in one way or another. The people in myths might even be more real than the people you see on earth.
spidergoat 09-21-05, 11:27 AM This saying is great:
Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which
is hidden from you will become plain to you. For there is nothing
hidden which will not become manifest."
dr. cello 09-21-05, 12:07 PM i sense something. a presence i've not felt since i was an orderly at a lunatic asylum.
Crunchy Cat 09-21-05, 12:18 PM Let me shed a little more light...
How about shedding some evidence instead?
spidergoat 09-21-05, 12:21 PM Evidence of what? A subjective experience? God in this case isn't someone you need to believe in, but something you seek and find within yourself. Even an atheist should appreciate the Gospel of Thomas.
c7,
The people in myths might even be more real than the people you see on earth. What does "more real" mean? And the logic behind your statement is?
Crunchy Cat 09-22-05, 12:49 AM Evidence of what? A subjective experience? God in this case isn't someone you need to believe in, but something you seek and find within yourself. Even an atheist should appreciate the Gospel of Thomas.
Little things like a plethora of fantastic claims such as:
* Kid Rock and Dave Matthews are encouraging "me" personally.
* 'Christ' exists.
* 'Christ' said "I will reign"
* 'Spirit' exists.
* Any changes in you mind and 'Spirit' over the next few days are from "me" specifically.
* 'Messiah's exist.
* I am the temporary 'Messiah'.
* The 'Son of Peridition' exists.
* 'God' exists.
witnessjudgejury 09-22-05, 08:40 AM The Hand of God is raised in anger in the Gulf.
a million flee, not in fear or repentance, but in anger at their inconvenience.
What will HE do?
A pearl is a pear even if it sets the world on fire.
Is it not worth searching through a mountain of dead goats to find a single dying sheep?
c20H25N3o 09-22-05, 09:00 AM It is written that the Son of Perdition (he who is to perish) is coming to rule the world and sit in the seat of God. I am sure he is reading this and will likely come to kill me. I don't care. If it is even possible, I will pop right back like a dandy lion.
lol. I'm sure your heart is in the right place mate but I'm not sure if you have understood the message of Jesus. Let your faith be apparent through the works of the Holy Spirit in your life. Spouting on about being personally persecuted by some 'Son of Perdition' does not help with the credability issues you seem to be experiencing on this forum.
peace
c20
Is it not worth searching through a mountain of dead goats to find a single dying sheep?Oi witless, I would, but that humanism for you.
so when theres a major disaster, and people are buried under rubble, you would'nt bother to help them, a very christian attitude.
dr. cello 09-22-05, 10:40 AM god's hand in anger looks a remarkable lot like hurricanes, which are naturally occurring phenomenon. if he wants people to repent he should probably start throwing green lightning bolts which leave the message 'god is really pissed', otherwise we'll be able to explain it with this tricksy science of ours.
regarding sheep and goats: no, no it really isn't. i'd rather have a live sheep that isn't buried under dead goats. why the hell is a sheep buried under dead goats?
Quantum Quack 09-22-05, 08:10 PM WitnessJudgeJury,
No dount By now after 3 days since posting your thread starter you are beginning to realise that you are yet again been misled by your rampant imagination.
The world is not moving into end times, the world is continuuing along it's usual path.
Now you are probably feeling a bit dissappointed now that you have yet again proved that you are having problems in rationalising your extraordinary experiences. It isn't hard to imagine that religion is an easy way to ground your experiences, after all that is what they seem to lead to. yes?
End times, "must" pronounce the second comming, Gods wrath etc etc.
It is sad that you must be so exhausted and mentally frazzled that you must as a way of maintaining any semblence of sanity rationalise your suffering steaped in religious prophecy.
Well one must ask what is there to be learned from this embarrassment and self dissappointment. What are you going to do to avoid going down this path yet again some time in the future.
What have you learned about how fear is manifested in your thoughts and actions? How your imagination is so distorted with fear that you want all of us to join you in fighting it [ your imagination ]?
You mention the experience of possession and your fear and yet jubilation has required a grounding in religious prophecy.
You have experienced a truth about how we are all a composite of everyone else and have reacted to this profound truth in a paranoid fashion.
Unfortunately you have failed to realise that within the essence of who you are exists all souls and not just the 12 or so you have focussed on.
Advice:
A way out of this mess if you can get your mind into a stable enough state is to get a picture of the planet earth and imagine you are 6 billion people all in one. That you are experiencing a sort of soul refraction and the challenge is to be all people simultaneously and not a bit of this and a bit of that. Then extend this exercise universally and when you finally realise that if you are being possessed by every soul in the universe your problems will simply dissappear as returning to being infinite nullifies the focuss on just a few. Look to the infinite and not the finite.
After all we are all a combination of everything else.
So take your dissappointment and your embarrassment and use it as a way of learning how to reconcile your extraordinary experiences in a way that promotes rational behaviour and not irrational behaviour.
BTW, end times has already happened years ago and well...what can I say to all the disappointed folk?...except that..... God changed his mind.
Best of luck!! :)
Pm me if you wish
witnessjudgejury 09-23-05, 05:32 AM Any thoughts on what we're doing today.
Would you like me to copy my latest emails to TBN comments and prayer?
witnessjudgejury 09-23-05, 06:20 AM Of course, if I were there I would certainly help them. Anyone in need who comes in contact with me gets the best help they've ever had. I talk to 70 people a day, one on one, for an average of 6 minutes each. Every one of them thanks me. Most of them tell me that I was very helpful, or kind, or professional, or that they really appreciated how easy I made it for them to solve their problem.
Though I am a pauper who can't afford cable TV and have been wearing the same pair of shoes for 10 years, I do have 10 years of college education which is probably more than any of you. As for my sanity, you decide.
I do sense some anger in your comments, but, I don't have time to read them. This is a good sign, because if I can spark something in you then, maybe there is some hope for your salvation. Repent and cry to God for help. Obey his commandments, and all will be well. However, I know I have angered the Devil by foiling his plans and since you are spiritually dead, you are open to his spirit and thoughts as they work through you like the wind blowing through the reeds.
Isn't it funny how the people fleeing Texas are sitting in traffic while the gas prices double before they even get anywhere?
witnessjudgejury 09-23-05, 06:49 AM At the beginning of the week, did someone say something about paying close attention to your thoughts and spirits over the next few days?
Witless no, but there was some lunatic ramblings.
which unfortunately are still going on.
so you work in a call centre "so what", how the f**k you got the job, I dont know perhaps you volunteered.
what you mean is you where kept back at school, with you mental health problems theres no wonder at it.
and ah diddums, ask a staving african, if he's ever had any shoes or seen tv, "so f**king what".
theres no anger here on this forum, I and I think, I speak for most, dont like being talked down to, by someone who is quite clear mad as a hatter.
and to finish you cant foil the plans of a non-existent thing, it has none.
since you are spiritually dead, you are open to his spiritthis is an oxymoron you cant be spiritually dead, and open.
Crunchy Cat 09-23-05, 09:18 AM Any thoughts on what we're doing today.
Would you like me to copy my latest emails to TBN comments and prayer?
I would be far more interested in evidence of the fantastic claims made.
spidergoat 09-23-05, 11:41 AM Little things like a plethora of fantastic claims such as:
* Kid Rock and Dave Matthews are encouraging "me" personally.
Yes, I doubt that, too, but remember, he has only recently discovered the non-canonical gospels, and is still caught up in an intrusive, personal God.
* 'Christ' exists.
Like the Buddha exists, not literally, but as a symbol of the enlightened state which abolishes the illusion of separateness.
* 'Christ' said "I will reign"
Yes, the faith that enlightened beings will prevail over the forces of darkness.
* 'Spirit' exists.
Depends what is meant by that.
* Any changes in you mind and 'Spirit' over the next few days are from "me" specifically.
Yes, I have some doubts about that, too.
* 'Messiah's exist.
Yes, I think a messiah can only hint at the possibilities which only you can manifest.
* I am the temporary 'Messiah'.
True, as are we all.
* The 'Son of Peridition' exists.
Depends what that means.
* 'God' exists.
Again, this depends on what that word signifies. Jesus may not have meant the same thing as modern Christians.
witnessjudgejury 09-24-05, 06:49 AM I searched through the nausiating pile of Gnostic verbiage and scriptures and found absolutely nothing of value. Even the direct translation of Thomas is incorrect and found lacking according to the one I read on the net.
The one I originally read was apparently removed from the net as I can't find it anymore. Apparently the posters were not happy with the number of hits they got from the emails I sent out. For example, I read something to the effect. "A woman must become a man".
Of course I can't explain this other than to make two possible guesses.
1)reincarnation
2)feminism and the fact that women now have careers and many athletic women do not even menstruate any longer.
Oh well, I will continue to stir ALL of the waters, destroying what I will until something of value floats to the surface.
at the moment all thats floats are just turds, you are full of verbal diarrhoea.
spidergoat 09-26-05, 11:43 AM Thus in Saying #114, it is to be understood that
"male" symbolizes the pneumatic (spiritual, or Gnostic)
Christians, and "female" symbolizes the psychic (unenlightened,
or orthodox) Christians, rather than actually referring to males
and females.
Michael 09-26-05, 07:22 PM at the moment all thats floats are just turds, you are full of verbal diarrhoea.Actually floating poo is a sign of celiac disease, due to the inability to absorb fats.
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