Femme fatales and Macho's

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  1. Labomba Registered Member

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    Why do men/woman get attracted to the "wrong"person for them.
    The Macho's and the Femme Fatales.
     
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  3. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    Because of what society has become. People now believe they want a certain type of person because it's cool but in doing this they deny what may be good for them.

    Another reason is because some people are blind and/or stupid.

    The latter is more often true
     
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  5. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Because they confuse infatuation with love.....also the cool factor kicks in. That's why you see many girls date A-holes when a guy who is tenfold better for her is in front of her as her friend. However.....there are exceptions to this. Some girls do date the right guys, and some guy friends do just talk to girls to get laid though the sleazy ones usually give up after a while.

    Macho males represent the marketed Alpha male.....the ever so prized...the oh-so-cool must have hunk of the season...he's so damn cool that he must have a amazing sense of humor, a 14 inch cock and a Porche in the garage, with a face to boot.

    Date someone who makes you laugh and makes you want them to be around.....looks only go so far in life...***it's all cliche but for my lack of knowledge it helps me come off smart****

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  7. Labomba Registered Member

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    I don't think it has to do anything with cool, because that's also individual related, that's the same with taste in things.
    What's beauty and what's ugly!? That's for everybody different...

    Afcourse you're blind if you fall for the wrong person (if you know it's a wrong person), but why people keep on doing that.

    Is it maybe because these particularry persons never be totally yours? You think you can change this person, and tame them?
     
  8. Abdiel Registered Senior Member

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    I'll agree with Thor about the society part, but isn't it society which makes that person stupid?

    I think that the human creates all sorts of false hopes about things all the time. Of course hope isn't a terrible thing, nay its actually a wonderful thing, false hopes on the other hand may be bad.

    Building ourselves up upon our own selfish wishes. I mean it's not that the person is wrong in anyway is it? The way I see it is that love is a tremendous emotion, so powerful that just the notion that one could fall in love dilutes their mind into gloryifing their desired mate. Furthermore, sometimes other emotions may play into the role of keeping, or taking on a mate which otherwise may be less desirable.

    Or maybe not, I'll still place my money with Thor's society bid. Oh man we're controlled by our society, so much...
     
  9. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    We are also not true to ourselves....how many times have you hid your feelings for someone???....it has to do a lot with society....believe it or not your culture shapes you to a great extent and the western culture is very flawed in many of it's concepts ...but then again which culture isn't

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  10. Labomba Registered Member

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    Oke, society and status have a lot do with it.
    But why can a dangerous woman drive a man into mad things.
    I have seen guys who have been in the most worst relationships and weren't good for them.
    But they kept on holding on and couldn't let her go, while they knew she was "bad news"
     
  11. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Because those woman have those mens balls in a jar. Face it..those men weren't confident enough in themselves to stand up to them. They just weren't or aren't confrontational types.
     
  12. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    Okay...people are juming on the society bandwagon *time to use the charm* Groovy!

    We're told everyday that we must have things that aren't good for us, just look at fast food, fashion (and those uncomfortable clothes), cigarettes, alcohol, etc. So why can't shallow, somewhat attractive people who care for nothing but themselves and their labido be any different?

    Even if someone knows that the person they're with is bad for them, they just can't quit. Maybe it's like cigarettes. I don't know.

    There are some level headed people who actually choose the nice person over much more macho counterparts who wouldn't have given a flying toss about them. I have proof!

    But I shall end here until someone calls me name then it's hair pulling time *sharpens claws*
     
  13. Labomba Registered Member

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    But those "wrong persons" teach us at last one thing...
    That's after that you know what you Don't want

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    At least the people that intent to learn from their mistakes !

    Claws back at ya "scratch"
     
  14. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    Yes that is true, sometimes they realise they made a mistake and try to learn from it. Once bitten, twice shy. But it's not always the case. Some people end up with the same type of person again and again, the only thing different is the name.

    But kudos to those who end up with someone better, someone who could care for them and love them rather than use them or whatever
     
  15. ProCop Valued Senior Member

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    A research was made in the USA about persons who disappeared, and went on living under an asumed identity. Funny, they had escapen from some banal existence in a small house with a big family and when they were found they were living in similair small house ..etc. It was more or less a try to escape from themselves.

    Shakespeare: Character is fate.
     
  16. Labomba Registered Member

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    I think in this lifetime, you make mistakes and will make them untill you learn from them. (that's what's life about, isn't it, learning)
    Karakter is made on early age, but it's foolishness to think it's not to change.
    I think the human being is capable to survive in the most complicated situations, and therefore the most flexible living thing on this planet.
    People get what they can handle, and 1 person will make the same mistakes over and over and the other will learn quick and change it's direction.
    But people do intend to stick what's farmilliar to them, and what feels comfortable and save.
    (referring to the people in the small hous

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    Fear is our biggest enemy, fear of changes...
    But that's why it's so strange people stick to what's not good for them, is that also because they get used to be treatend wrong and get used to be miserable and are lost when they suddenly not feel miserable annymore?
     
  17. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Labomba: But why can a dangerous woman drive a man into mad things. I have seen guys who have been in the most worst relationships and weren't good for them.
    But they kept on holding on and couldn't let her go, while they knew she was "bad news"

    For the same reason why heroin addicts continue to use even though their lives are slipping away. They get 'hooked' 'strung-out' on the other person. If they leave they suffer 'withdrawl' which is painful and so they stay because it gives them momentary relief...and then it gets bad again.

    I don't agree that just because a male is macho means he is wrong or bad or an asshole. Macho only means aggressively virile, which in my book can be a good thing. Macho does not mean lies, deceit, brutality etc.

    Sometimes the wrong person is just someone who does not feel the same feelings as you do and still you cannot let go of them, and that person could be nice and all o' that. Yet they are still wrong.

    Lambomba wrote:I think in this lifetime, you make mistakes and will make them untill you learn from them. (that's what's life about, isn't it, learning)

    Oh I so agree with this. I think that people who slaughter us in relationships fortify us if we are paying attention. I look back on people who were like that in my life and realize that they were my greatest teachers. The more dangerous the teacher the greater the lesson, the stronger we become when we learn from it. Our defenses also become more solid and our vision clearer. I think anyone who is blind in love whether they love someone nice or not is lost. If we don't learn the lesson then we are doomed to keep repeating until the message is driven home. In that sense the wrong mate isn't really wrong at all. In fact they become exactly what we need in order to challenge ourselves. It is never really about the other person but about our weaknesses.
     
  18. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    SEX!!!

    One of my mates is what you call a handsome italian stallion, with black hair and a muscular chest and good abs, he is all dick and no brains, he cheats on his girlfriend all the time, but Really I can not blame him too much if you see the length of trouble these other females go through to get their ass tapped by him. They all tell him how they appriciate his personality and blablabla, but the truth is that the man has got nothing remotely funny or intelligent story to tell....Their appreciation could better be rated in inches instead.

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    I really love to hang out with this guy, cause he gets me invited to parties with juicy chicks
     
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  19. Labomba Registered Member

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    SEX!

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    Good for you your friend has no brains and has no clue what he's doing for you and why you hang out with him hehehehehehehe
    Good for you too, that if the girls find out that he's nothing more than a walking vibrator, they might turn to you and appreciate some personality for a change!

    It's better to have a personality that comes with a dick, than to have a dick with personality

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  20. Blaah! Guest

    labomba and lucysnow get the idea... There are no wrong choices, coz even the "wrong" choices are right choices if you pay attention and learn from them. I look back at all my relationships... He he none of em have worked out to this point, but thats ok coz I've learned something about myself from all of em. Life has an uncanny way of serving up the lessons you need to learn at just the right time you need to learn them. Reminds me of a line from a Nirvana song... "I need you around to remind me what not to become"
     
  21. Labomba Registered Member

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    Blaah...

    Well Blaah,
    Totaly agree with you. I have been in many, (have)
    I never am sorry for the things I did, or the men in my life.
    Because they all have teached me things about myself.
    It's more that I am sorry for the things I didn't do, mostely because of them.
    I think these days, life is a big rush, and people don't have the time like in the old days to get used to eachother.
    Life just goes to fast these days, and there are a lot of things that you are expected to do. It's not oldfashioned annymore that men are suppose to work and woman suppose to take care of the kids.
    These days you have somebody in your life for a certain periode where he/she fits in. You grow and you grow apart... and you go on with your life and meet new people.

    Relations are like a mirror.
    They reflect yourself on you. And that's why it's so difficult, because the hardest thing in life is to acnolige your darker sides and your bad habbits, and the one next to you will reflect this on you. And also in a lot of cases will get the blame from you because they tell you.

    The moral of this story.....

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    Learn to look in that mirror yourself, learn from your mistakes and that will bring you far in life!
     
  22. cthulhus slave evil servant Registered Senior Member

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    you can be attracted to some1 for any number of resons. hardly any oif wich are rashional. you can see some1 and start watering at the mouth wanting to fuck her. but that doesnt mean your gonna go grab the girl. just think first.
    "sure. im attracted to 'em. why?" and the odds are youl find some stupid reson that really sux. then think about what kinda person do you want? a sycho killer bitch ready to jump on any1 and tear out there soul (my persanle fav...). a kind loving caring girl with compasiona dn tenderness to share (i cant stand em...). or a tottal slut ready to lick you any time of day (this ones ok to.). there are a thousand choices none of wich is a wrong choice. some1 may very much be suited for that 'empty headed stag'. but if your not the one suited for them than 4get it.
    sociaty has a major role in it you know. so does self asteem. people feel low and unworthy "but if i can geth that hunk il be at the top". but if ur at the topo just because of who u fucked last night than ur not there. they are. and u are little, if anything, more than another rung on there social ladder leting them step all over you. but as long as every1's having fun im fine. ok enugh typing im gonna go light a dog on fire. cyaz!
     
  23. Jenyar Solar flair Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe in relation to yourself, everybody is either more or less macho/fatale. People are attracted to people who have something they want, i.e. 'on offer' - it's probably because nobody goes for someone who is less macho or 'safer'. If you think about it 'macho' or 'femme fatale' only describe a certain attitude, not neccesarily a type of person.
     

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