This is the worst freakin invention in the history of mankind. It makes going to the grocery store such a betch. Everything is all good untill you make it to the checkout register, with your ****. Then you see the petite female bag girl asking if you prefer paper or plastic...then the guilt comes in...

Your options are A - Feel guilty as hell as the little female packs your groceries for you, struggling with the gallon of milk you bought and struggling even harder to chuck the heavy bag of groceries into your shopping cart... As you leave you hang your head in shame as you realize that the 105 female had to bag your ****, as you are a young strong and healthy male, and all you did was stand and watch.


Option B - Give into your cultural biases and start helping the girl pack your bags, knowing full well that if it was another male doing the packing you would not even think about helping him. All the time knowing that the bag girls wages are coming out of your pocket and you end up doing most of her job...

:(

Well... dont feel guilty, she/he asked for this job and gets paid.

Exactly. It's their job. I used to be a bag boy and whenever I go to the store I bag my own "****". Wether it's a boy or girl, doesn't matter. They are gonna put my damn watermelon on my eggs anyhow.

I don't think I'd let them do it. I'd say thanks, but no thanks, and I'd pack my own bag. Having said this, and as Esoteric pointed out, with the cultural bias it might appear that you are being rude to the packer. Still...I'd rather pack my own bags.

We don't have bagpersons here, we have to do it all ourselves.

:bugeye: i pack my own gallon of soymilk with my own girly arms thank you
geez man, if she can't lift a gallon of milk, how does she ever make herself a bowl of cereal in the morning? get over yourself and your big manly muscles.

Esoteric
how do you think she got to a point where she did not have good muscle strength?
it sounds like a job like that would be good for the women to build up her strength to be able to hold the door open for guys like you in the future

the fact that you call the "women" female BAG BOYS
suggests you are actualy a shovenist
you need to learn to respect women as indeviduals not just hopeless helpless little wall flowers



:bugeye: :rolleyes:

I've never heard that person called a 'bag boy' before, we have always called them baggers in my area. I guess at sometime they switched over to that to be less chauvinistic.

If I was the bagger and a man felt the need to help me, I honestly would be offended. It's the same as this withered old men that can barely hold the door open as they walk through themself, insisting upon holding it for me. Please...I'm young and I have more than enough strength to open doors and lift gallons of milk.

To see a petite female struggle with a large bag of groceries is no different than to see a male struggle with a large suitcase...

I believe that if it doesn't kill them it makes them stronger and getting used to it, otherwise they should get another job. Do not feel guilty, these people are having a good workout instead of accumulating fat having a sitting deskjob!

During college, I was having a job a offset production line, some days more than 16.000 lbs of paper was going through my hands and after the first day I felt like beaten with clubs, but after two months I was doing the job whisteling....

We don't have 'em here, but it doesn't seem such a bad job for a young lad/lass to be doing. I would rather not have them though to be honest. Pack your own bloody bags. I'd rather them just knock a penny off the beans than pay folk to do 'work' which takes a couple of blooody minutes and little effort. Jesus, why not hire people to wipe your arse for you as well.

As for women being offended when men do shit for 'em, well, sod off then. I hold doors open for men and women alike, and if some ratty tart has a bitch at me for being a male chauvinist pig, then I'd give her a good slap. After all, why discriminate 'cos she's a girl. Give her a slap like anyone else.

I just try and be helpful.

Why the hell be offended. People are only trying to be nice. Just thank them and get on with life. It's too damn short to get offended about crap like that.

Why do you have people filling your bags? I never saw such a thing in Europe.

Hans

I'm not talking about some all-consuming offense. I simply mean that in the moment I would be offended. As soon as they left...no problem. I just think it is dumb, if some man is going to fall all over himself to make sure that a girl does not have to pack his bags. That is rude when it is their job.

And blunther, you could slap me...but trust me, I fight back, and I'm not a weak little girl.

thank god for U-scans. :)

U-scans as in self checkout? Those are nice I must admit :)

U scans

the spotty teen u scans the goods, but that still leaves you to bag them up

i always bag and carry my own groceries. we don't have baggers here. occasionally if the cashier is waiting for the receipt to print they may help. i went down south to visit my boyfriend in florida and he gave me funny looks for bagging our groceries. he said "that's what they pay the old people for". so there, everyone stands around while the elderly carry the bags to your car.

i used to work retail and no one ever minded that i was bagging their stuff cause that was my job. the only time anyone ever looked guilty was when i had a brace on my arm....but i still bagged them. it's what they paid me for. haha i remember bagging a couple cases of infant formula for a big guy with the arm brace. those things are about as heavy as several milk gallons so i really nursed it for a laugh.

Yeah, some places here have the self-checkouts...but not all. Unfortunately some places I still have to wait in a big line.

Make it easy on yourself: push the bitch aside and show her how it's done.

;) :rolleyes:

the spotty teen u scans the goods, but that still leaves you to bag them up
"u" are the only one involved in "u"-scan :)

U scan

scan yourself??? whoaa....we don't have that. So basically you have no checkout person, right?

Nope. You just walk up to the scan thing and press start, then scan all the barcodes, and select your method of payment...and you can use credit debit or cash. It's actually pretty fun and empowering...in a way.

Originally posted by SwedishFish
:bugeye: i pack my own gallon of soymilk with my own girly arms thank you
geez man, if she can't lift a gallon of milk, how does she ever make herself a bowl of cereal in the morning? get over yourself and your big manly muscles.

Can you honestly say you would feel no guilt standing there scratching your nutz while a little 100 pound girl struggles with your bags?

On a serious note, I think you can ask every male in this thread if he would feel awkward about the scenerio. whether he helps or not is not relevant to having the feeling. The feeling is a by-product of living in this direct society and that same feeling is important for that same reason. Its a connection to said soceity.

I definately agree Esoteric. It is a product of the society we live in.

Nope. You just walk up to the scan thing and press start, then scan all the barcodes, and select your method of payment...and you can use credit debit or cash. It's actually pretty fun and empowering...in a way.

I'll stick to the good old fashioned method...hey..I'm an old fashioned kinda guy deep down;)

On a serious note, I think you can ask every male in this thread if he would feel awkward about the scenerio. whether he helps or not is not relevant to having the feeling. The feeling is a by-product of living in this direct society and that same feeling is important for that same reason. Its a connection to said soceity

No, that feeling isn't a product of our society. On the contrary, not having any such feelings would be a product of current socciological trends.
I would, and do feel rather un comfortable standin gthere as someone (regardless of gender) packs my stuff. Hence I always help out, it's a habbit...what can I say...I'm a helpful kinda guy...an old fashioned, helpful kinda guy.
Furthermore,if the bagperson happens to be a female, then helpng out is not such a bad thing...chivalry isn't dead you know.

I have no problems helping out. Yes it's their job, but how often do you need help with your own job? It's not like we are all super-human once we enter the office.

If the girl seriously can't lift a gallon of milk by herself, I bet she will either 1)get stronger over time and practice or 2)find another job, after 90% of her customers are helping her do what she's being paid to do.

I'm sure there is a clean-up guy who has more upper-body strength who she could trade positions with.

if she can't lift a gallon of milk she can't have breakfast!!!
are you kidding me? is this even an issue?? i don't have any "nutz" to scratch you dillhole. i'm the little girl packing up your shit. anyone with arms can lift a gallon of milk. is it an armless girl who is pakcing your groceries? cause man that's messed up having an armless girl pack your shit.

Originally posted by SwedishFish
if she can't lift a gallon of milk she can't have breakfast!!!
are you kidding me? is this even an issue?? i don't have any "nutz" to scratch you dillhole. i'm the little girl packing up your shit. anyone with arms can lift a gallon of milk. is it an armless girl who is pakcing your groceries? cause man that's messed up having an armless girl pack your shit.

lol, how do you even know she drinks milk?.

SwedeFish, lets recap your "points"

Feeling awkward when you are a man who watches a much smaller woman do manual labor thats for your benefit makes you an "chauvinist" betch

One cannot look deeper into the reasons for reactionay emotions and the connections between them. Its enough to just have gut reactions.

Unless sympathy is appreciated it is useless

Having antipathy to the concept of society is a must

Everybody who does not share the same antipathy is a conformist

Anybody that has any feelings of compassion for other memembers of society si a "touch feely dillhole"


Do you see why you are complety bonkers yet?


Until you can form even such a simple bond to other members of the society as feeling guilt over a little woman doing manual labor for you(as it contradicts hundreds of years of ingrained societal behavoir instilled in males) your arguments will remain garbage and be attacked at there core levels by me as their are now.
read you paragraph Swede, think of how reactionary it is, instead of even attempting to dwelve into deep societal issues you remain on such fukking shallow things "its her choice to work, it's my choice to be there, you cant have apathy". Esoteric does not even have the time to do this, go fukk off into a community college you brain dead cunt and let a proffesor explain these things to you. You need fukkin help.

Why dont you ask her if she wants a hand if you want to give one? And if you dont want to give one in the first plac ethen why are you so het up about it? Just dont.

Esoteric:
read you paragraph Swede, think of how reactionary it is, instead of even attempting to dwelve into deep societal issues you remain on such fukking shallow things "its her choice to work, it's my choice to be there, you cant have apathy". Esoteric does not even have the time to do this, go fukk off into a community college you brain dead cunt and let a proffesor explain these things to you. You need fukkin help.

Kill yourself, you're an embarassment to the species.

whoa dude, not a single one of those "points" belonged to me. check usernames before replying. let's recap on which of us is bonkers.
my only point was that only people without arms can't carry milk jugs. any freshman girls gym class starts on 25lb weights. grocery bags don't weigh more than 25lbs. it's not challenging to the arm-ed to pack groceries.

I would go over and grab the milk jug and start curling it several times while subtlely trying to get her to focus on my bulging biceps.Then I would say
"Thats right baby,I got another one just like it over here"
*Then give a wink and a flashy smile for added effect*
Then I would get her phone # and proceed to sign autographs for all the customers outside.

What are we talking about again? :bugeye:
Oh yeah ,my bulging biceps.:D

Well, being a female cashier I still have to pack all the groceries, plus the shit that little fuckheads leave in the cart because its too bloody heavy, but that I still have to lift out, and scan and then put back into the cart, thereby breaking my back. And the male cashiers do the same thing as do the female and male "pack boys." It's our job we get paid for it, and it would piss me off if someone took pity on me just cause I'm a girl. I'm jsut as strong as any of the guys working at my store, if not stronger. And a better packer. So if you have a problem with it, pack your own!!

"struggling with a gallon of milk"-please!

Where do you work?
So I can wear my muscle shirt and proceed to act on my aforementioned plot.
*flexes arm*
Oh yeah baby!;)

Originally posted by Nightpoet


"struggling with a gallon of milk"-please!

switch to the metric system please and only life a liter of milk.

When I applied for the prestigious position of bagger a long time ago one of the questions was "Can you lift an object of up to 50 lbs?" Answer yes and you're in. There is absolutely nothing in a grocery store that I can think of that is 50 lbs. Dog food doesn't even come close. They just give that number like they do for the cautionary speed limits, you know, the yellow ones that tell you how fast you should go around a turn. When turning at the suggested 25 mph I feel like a turtle. It's there for people with bad tired, bad suspension, are blind, etc, etc just like the 50 lbs question is for the people that are unsure if they can lift 50 lbs or not. Sorry if this is a little hard to read. I typed kinda fast. Gotta take a piss.

well its not a problem here

all the bags are on the OTHER side of the counter so the check-out chick/guys have an easier time with them

so no i have never felt bad about leting a check out person pack my shopping for me

That person is ALWAYS a girl around here and every other place I've been to. If I saw a guy doing that job I'd laugh my ass off at him and tell him to get his act together.
And I don't give a damn if she struggles with my bags, I can honestly say that doesn't make me uncomfortable at all.
In fact, if she takes too long I like to grab her by the hair and cram her face into a bucket of icecream that I previously opened for that purpose.
Ok thats not true:(
I wish it was.

Just let her do her job, friend.