Hey yo people...In uni today i nearly got into a fight with some big fat type of guy...I'm just about 5'8" and just normal built, not skinny or fat...I work out and shit but I ain't big or nothing...anyways this guy is like twice the size of me and offered to fight me coz it got heated..i shitted myself and backed out and now i feel like a dick...

If you are going to fight someone who is twice your size..how would you go about it?...

I was thinking like maybe targeting a certain part, like keep on targeting his legs and taking him down like that?

Any help please?

Oh im new here too...so hi!...lol

I'm a 19 year old guy from London...sorry for being rude and just starting with a topic like this but i kinda need help with it...thnx

well, technically he would whoop ur ass if he's twice as big as you... but as we all know, if you kick him in the nuts, he's gonna lie on the ground and squeal like a baby...

You need a crash course in Ikido

Yeah he is seriously twice my size...but the nuts is a good target, i was thinking of like keep going for his legs...coz im much faster then him...he's big but slow...

whats ikido?..i thought it was aikido...

I wouldn't suggest Aikido or anything like that for you. It's a fine art, but it takes a great deal of training, many years, to become combat effective, and even then it wouldn't help against a trained opponent because it requires the Uke to make the mistake first. If you really want to learn to deal with bigger guys, try one of these methods:

A) Learn how to not get them riled up.
B) Build your body muscle mass and eat healthy, so as to become a bigger guy.
C) Learn a martial art that provides quick gains in self defense abilities, such as the practical Krav Maga, the leg-intensive Muay Thai, or the ground-fighting system Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

Or just aim for the nuts, and then poke him in the eye!:D :p

Oh I must have missed the A... :bugeye:
I don't know anything about martial arts not to mention spelling them...

About the big guy, yeah, the nuts is probably the best spot to strike. Also try the eyes... Never been in a situation like that before, so I'm not the one you should be listening to anyway...

If you are going to fight someone who is twice your size..how would you go about it?...

I was thinking like maybe targeting a certain part, like keep on targeting his legs and taking him down like that? Just smack him as hard as you can straight in his face :D . If you hit him right (with you fist hitting his face at a slight angle) and catch his nose towards the bottom you could snap his nose i.e. break it and there is no way he will be abel to fight you then, at least not until his nose heals. If the nose has been broken once it doesn't take much to break it again, so if he does come after you you have a weak spot right there ;) :D .

One thing that really helps with fighting bigger buys is being super-aggressive and confident. Basically, turn yourself into the predator. Instead of you being the person cowering when he says 'I'm going to kill you' look him straight in the eye can tell him that you're going to rip him to shreds...

If you are going to start the fight, that's the best way to do it. Otherwise, completely forget what I just told you :)

As for how to go about it - why fight in the first place? What is their to gain? What are you risking?

If you want combat-knowledge, obviously martial arts is the way to go, although there is nothing in the world that will make you into a better fighter in 30 seconds. Just like there is no magic pill that will make fat people lose weight.

Personally, I do Hapkido (think of it as well rounded military-style aikido), Ninjitsu (vicious, dirty, direct, aggressive, well-rounded), and Kali (weapons fighting).

Any of those would be good choices for learning how to 'fight', but like I said, there is no magic pill. If you trained hard in one or all of those for a couple of months, you'd have a good bet of doing a lot better in a fight. But that's it - it would increase your chances.

Perhaps, if you studied for a couple years, then you could easily handle the guy you're talking about, but don't expect anything magical.

I suppose if you've already made up your mind and you're going to go and try fight the guy tomorrow, I could tell you a few general targets to aim for, and a few basic things to do..

But until I know why you want to fight the guy, what's the point?

Aikedo is primarily an art of self-defense. It's a good martial art, but if you want to learn to fight Judo or Tae Kwan Do is probably better.

Well, sad to say I got into my first fight yesterday and from that experience I'd have to say have a few buddies with you :) Is it fair? No. Will you win? Most likely.

I fought a massive dude once. We were both 15 but he was a grade lower than me. He was really tall and really fat and he had red hair like those "o-doyle rules!" guys from that adam sandler movie.
It was one of those super planned fights where you know about it for 4 days before and it was really bad because both his friends and mine were saying "man, i wouldn't go through with it if I were you" and everyone was telling me he'd been doing kung-fu for 4 years so by the time I got to fight him I was shitscared.
Also, because it was planned, everyone in the school knew about it so about 200 people followed me and the oaf around the school grounds looking for a good place to fight, this added to the nerves factor.
We decided to fight on the main football oval and a ring formed around us of about 400 people and that amount just kept growing because everyone saw the huge crowd on the oval and ran up. It sucked because alot of girls were now there too.
But when we looked at eachother I realised he was at least AS nervous as me so I just ran up and king hit him in the side of his fat head and his eyes went icey, I got all excited and danced around him repeatedly punching him in the head, and his swings were so slow that it was really easy to weave them, just as a teacher broke through the crowd he did land one hit on me and it was pretty heavy, he busted my lip but by that time his face was pretty much a canvas of blood.
We got dragged down to the principal who said we have to spend our next few months worth of lunchtimes picking up trash off the playground.
It was funny, that loser actually did it and I would laugh at his lame garbage manish ass every lunch time.

Anyway, the thing is, most people are scared of fighting but do it anyway, if someones scared and you decide you aren't going to be, you have a much greater chance of winning.
This guy outweighed me by about 100 lbs and studied kung-fu but I had a hundred times more experience in the art of planned schoolyard fights and I knew to never let him see how scared I was, I acted overly confident from day one and this would have really freaked him out.
Don't worry about "targeting his legs", it never goes as planned, when you get into the fight all that means is you'll probably kick him once in the shins and then start flailing wildly like you would have anyway. Might as well start flailing from the get go, just make sure he thinks that you think you're going to win.

R2P's fighting tip #1:

Always fight somewhere that you can pick something up and use it as a weapon (if you can decide where the fight takes place).

Get a brain and buy a gun.

heh, if you're gonna go with weapons, go with a blade, its more fun. and leaves less evidence.

reformed;

I challenge you to a duel. I'll use my gun and you use your swiss army knife. We'll see what happens.

hey now, if you have a gun, i'll take a gun too thank you. i'm assuming your opponent is unarmed.

i challenge you to a REAL dual. Fencings the game, foil. ;)

aluminum foil?

lol. no no no.

foil, the trad sword of fencing. since you didn't even know that, i'd obviously make you my bitch. ;)

they may not know what foil fencing is but I sure do and I'll take ya on!

if you MUST fight then just keep out of the way till he gets tired then go for the nuts!

but of course my OFFICIAL advice is to avoid the fight.

Thanks people..i really appreciate all your advice apart from the people who said go and get a weapon...lol

Originally posted by Eminem
Hey yo people...In uni today i nearly got into a fight with some big fat type of guy...I'm just about 5'8" and just normal built, not skinny or fat...I work out and shit but I ain't big or nothing...anyways this guy is like twice the size of me and offered to fight me coz it got heated..i shitted myself and backed out and now i feel like a dick...

If you are going to fight someone who is twice your size..how would you go about it?...

I was thinking like maybe targeting a certain part, like keep on targeting his legs and taking him down like that?

Any help please?

I have a black -belt in karate, but my advice to you is: you are not a coward for backing off....trying to hurt one person out of 6 billion is like pissing in the wind...you may feel humiliated, try to avoid the person..even if you did fight and you win..there will be bigger and better fighters..what you have to do is analyze why you got into the argument..and if you are wrong apologise....again , it takes a great deal of courage.....being afraid is not adisgrace..we all get afraid.....
The adult thing to do is to apologise ..and get on with your academic work....hate will eventually take over like a cancer!! stop it now
best wishes dominic

well said IXL,

let me add to this that you should only fight someone if you know that you can win, but if you know that you can win you shouldn't fight the other person. One of life's little paradoxes. And if you know you can't win you shouldn't fight hime either.

Why fight in the first place?

Stay safe! :)

There's alot to be said for winning a fight, and losing one for that matter.
Great at building character.
But yeah, I try my hardest to avoid them now. I'm glad I had the fights I did though, every aspect of life is a lesson and fights are one of the bigger lessons.

Originally posted by IXL777
I have a black -belt in karate, but my advice to you is: you are not a coward for backing off....trying to hurt one person out of 6 billion is like pissing in the wind...you may feel humiliated, try to avoid the person..even if you did fight and you win..there will be bigger and better fighters..what you have to do is analyze why you got into the argument..and if you are wrong apologise....again , it takes a great deal of courage.....being afraid is not adisgrace..we all get afraid.....
The adult thing to do is to apologise ..and get on with your academic work....hate will eventually take over like a cancer!! stop it now
best wishes dominic Bleh don't listen to this ;)

Get an asstray or something and hit him hard (prolly a few times) don't hold back :)

Originally posted by Bachus
Bleh don't listen to this ;)

Get an asstray or something and hit him hard (prolly a few times) don't hold back :)

thats exactly what it is an asstray.....If you want to fight , join a martial-arts club...you will be sick of fighting the higher belt you go..secondly , it takes more courage to step away from a fight..

Originally posted by Bachus
Bleh don't listen to this ;)

Get an asstray or something and hit him hard (prolly a few times) don't hold back :)

you will be quite fucked if you do this to someone who really knows how to fight, because they probably will see this as a serious threat and will respond accordingly...

I know many will disagree with me, but I have been thinking, observing and experimenting for a long time [from a martial arts background]

The short answer:

external reality is an expression of the inner world [of you], therefore any conflict you experience is an externalisation of an aspect of youself that you are at war with. By changing the internal dialogue, you affect the outer. This requires an understanding that all is connected and that judgment creates imbalances in your perception of the universe [judging says THIS is better than THAT when in reality it is all part of the same thing].

Also energy is perceivable, but most the time our heads are so filled with crap that we don't notice things happening around us. Outbreaks of energy [whether positive or negative] always happens with buildup, if you stay in the NOW you will always find a way out or a way to redirect or avoid conflict. The staying in the Now bit is hard at first because of the constant conditioning to think about everything else but the now.

If all else fails, kick him in the nads and open palm to the nose, followed by an elbow to the ground;)

[only joking, i stand behind what i wrote [last para not included, except in extreme situations], but like i said most people will have a problem with it >>i am my harshest critic, but my reality seems to back up my hypothesis, with a general trend toward less conflict]

It is quite a dense packet of info, the best advice i can give anyone for any situation, is stay in the NOW.

If you there was no other choice, I'd recommend Hap-Ki-Do. Mixes in Judo, Karate, a few other martial arts. It teaches self defense, and counters to attacks. Even then, I wouldnt fight a guy twice my size.

People fight because they believe they live in a limited universe with limited energy. Therefore they feel the need to steal energy from other people [through threat, emotional control, authority control etc] to supplement the energy theft from their own stores.

They see energy as a limited resource, therefore they hoard or actively seek out others' energy. One way to steal another's energy is to physically intimidate someone.

This is where most will not agree with me: we create our reality 100% [infinite free-will universe, accept total responsibility for self, no longer victim status] so if someone threatens me, they choose me for a reason, ie they sense they are able to steal energy from me. The solution is to not provide them with a reason to attack. The best way to do this is to be totally grounded in your own centre, neither attacking nor defending [these are polarised game plans] but chaotically neither/both.

Someone attacking needs someone to play the other side of the game, otherwise they get confused or the attack bounces back onto them. It's easier to find someone else to bother. They are not able to ENGAGE you. This however, requires a chaotically balanced view of them, ie no thoughts either way allows no purchase for their energy hooks. Most times they will not even be aware and just go onto someone else.

Like I said, this is not a commonly held view of reality, but I have seen it work in a consistent, cohesive, chaotically complex manner. Also better and better over time and practice.