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Muslim
03-06-06, 08:06 AM
What can I do not to feel horny all the time, apart from masturbating or having sex? :(

EoDEo
03-06-06, 08:16 AM
Sleep long and often. I found having enough energy, critical for any problem. Try listening to your favorite music. 'New Age' is my personal favorite and the one I’d recommend for any situation.

If you see what you’re doing as wrong, that it is wrong- for you. A simple, unpleasant, but afaik- true answer. Do all you can to make it right. I know it can be hard at times, but once you get the hang of it, it will bother you less and less.

I was winning this war when I fell in love. Would it go away completely if I hadn’t? I don’t know. Now that I have, my last biggest problem went away in a puff of smoke as if it never existed. I'm glad it did.

That’s not to say that I don’t have a new and tougher problem to keep me company now.

Communist Hamster
03-06-06, 10:46 AM
Oh, cold showers don't work. They only increase sexual arousal.

spidergoat
03-06-06, 11:39 AM
Castration.

Muslim
03-06-06, 12:04 PM
Castration.

I do want to have sex when I get married.

water
03-06-06, 01:37 PM
What can I do not to feel horny all the time, apart from masturbating or having sex? :(

What are you eating?
Pasta and spicy food tend to get people horny.
If you eat that, give it up for a while and eat something more neutral, see if there are any changes, and report.

spidergoat
03-06-06, 02:06 PM
I do want to have sex when I get married.
Take some estrogen, then.

john smith
03-07-06, 04:01 AM
What can I do not to feel horny all the time, apart from masturbating or having sex? :(

Masturbate and have LOTS of sex! :D

Works for me everytime.

Muslim
03-07-06, 10:06 AM
What are you eating?
Pasta and spicy food tend to get people horny.
If you eat that, give it up for a while and eat something more neutral, see if there are any changes, and report.
#

I love my spicy food, I love chicken! yum!

Its getting really bad now, sometimes am alright and sometimes I feel too horny its hard for me to concentrate on anything. Am falling behind on my work. :(

water
03-07-06, 12:49 PM
Muslim,


Cutting down on the spicy food may seriously help. Olives, onions, chilli, fried meat and vegetables, pizza, red peppers, other spices, pasta, chocolate -- reduce the intake of this.
I know those are the kinds of food you like, but they do tend to arouse sexual lust.

spidergoat
03-07-06, 01:01 PM
Don't be an idiot, and I would never wank I would rather have sex.
Find a goat.

john smith
03-08-06, 04:30 AM
Or a virgin.

Meanwhile,
03-08-06, 04:40 AM
Raw seaweed.

Carcano
03-12-06, 07:46 PM
Find out if you have a hyper active thyroid gland. Too much thyroid hormone in the bloodstream can amplify the sex drive.

Aside from that...ejaculate often - the sex drive will dissappear, as least for several hours.

Interestingly, the ancient Greeks thought it unhealthy for a man to retain his semen through abstainance and restraint. Chinese and Indian traditions on the other hand, believed that the sex force could be subliminated into some form of spiritual energy.

Xerxes
03-12-06, 08:16 PM
Try pranayama and yoga asanas. You'd be surprised man..

invert_nexus
03-12-06, 08:25 PM
Or Xerxes could show you some gay porn.
How the hell did you not get banned for that, fucker?

leopold
03-12-06, 08:42 PM
What can I do not to feel horny all the time, apart from masturbating or having sex? :(
wash your sheets, and often

Xerxes
03-12-06, 08:56 PM
What's wrong with gay porn? It's completely natural, don't repress.

superluminal
03-12-06, 09:06 PM
I do want to have sex when I get married.

Yes, but we don't want you spawning children with your particular genetic message.

Castration.

all4schwa
03-13-06, 01:29 AM
selective serotonin reputake inhibitors. decreases mine enough that my bf can manage.

i love gay porn

Islamsmylife
03-16-06, 09:09 AM
What can I do not to feel horny all the time, apart from masturbating or having sex? :(


Muslim, you should know like I know that Prophet Muhammed gave the best advice and the solution for all problems. He said if we (single men) are unable to get married we should fast, because fasting lowers the sexual desire and energy. Try this, it has worked for me. And remember the Islamic solution is always the best solution so ever other option is secondary.

Constantine
03-16-06, 10:39 AM
Muslim, you should know like I know that Prophet Muhammed gave the best advice and the solution for all problems. He said if we (single men) are unable to get married we should fast, because fasting lowers the sexual desire and energy. Try this, it has worked for me. And remember the Islamic solution is always the best solution so ever other option is secondary.
Under the condition one is a muslim. Which Muslim probably is, regarding his nickname. So that's fine.

Fasting makes you feel feeble. It's like when you're ill and you don't have appetite: so that not eating makes you only feel more ill.

Islamsmylife
03-16-06, 01:38 PM
Well, 1. It doesnt actually make you feel ill (maybe some people but not most.) We as Muslims have to fast for a full month every year even if it's in the summer and all Muslims do this unless their sick or pregnent or some other medical reason, so its not that hard. 2. Its for Allah so one has more consciencness before doing sins like looking at girls in a bad way, listening to music etc. things that normally seem small are big when one is fasting for his Lord. So before you can understand the reason behind the advice the Prophet gave us you first have to understand Islam.

perplexity
03-16-06, 01:47 PM
When I fast I feel good on it.
Fasting enhances awareness; it enlivens the senses.
People feel like shit on a fast when they were already full of shit,
junk food, alcohol and chemicals;
then it is like a bad hangover, cold turkey.

chuck u farley
03-16-06, 01:50 PM
#

I love my spicy food, I love chicken! yum!

Its getting really bad now, sometimes am alright and sometimes I feel too horny its hard for me to concentrate on anything. Am falling behind on my work. :(


Why don't you try a nice bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich?

Communist Hamster
03-16-06, 01:55 PM
Well, 1. It doesnt actually make you feel ill (maybe some people but not most.) We as Muslims have to fast for a full month every year even if it's in the summer and all Muslims do this unless their sick or pregnent or some other medical reason, so its not that hard.
Forgive me for not knowing, but I though Ramadan was a short month?

Islamsmylife
03-16-06, 01:59 PM
No its a month that changes every year. In Islam we have a different calender then Gregorian so every year it goes back by like 11 days so some years its in the summer.

Sock puppet path
03-16-06, 02:51 PM
I used to prepare dinner and breakfast for muslims during ramadan it is not true fasting they ate like horses as long as the sun wasn't up.

Communist Hamster
03-17-06, 01:57 AM
No its a month that changes every year. In Islam we have a different calender then Gregorian so every year it goes back by like 11 days so some years its in the summer.
Ah, I see. Thankyou.

Jaybee from his cast
03-19-06, 06:41 AM
A good friend of mine is a Christian fundamentalist who doesn't have sex out of wedlock, nor does he "spill his seed on the ground", so I'll give you the benefit of his experiences. According to him, after prolonged abstinence of all sexual activity, the libido seems to go into hibernation. This of course requires great discipline, but can be done.

Your diet is a factor, certain foods stimulate sex drive, remove garlic, onions, red meat (a natural source of testosterone).

Do a lot of cardio-vascular exercise; apart from getting/keeping fit, it'll encourage your body to regenerate, not procreate. Don't lift weights - it stimulates testosterone production, which in turn will exacerbate your state. If you think you're horny now, you'll be spinning out of control like a 40 y.o virgin on Viagra after a weights session. I'm a bodybuilder, I've got friends who have literally had to cut their workouts short because their erections bulged in their Speedos, went to the showers, emptied the tank, and returned.

Although I'm helping you fight your urges, I fundamentally disagree with you on this whole thing. God made woman beautiful and gifted you with a powerful lbido for good reason - so you WOULD have sex, not as some kind of torturous endurance test to sort His true adherents from the wannabes. You should be glad your sex drive is as robust as it is - you should be proud of it, not ashamed.

But you're going to continue on your path regardless, so I might as well help with the pain. Now I know why young moslem males are so angry...all that semen, and no release. Heck, after a few years in my 20's without pussy, I'd be flying planes into buildings too...

:)


Jaybee.

Fraggle Rocker
03-19-06, 06:06 PM
Your testes are the glands that secrete the testosterone that gives you a libido (the desire to have sex and the ability to be aroused) and they also store the sperm that makes reproduction possible. But your prostate gland arguably plays a much larger role in sex.

Your prostate secretes semen, and stores it pending ejaculation. Your prostate also houses the nerve that processes the reflex that causes ejaculation. That same nerve processes sexual arousal and is largely responsible for making you feel "horny."

The rate at which your prostate secretes semen varies and is affected by your age and the amount and degree of arousal you experience. But even if you are able to eliminate all sources of arousal from your life, at your age your prostate will still secrete at least a quarter of an ounce (7cc) of semen every day.

That means that at the end of two months, no matter how much you try to control your life, your prostate is struggling to store more than one cup of semen. That's rather a lot for a gland that, if healthy, would rattle around in a standard eight-ounce measuring cup.

It responds to this situation for which it was not designed in three ways.

1. The healthy way. Arousal and production of semen create a feedback environment. When your prostate has produced an excess of semen, it sends signals through your endocrine system that make you feel even "hornier." It becomes imperative to you to experience several ejaculations. Your priorities change. You begin to look at women you used to think were ugly. You consider masturbating no matter what your elders have taught you about it.

2. The spiritual way. You will have "wet dreams," also known clinically as "nocturnal emissions." You have no control over this so your religion probably does not consider it a sin. But nocturnal emissions are governed by many factors both physical and psychological. If you are trying to reduce your libido through diet and meditation, this will probably affect your unconscious as well as your conscious and you may decrease the frequency of wet dreams. Even if you don't they don't really occur often enough to drain the prostate. It will exist in a steady state of overload. Which leads to...

3. The unhealthy way. Your prostate begins to expand. It is only capable of reaching a certain size before the stress begins to take its toll. It becomes inflamed and fills with pus. Eventually, this kind of abuse increases the risk of prostate cancer. I know this is controversial but I've seen the controversy go back and forth. It appears that men who attempt to live celebate lives like Catholic priests (most of them really do try to live up to their vows and are not out there screwing little boys) have a higher incidence of prostate cancer.

What you do about this is up to you. But you are trying to make your body do something it was not designed for. If you believe in an intelligent designer, it's a little mystifying how you could also believe that he wants you to abuse that body by making it secrete pus and risk getting cancer. Dying of prostate cancer or catching it in time and having it surgically removed will prevent you from reproducing, which violates the command to "go forth and multiply." (Yeah, it's kind of stupid for Catholic priests and nuns to violate that command also, but why would anyone want to emulate them?)

You're going to hurt yourself, both physically and psychologically, and if you do that it isn't going to do your spirit very much good either.

I suggest you re-think your life and figure out where you went wrong, because what you're trying to do is most astoundingly and obviously wrong. Your community should be ashamed of itself for raising boys who believe in this outrageous crap.

Mosheh Thezion
03-20-06, 03:11 AM
IF YOU FEEL HORNEY ALL THE TIME.....

you need to get married.

-MT

illuminatingtherapy
03-20-06, 06:32 PM
The issue here could be that you seriously have to reconsider where you put your attention. What you're focusing your energy on. We allready know where your putting your energy, to sex, so that's fine, but what's not that good, is that the amount of attention you give to sex, is, as you have admitted, since you're saying you're falling behind on your work, that it's become an obsession. In the end, it ends up in two (or maybe more) things; it's a habit and it's hard to change, but you've realized it is, and that's a great leap in the right direction, and second; the hormones in your body is taking you by surprise, subconsciously, by the fact that it is attracting your attention towards sex, which is an evidence of the habit. What could be done is to make it a ritual when you get the boner, to be aware of it (consciously) and to direct your attention towards something non-sexual. Make that the habit instead of just jerking off whenever you get the chance. :)

spidergoat
03-20-06, 06:40 PM
You need to get some advice from the resident lovemaster, Jaybeefromhiscast!

Zappa
03-20-06, 06:48 PM
Although I'm helping you fight your urges, I fundamentally disagree with you on this whole thing. God made woman beautiful and gifted you with a powerful lbido for good reason - so you WOULD have sex, not as some kind of torturous endurance test to sort His true adherents from the wannabes. You should be glad your sex drive is as robust as it is - you should be proud of it, not ashamed.

Jaybee.

Interesting viewpoint. You're Christian?


1 Corinthians 6:18-20 & 1 Corinthians 7:1-2


"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

EmptyForceOfChi
03-20-06, 10:55 PM
join the shaolin temple.

peace.

CANGAS
03-20-06, 11:39 PM
Now that I have gotten to be an old man I find that my obsession with sexual pleasure is much less than it once was.

Just be patient. Time will be on your side in your battle against sex desire. Your body will automatically crave far less than in years past. I believe it works for both genders.

Always glad to cheer somebody up.

Muslim
03-22-06, 06:45 AM
A good friend of mine is a Christian fundamentalist who doesn't have sex out of wedlock, nor does he "spill his seed on the ground", so I'll give you the benefit of his experiences. According to him, after prolonged abstinence of all sexual activity, the libido seems to go into hibernation. This of course requires great discipline, but can be done.

Your diet is a factor, certain foods stimulate sex drive, remove garlic, onions, red meat (a natural source of testosterone).

Do a lot of cardio-vascular exercise; apart from getting/keeping fit, it'll encourage your body to regenerate, not procreate. Don't lift weights - it stimulates testosterone production, which in turn will exacerbate your state. If you think you're horny now, you'll be spinning out of control like a 40 y.o virgin on Viagra after a weights session. I'm a bodybuilder, I've got friends who have literally had to cut their workouts short because their erections bulged in their Speedos, went to the showers, emptied the tank, and returned.

Although I'm helping you fight your urges, I fundamentally disagree with you on this whole thing. God made woman beautiful and gifted you with a powerful lbido for good reason - so you WOULD have sex, not as some kind of torturous endurance test to sort His true adherents from the wannabes. You should be glad your sex drive is as robust as it is - you should be proud of it, not ashamed.

But you're going to continue on your path regardless, so I might as well help with the pain. Now I know why young moslem males are so angry...all that semen, and no release. Heck, after a few years in my 20's without pussy, I'd be flying planes into buildings too...

:)


Jaybee.


Thats brilliant. But I don't have much weight I have fast metabolism, I wanted to ripp my body so its look nice. But the thing is muscles burn fat (?) when you are not doing anything, so when I did do some training I was getting muscles and not eating more and I was looking weight.

And feeling overly horny, at one point I was getting turn on my guys which freaked the hell out of my and I had to masturbate over a lesbian porn magazine I thought I turned gay or something, but that wasn't it, I felt much better after that. For about a week, now am feeling horny so horny. And I don't want to do more fasting I'm loosing too much weight.

I just need to get married I think. For Muslims sex is not seen as something disgusting like Christians see it, once you're married you have to satifly your wife, and explore her body, ect, ect. But yeah, when you're not married it seems like you'll go old and still not be married and it get frustrating, especially when your mom doesn't understand, and your whole family are extremely conservative.
But I like you, I think you're so funny!!! ;)

Jaybee from his cast
03-24-06, 08:40 AM
Thats brilliant. But I don't have much weight I have fast metabolism, I wanted to ripp my body so its look nice. But the thing is muscles burn fat (?) when you are not doing anything, so when I did do some training I was getting muscles and not eating more and I was looking weight.

Muscles DO burn fat at rest, aka your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate), but you said your'e quite slim anyway, you'll find that Cardio ALWAYS burns fat better than muscle. Most bodybuilders use a split routine, Mo/We/Fr weights, and Tu/Th cardio. But like I said, you can cut fat AND avoid stoking your libido by sticking purely to cardio.



And feeling overly horny, at one point I was getting turn on my guys which freaked the hell out of my

I've heard of hetero prisoners starting to exhibit gay tendencies after prolonged periods away from women. You MIGHT be Bi, abou 10% of all men are, but they don't all know it.

a
nd I had to masturbate over a lesbian porn magazine I thought I turned gay or something, but that wasn't it, I felt much better after that. For about a week, now am feeling horny so horny.

I'll bet the damn shirt off YOUR back that you enjoyed the lezzie porn and are feeling horny just remembering it. Lipstick lesbian porn is the most arousing form of porn created by man. A man sees it, he JUST gets hard. You have to made of cardboard not find it stirring, whatever your colour, creed or belief. I'm the proud owner of an enormous collection of girl-girl porno, across textual, pictorial and video formats, spanning two decades.


And I don't want to do more fasting I'm loosing too much weight.

Try not to fast as a libidinal surpressant. Apart from being plain unhealthy, the general rule is that one bodily urge only comes back stronger after another, more urgent deficiency has been addressed. If you masturbated when you were hungry, you won't feel like eating during the session, but within a few minutes of blowing your load you'll want to pig out twice as much as before. The reverse is also true. Keep eating, but don't be afraid to masturbate when you MUST.


I just need to get married I think. For Muslims sex is not seen as something disgusting like Christians see it, once you're married you have to satifly your wife, and explore her body, ect, ect.

It's no different for us - only the fundies see intramarital sex as 'filthy', according to their warped view of our faith.


But yeah, when you're not married it seems like you'll go old and still not be married and it get frustrating, especially when your mom doesn't understand, and your whole family are extremely conservative.

Spare a thought for Taliban nymphomaniacs. They live in agony 24-7, never being able to even chat a guy up, let alone take him around a hut and do the wild thang..I wonder if they are promised 72 huge guys hung like horses when they die...???


But I like you, I think you're so funny!!! ;)

I have my moments.

:)

Huwy
03-26-06, 02:34 AM
Do what Mohammed did when he was 53 - marry a 6 year old girl and have sex with her when she turns 9.

See that's your problem. You don't masturbate. So you get all horny.
Catholic priests have the same problem, they get all horny, so they end up touching children.

Please though, If you need to resort to raping someone, make sure its in an islamic state - it will be easier to keep secret there. You probably won't get away with it in a western country, besides, why rape an infidel?

Castration.

Muslim
03-27-06, 06:13 PM
Do what Mohammed did when he was 53 - marry a 6 year old girl and have sex with her when she turns 9.

See that's your problem. You don't masturbate. So you get all horny.
Catholic priests have the same problem, they get all horny, so they end up touching children.

Please though, If you need to resort to raping someone, make sure its in an islamic state - it will be easier to keep secret there. You probably won't get away with it in a western country, besides, why rape an infidel?

Castration.

That claim is very debatable. Chronicles of the time put Aisha's age at 18. When the marriage was consumed.

PHPlatonica
03-27-06, 06:52 PM
Do what Mohammed did when he was 53 - marry a 6 year old girl and have sex with her when she turns 9.

See that's your problem. You don't masturbate. So you get all horny.
Catholic priests have the same problem, they get all horny, so they end up touching children.

Please though, If you need to resort to raping someone, make sure its in an islamic state - it will be easier to keep secret there. You probably won't get away with it in a western country, besides, why rape an infidel?

Castration.
oh jeez huwy! Where is the psychology in a statement like that?
That is just asking for some one to feel horrible. Or angry.

Your grouping religions as if they are "ALL" this way. This isn't so. Some one in your field especially should be more sensitive to that.

BUT! speaking of which, there is this awesome topic about serial killers, and I wonder what your view, opinion and knowledge in it is :) Only if your interested.

But, really. Hurtful statements about another's beliefs should be kept to ones self. Especially for a psychologist as smart as you seem.

Muslim, I do not know what would help at all. But the fact that you are looking for help, shows devotion to your faith. I think that is commendable of you . You are on the right path for you. I think :D

Huwy
03-27-06, 10:22 PM
Aren't I showing that I'm sensitive to people worshipping someone who (apart from killing a lot of people) married and had sex with a child under the age of 10?

Aren't I being sensitive to the problem of child molestation by priests? By the raping of children and women in islamic states?

What, because i'm studying psych I have to be "sensitive" to people's beliefs, so I don't risk insulting them - whilst simultaneously ignoring the human rights abuses carried out in the names of those religions? The lives destroyed by those abuses?

Unbind yourself from your double standards of political correctness and look at the bigger picture, then you'll see how I'm being sensitive.

(don't believe the lie some muslims will invent just to appease the west - that aisha was older than 9).

Actually, the hadiths put aisha at 9.
What chronicles put her at 18?

Muslim
03-28-06, 05:44 AM
Aren't I showing that I'm sensitive to people worshipping someone who (apart from killing a lot of people) married and had sex with a child under the age of 10?

Aren't I being sensitive to the problem of child molestation by priests? By the raping of children and women in islamic states?

What, because i'm studying psych I have to be "sensitive" to people's beliefs, so I don't risk insulting them - whilst simultaneously ignoring the human rights abuses carried out in the names of those religions? The lives destroyed by those abuses?

Unbind yourself from your double standards of political correctness and look at the bigger picture, then you'll see how I'm being sensitive.

(don't believe the lie some muslims will invent just to appease the west - that aisha was older than 9).

Actually, the hadiths put aisha at 9.
What chronicles put her at 18?

Stop lying you motherfucker!

Muslims don't regard the hadeeth to be the word of god, they are based on hearsay, so come directly from the source I.e Mohamed and others are based on hearsay. However Chronicles of the time, had research behind them unlike the hadeeth the hadeeth were just taken as a fact.

Let me remind you this was 1400 years ago, no one kept dates of how old they were. Ashia herself was confused of her age, so how the fuck could you know her age if she didn't know it? the hadeeth were written 100 or so years later after the death of Aisha.

According to Abd ar Rahman ibn Abi Zannad, Aisha was 10 years younger than her sister Asma. (Siyar a´lâm an-nubalâ', adh-Dhahabî, Vol. 2, p. 289, Mu'assat ar-Risâla, Beirut, 1992). That is also confirmed by Ibn Kathir (al-Bidâya wa-n-nihâya, Ibn Kathîr, Bd. 8, S. 371, Dâr al-Fikr al-´Arabî, al-Dschîza, 1933). Virtually all other historical reports also agree in this matter. Ibn Kathir also reports that Asma was present when her son died in 73 AH and she herself died 5 days thereafter (other reports differ slightly, giving between 5 and 100 days between the deaths of the two). At the time of her death she was 100 years old (al-Bidâya wa-n-nihâya, Ibn Kathîr, Vol. 8, p. 372, Dâr al-Fikr al-´Arabî, al-Dschîza, 1933). This is also confirmed by Ibn Hadschar al-´Asqalânî who reports that she died in 73 or 74 AH at the age of 100 years. (Taqrîb at-tahdhîb, Ibn Hadschar al-´Asqalânî, p. 654, Bâb fi-n-nisâ', harfu l-alif, Lucknow). But this means, of course, that Asma was 27 or 28 years old at 1 AH and the 10 years youger Aisha already 17 or 18, so when Muhammad and Aisha started to live together she was already 19 or 20.

Most Muslims generally agree that Aisha had reached the age of puberty at her marriage. This would be unlikely for a 9 year old. In addition, Aisha was already termed 'bikr', meaning virgin adult woman even when the marriage was discussed, i.e. 3 years before the actual marriage. (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Vol. 6, p. 210, Dâr Ihyâ' at-Turâth al-´Arabî, Beirut).

Muslim
03-28-06, 05:50 AM
Aren't I showing that I'm sensitive to people worshipping someone who (apart from killing a lot of people) married and had sex with a child under the age of 10?

Aren't I being sensitive to the problem of child molestation by priests? By the raping of children and women in islamic states?

What, because i'm studying psych I have to be "sensitive" to people's beliefs, so I don't risk insulting them - whilst simultaneously ignoring the human rights abuses carried out in the names of those religions? The lives destroyed by those abuses?

Unbind yourself from your double standards of political correctness and look at the bigger picture, then you'll see how I'm being sensitive.

(don't believe the lie some muslims will invent just to appease the west - that aisha was older than 9).

Actually, the hadiths put aisha at 9.
What chronicles put her at 18?


Seriously dude, I don't know what the fuck is your problem. Look at the west, whats the difference a girl at 16 can have sex with any random dude and her father can't stop her while she lives under his roof?

Try to have some fucking sense, you've really pissed me off and I don't really get mad that easily.

duendy
03-28-06, 05:55 AM
but you ws raving and ravin on to me how you drooled at the thought of war not that longago, so i wouldpresume getting mad would be an enoyable pastime for yo...?

Muslim
03-28-06, 06:25 AM
Aren't I being sensitive to the problem of child molestation by priests? By the raping of children and women in islamic states?

On average fewer women get raped in Islamic states then they do in the west, your argument is all wrong. You’re using a logical fallacy; your arguments conclusion doesn’t follow from the arguments premises. Why not talk about all the women that get raped in the west? Pot calling the kettle black! Even Atheists rape children remember that women, who fondled with a black kid in school? You’re trying to say just because someone follows a particular belief then he is more likely to rape someone. That is as dumb as thinking every gay man is a rapist or wants to have sex with you. Your personality defines who you’re. No religion tells you do any raping or abusing of children.


whilst simultaneously ignoring the human rights abuses carried out in the names of those religions? The lives destroyed by those abuses?

Like I said even if your argument was true 500 Million women would be abused everyday. And there are Human rights abuses in all places, Stalin was an Atheist what? Does that mean all Atheists are human rights abusers? Stop generalizing. I mean it’s funny that a 22 year old kid like me has to tell you this. It should be the other way round. We can see your true colours you’re an intolerant close minded person.


(don't believe the lie some muslims will invent just to appease the west - that aisha was older than 9).

This is what happens when you try to be overly smart; you make an ass out of yourself. But seriously I am letting that slide as I’ve already proved her age is debatable. And leading chroniclers of the time put Aishas age at 18 – 19.


Actually, the hadiths put aisha at 9.

Let me tell you something many Muslims don’t even believe in the hadeeth, they just use them to interpret the words of the Qu’ran and are generally just read as the sayings of the prophet. They are no historical documents commenting on historical facts like the ages of individuals. There were chroniclers for that. The hadeeth came a 100 years after Aishas death, the chronicles are of the time.

Also let me tell you something Mohammed had many enemies at the time, don’t you think they would have used that against him to assassinate his character? Also if you read the biography of Mohammed from natural sources you will realizes he was a very honest and tolerant man. You know, why people attack someone character in an argument? Is when they lose the debate. There are even few letters sent by Mohammed which if you read you can realizes how Mohammed was really. In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (s) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war (http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/charter1.html). And here are Mohammed letters to other Kings, Heraclius, Chosroes II, Negus, ect… (http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/letters.html) Mohammed’s letter to King Chakrawati Farmas (of India) (http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/farmas.html) If you take the time, when you’ll realizes how Mohammed’s character actually was. Rather then reading b.s refer to factual historical documents of Mohammed’s life and his actions.

Muslim
03-28-06, 06:26 AM
but you ws raving and ravin on to me how you drooled at the thought of war not that longago, so i wouldpresume getting mad would be an enoyable pastime for yo...?


I was messing with you.

PHPlatonica
03-28-06, 01:15 PM
you say your a Humanist. But my opinion baby, is that your a SOCIALIST.

You want to keep it all "as is". But you know what, the Muslims do too. So how come WE are over there? and THEY aren't killing us over here? Come on now. And that isn't even fair because it was a side group of Muslim fanatics not ALL Muslims.

And not ALL priests molest little boys. You, OF ALL people, because of your studies my love, should KNOW this. What's that saying I love "All poodles are Dogs, but not ALL dogs are poodles." You KNOW this. Do not Group them together like that. And so WHAT if Mohammad nailed a little girl of Nine years old way back when? It's in the CULTURE, they aren't Doing it now. They aren't promoting it NOW.

Check this out, Did you know how many WHITE PEOPLE had BLACK SLAVES?
Do you know HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS? When it was ACCEPTABLE THEN?
It isn't now, is it. So don't GROUP Muslim in any category like that because he isn't the Taliban (taliban? what ever) ....

Your behavior is EXACTLY what is so despised about Racism. A group of black teen age males, for reasons I feel are obvious but still inexcusable, formed GANGS back in the when and SHOT and killed and "DRIVE BY'd" a lot of people! Should we say "ALL BLACK TEEN AGE BOYS, and YOUNG Boys ARE LIKE THAT?"
Because it's the same fucking thing. You can not PROVE to me that it isn't. YOU and your statement about the Muslims religion is NO better then the Gospel the KKK Preaches.

And your a "HUMANIST".. no.. Your a borderline racist. People like YOU should back the hell out of psychology before your own PERSONAL opinions INFECT the Psyches of those desperate for help.

God.. and you seemed so ... Smart.

Huwy
03-30-06, 03:02 AM
you say your a Humanist. But my opinion baby, is that your a SOCIALIST.

WTF? Dude my being a secular humanist has nothing to do with socialism.



You want to keep it all "as is". But you know what, the Muslims do too. So how come WE are over there? and THEY aren't killing us over here? Come on now. And that isn't even fair because it was a side group of Muslim fanatics not ALL Muslims.

I do NOT want to keep it all as is, and for your information I have always been opposed to the invasion of Iraq, even before it began.
Let me ask you, did you go to the protests? I did.

I am far more afraid of George W Bush and his crazy born again neocons - I mean, what if that guy believes in the rapture - in judgement day? That's just as bad as dying for jihad.



Check this out, Did you know how many WHITE PEOPLE had BLACK SLAVES? Do you know HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS? When it was ACCEPTABLE THEN?

Obviously importing slaves that was a huge atrocity, not to mention a big mistake. Of course that is a major human rights abuse, but black slavery has ended. Honour killings, have not ended. Do you know what an honour killing is?

"""Human Rights Watch defines "honor killings" as follows:

Honor crimes are acts of violence, usually murder, committed by male family members against female family members who are perceived to have brought dishonor upon the family. A woman can be targeted by her family for a variety of reasons including, refusing to enter into an arranged marriage, being the victim of a sexual assault, seeking a divorce—even from an abusive husband—or committing adultery. The mere perception that a woman has acted in a manner to bring "dishonor" to the family is sufficient to trigger an attack. """

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

Go on, if you are so open minded yourself, go and google "honor killings", and you will see what I am complaining about. They are rampant in places like pakistan.


Your behavior is EXACTLY what is so despised about Racism. A group of black teen age males, for reasons I feel are obvious but still inexcusable, formed GANGS back in the when and SHOT and killed and "DRIVE BY'd" a lot of people! Should we say "ALL BLACK TEEN AGE BOYS, and YOUNG Boys ARE LIKE THAT?"

Of course we shouldn't say that, I've never said that. I'm not complaining about all muslims, I have a pen pal who is a muslim, he lives in lebanon, and he'd never hurt a fly.

Besides, I'm entitled to my view that religion is wrong and is counterproduct to society, as much as muslims are entitled to their view that everyone is born a muslim, and that non-muslims are infidels.

Its in the quran/koran buddy. Summarised:

"Disbelievers will be burned with fire." Cow 2:39, 2:90

"Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. "The table spread 5:51

"Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah." 8:59-60

"Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, The Women 4:34

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html

Have I ever said anything racist like this? Hmmm, who is the racist now? Who has the extremist intolerance beliefs now? You go to that website buddy, and read real passages from the quran, and then tell me who is racism, intolerant etc. All I've done is complain about intolerance, the killing and stoning of women etc, and you assume i'm racist.

If you heard all of my criticisms of christianity, you wouldn't say i was being racist just for criticising islam, because i criticise christianity even more - fucks sake i have to deal with more christians in my own society.
- but all you have seen of course, is my criticism of islam, and so you've wrongly assumed i'm racist.

Yeah I'm a secular humanist - know what that means?
I believe in evolution and I think make believe gods are silly. Violence in the name of imaginary gods is even worse. That includes george bush and iraq.

Huwy
03-30-06, 03:15 AM
Pfft, I complain about human rights abuses in the name of America's desire to:
1.) Get revenge on muslims for september 11, (none of the supposed hijackers were iraqi, some of the 19 are still alive!)
2.) Steal Iraq's Oil.
3.) Carry out a christian crusade.

I question the official story of 9/11, I claim the vietnam war was a horrible wrongful war, I call george bush a retarded christian, and thats a complement to retarded people.
And I support movies like "fahrenheit 9/11" and "loose change". (Seen them both? You should.)

I complain about the American deployment of plastic cluster bombs (landmines) in afghanistan. Do you even know anything about that PHP? They explode when people touch them but the x-ray machines don't pick up the pieces in side them because they are fucking plastic not metal!!

I complain about the American use of DEPLETED URANIUM TWICE in Iraq, and the birth defects they've caused. Do you you know about the use of DU, PHP??

I know for a fact that the WMD LIE was a deliberate lie, not just a mistake. (see Fahrenheit 9/11)

hmm. seems i'm not so ignorant after all.

And what do people think/say? "oh he's one of those young left wing anti-war guys" - and depending on whether or not they are christian idiots they go "ok cool".


The topics I've mentioned in these last 2 posts I have researched for hours and hours EACH. I suggest you do to, if you value your own opinion.

BUT! Dare I criticise the human rights abuses carried out in islamic countries, carried out in the name of islam, and what am I? A "racist".
Go figure.

thedevilsreject
03-30-06, 05:37 AM
muslim likes old men on viagra thats why he is horny

DiamondHearts
03-31-06, 10:26 PM
Go on, if you are so open minded yourself, go and google "honor killings", and you will see what I am complaining about. They are rampant in places like pakistan.


Some tribal people do this, however when the government and people find out there is usually prosecution. Women are not killed for refusing to marry, or being raped. Usually it is because of adultery or fornication, also the same thing ahappens in other countries like America. How many husbands kill their wives which they suspect to be guilty of adultery.

Do not blame the religion, because the religion isn't to blame. Blame the poor illiterate people in a few isolated tribal areas, not even a whole country.



Of course we shouldn't say that, I've never said that. I'm not complaining about all muslims, I have a pen pal who is a muslim, he lives in lebanon, and he'd never hurt a fly.

Besides, I'm entitled to my view that religion is wrong and is counterproduct to society, as much as muslims are entitled to their view that everyone is born a muslim, and that non-muslims are infidels.


You dishonor a 'friend' in which you show such horrible views to his culture and religion. What kind of one-sided friendship do you have?

We don't believe in the concept of infidel, it is a western word, we call them disbelievers (kaffir), nothing more nothing less.



Its in the quran/koran buddy. Summarised:

"Disbelievers will be burned with fire." Cow 2:39, 2:90


Yes, and Allah swt will forgive who He wills. In the hadith it says, a prostitute was forgiven and admitted into paradise because she gave water to a thirsty dog. Those who know of Islam and reject it knowing of it fully will be punished, those who don't have complete knowledge of Islam and do not defame Muslims will be subject to same punishment, and may be forgiven by Allah swt 's will



"Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. "The table spread 5:51


the word is do not take them as awliya, protectors, those who have the right to order your affairs



"Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah." 8:59-60


In war, those who fight Muslims. Allah swt also says He does that 'those who are good among the jews christians pagans will get their reward from Allah.'



"Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, The Women 4:34

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html


you did quote the whole verse, it says men have more power in the society over the women are are caretakers of women. this is the traditional role of women in society, but islam allows women to own property, divorce, engage in business, work, even fight in war.

a bible website is not the best place to get information on islam



Have I ever said anything racist like this? Hmmm, who is the racist now? Who has the extremist intolerance beliefs now? You go to that website buddy, and read real passages from the quran, and then tell me who is racism, intolerant etc. All I've done is complain about intolerance, the killing and stoning of women etc, and you assume i'm racist.


If you go to a christian website meant to evangelize people and hate islam. instead go to answering-christianity.org or islamicity.com.



If you heard all of my criticisms of christianity, you wouldn't say i was being racist just for criticising islam, because i criticise christianity even more - fucks sake i have to deal with more christians in my own society.
- but all you have seen of course, is my criticism of islam, and so you've wrongly assumed i'm racist.


Most people who are against Muslims today are fuelled by racism. Some honest people argue with Islam on an intellectual level and you can tell when they do. You were the one who started criticizing Islam, just because the poster of this thread was a muslim. This type of argument is being discussed in the religion thread.

Why do people always believe they have to defame Muslims and put them on defense even when they simply try to talk about their personal lives?

I think you owe Muslim an apology.

Peace.

DiamondHearts
03-31-06, 10:28 PM
typo

Those who know of Islam and reject it knowing of it fully will be punished, those who don't have complete knowledge of Islam and do not defame Muslims will not be subject to same punishment, and may be forgiven by Allah swt 's will

PHPlatonica
03-31-06, 11:30 PM
Huwy. ... Fuck huwy.

I did research it. I read what you were saying to an innocent question by Muslim, in HIS thread no less. Just here, this closed in window. And you were so mean! I forget that psychologists are "human" too... the thing is, did it ever occur to you that you hurt his feelings? He is just one. Slamming on him for his belief was not right. You should have just avoided the thread. you should have shook it off. Instead you went crazy with your anger about Muslims! he asked a very personal question... I thought you could step away from your ideologies to at least SEE that. Instead, instead you were Cruel. and you insulted the WHOLE.... This wasn't a thread that said "I am Muslim, and I wish you were all Dead because you don't believe my way"... He was looking for HELP. And you YOU over looked HIM as a PERSON. Can't you SEE that you did that? THAT is what was so PATHETIC and despicable. Were you afraid he would Preach his ways in this thread?

What I am saying.. is what you did was as similar as running into his house and yelling at him for his religion. He wasn't harming any one here, in this thread. your being a Psychologist I am appalled that you would look at your disgust with a religion, and hound ONE soul, and not the whole. THAT, huwy, is what I am saying. What you did by doing THAT, was NO better then what a racist does to a single person in their own home because of their race. PERIOD.

Maybe he should have just asked other Muslims about this. But can't you SEE he is just one person? Just one child/kid.. young man trying to live in a world with all this hatred. And DOING the best he knows how to. And you belittled him.. you belittled him with what you said about his faith. All you did in this, was reassure him that WE ARE PIGS.
You couldn't put your sign down long enough to feel for another person. That is NOT humanist. TIME and PLACE for things. Nothing more.

Possumking
04-04-06, 05:59 PM
I love how this thread as completely changed course. Does anyone remember that it started off as a way to end Muslim's horniness? As an answer, I'd just wank it (masturbate). It's the only way. When you think about it, it's not really sinful either. But hey, who am I to rule your beliefs?

nameless
04-15-06, 03:55 PM
"A god ignored is a demon born! That which is denied gains in power and seeks strange and unexpected forms of manifestation.
Deny sex and bizarre forms of it's expression will torment you!
Deny love, and absurd sentimentalities will disable you.
Deny honest fear and desire only to create senseless neuroticism and avarice.
Deny laughter and the world laughs at you.
Deny magic only to become a confused robot, inexplicable even unto yourself!" - Liber Kaos, The Psychonomicon, Peter Carroll

Athelwulf
05-04-06, 11:40 PM
I only skimmed, but I haven't read anyone suggest masturbation. It seriously is the best thing you can do if you can't fuck a girl/guy, Muslim. That is, except for castration.

Either jack it off or cut it off.

madanthonywayne
05-05-06, 12:24 AM
I only skimmed, but I haven't read anyone suggest masturbation. It seriously is the best thing you can do if you can't fuck a girl/guy, Muslim. That is, except for castration.

Either jack it off or cut it off.
That's because in the original post he specifically excluded sex and masterbation as remedies for hornyness. Still, I agree with your solution.

Athelwulf
05-05-06, 12:32 AM
That's because in the original post he specifically excluded sex and masterbation as remedies for hornyness.
Oh yeah huh. I forgot about that by the time I responded. :p

goofyfish
05-05-06, 04:01 AM
Yep... Waaaay off course, and run aground.