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Lykan
06-01-02, 02:44 PM
Here's the full poll question, since the space available wasn't big enough for it:

In general, which of these sexual positions is usually your favorite to engage in or fantasize about?

Hey, after all, we men are sexually single-minded, right? Just perpetuating the stereotype... ;) I tried to make the answers in such a way so that gay / lesbian / bi people can answer too.

Azrael
06-01-02, 04:53 PM
You should of put another choice in the list, something like "I enjoy all positions of sex" or something like that. Thats what I would choose, I enjoy it all.

orthogonal
06-01-02, 07:07 PM
Lykan,

We need to talk son.

I know what you're going through, but the earth's women aren't going to board a spaceship and fly away any time soon. So you can pace yourself. Try to find another hobby for a while, eh?

"Temperance is that moderation which allows us to be masters of our pleasure instead of becoming its slave." Andre Comte-Sponville

I'm glad we had this talk. And hey, remember you can always come to me with your troubles.

Uncle Michael

TruthSeeker
06-01-02, 07:16 PM
Oh no... again! :mad:

I'm between answers 2, 4,5 and 6... :(
Why don't you put multiple answers Lykan?:o:D

Or at least like Azrael said... :D:D:D

Lykan
06-01-02, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by orthogonal
Lykan,

We need to talk son.

I know what you're going through, but the earth's women aren't going to board a spaceship and fly away any time soon. So you can pace yourself. Try to find another hobby for a while, eh?

Uncle Michael

Thanks, Uncle...

Umm... Uncle? :rolleyes: I just did something naughty. :D But it felt so good that i just couldn't help myself. Would you like to hear all about it?


originally posted by Truthseeker
Why don't you put multiple answers Lykan?
Or at least like Azrael said..


You've convinced me. I've seen the error of my ways, hallelujah. :p Drumroll, please!

orthogonal
06-01-02, 08:14 PM
I just did something naughty...Would you like to hear all about it?
Give it a rest Lykan.

Michael

Lykan
06-01-02, 08:25 PM
LOL

Northwind
06-01-02, 11:49 PM
Is that all the positions you know? Amateurs....

Tyler
06-02-02, 12:54 AM
Hey Nelson......

Interesting that a virgin has a 'favourite position'.

wet1
06-02-02, 01:21 AM
Haha, haha.

I see by all the threads involving women, sex, and the like that the younger generation has it's hormones flowing at full steam.

Heaven help us...

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 02:25 AM
Tyler,

Interesting that a virgin has a 'favourite position'.
You got me little bastard... :D:D:D

Now... seriously... :D
Let's not talk about my current sexual "state" here ok...
It's not something that we like to be public... :D:D

Otherwise I start to talk about you too, you moron...:p:o:D:D

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 02:28 AM
Now, seriously...
Someday I might try some of those positions...
This year, hopefully... :D:D:D:D

Tyler
06-02-02, 02:29 AM
"Now... seriously...
Let's not talk about my current sexual "state" here ok...
It's not something that we like to be public..."

Meh, whatever.


"Otherwise I start to talk about you too, you moron..."

Go right ahead.

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 02:49 AM
Go right ahead.

No... respect above all...

Xev
06-02-02, 03:08 AM
Er, Nelson, I do sincerely hope and pray that you know nothing of Tyler's sexual habits.

*Xev hisses*

You're not his type at all, and he's mine either way!

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 03:10 AM
I know nothing about him... or almost... a little bit of his character and that's all...

Xev
06-02-02, 03:16 AM
Then, ah, you can't really discuss his sexual habits, right? Or, in your words

"Talk about you, you moron"

And please Nelson, you're 18, do find a nice girl soon.

*Exeunt Xev, the hairs on the back of her neck raised*

Asguard
06-02-02, 05:01 AM
ok why do girls like giving head but think recving it is icky?

Don't know if anyone will actully be able to answer this but i ask anyway

Tyler
06-02-02, 12:10 PM
Woh.......

What girls do you know asgaurd? Most of my female friends quite enjoy receiving it.

And the reason I think girls 'enjoy' giving head is the psychological aspect. They like a guy, they enjoy making him happy and know that giving him head makes him happy. It's a rewarding action. Same way making a girl you like happy is enjoyable to men (sexual or not sexual).


And Xev......thank you! And an excellent exeunt.

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 12:18 PM
Xev... I was just teasing him... :D

Btw... what is "giving head"...:confused::D

Tyler
06-02-02, 12:28 PM
I do hope that's a joke.
'Giving head' is giving fellatio.

For a girl, 'giving head' means sucking a dick.
For a guy, 'giving head' means, well licking, kissing and such a woman's vagina and area.


Pardon my bluntness.

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 12:56 PM
I speak another language kid...

Ewwww...
...:D:D:D:D

...:o

Pardon my bluntness.
That's ok...:D:D:D

Tyler
06-02-02, 01:06 PM
ew???

Xev
06-02-02, 01:39 PM
Not to be pedantic (I just got the "Xev, you should be a lawyer!" again) but;

Tyler, you forgot nibbling.

And the reason I think girls 'enjoy' giving head is the psychological aspect. They like a guy, they enjoy making him happy and know that giving him head makes him happy. It's a rewarding action. Same way making a girl you like happy is enjoyable to men (sexual or not sexual).

Bingo. Like I told you, Asguard, sympathetic or empathetic pleasure.

I'm not even going into "ewww".

Lykan
06-02-02, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Asguard
ok why do girls like giving head but think recving it is icky?

Don't know if anyone will actully be able to answer this but i ask anyway

*Warning* While this post is very educational, especially for considerate men who wish to become better lovers, some people would consider it very explicit, and if you're someone who doesn't dig honestly-expressed sexuality, i would suggest you skip it.


I've known some girls who really enjoyed receiving oral sex -- most of them did -- and then a few others who seemed kinda iffy about it, like, "You can do it if you want to, but i'd rather the intercourse begin."

With some, i think it's uncomfortable self-consciousness. With others, it's because they aren't as clitorally stimulated as other women are, and so it doesn't feel quite as "WOWY WOW WOW!!!" to them. :D They're more stimulated by their G-spot which is inside, and thus, they prefer intercourse.

An easy solution if you want to give it to your bebe and she hasn't much cared for it in the past: Do it after she's just taken a shower / bath, in case uncomfortable self-consciousness has been the problem... and then while you're licking her clit, penetrate her vagina with one and then two of your fingers, and go back and forth with them. See if she doesn't like receiving oral pleasure more than she has before. ;) Make sure you do it long enough so that you give her a chance to orgasm though, else she'll get an expression on her face like :mad: because all of the built-up pressure inside hasn't been released through orgasm. And when you can tell that she's getting close to orgasm, go in and out with your fingers as quickly as you can, and lick as vigorously as you can.

Another tip is that you moan with pleasure while you're giving it to her, to let her know that you are enjoying it. It's always nice (!!!) when a girl moans with pleasure while giving oral pleasure to you, right? :D Well, do the same for her.

And if you REALLY want to make your girl's day, i suggest going out and buying a vibrator that you use to penetrate her with while you're licking her clit. And then after she's orgasmed, you can have intercourse with her until you orgasm too, and she might orgasm a second time and maybe third time in the process, and then she'll get a :o from exhaustion, and then a huge :)

(after she's orgasmed, don't instantly put your penis in though. give her a chance to catch her breath, then kiss her for a little bit to get her warmed up again, and then when things feel right, go for it -- as long as she's receptive to it)

It's not like you have to have intercourse with her afterwards though. Most girls i knew were happy to let me give her oral pleasure first, and then she would give it to me. And sometimes she would give me oral pleasure afterwards and then before i orgasmed i would have her stop and then would have intercourse with her -- she'd usually be warmed back up after giving me oral pleasure.

If you can't bring yourself to go into a store and buy a vibrator guys, you can mail-order it, or ask your girlfriend or a female friend of yours to get it for you.

But i would suggest doing the vibrator thing after you've already done the finger thing a few times during previous intimate encounters with her.

And when you're going to use the vibrator on her, kinda tease her with it at first. Just lick her clit for a minute or so while you slide the vibrator around on her breasts / nipples, and then around on the insides of her legs. Let her anticipate it before you actually put it in. ;)

Bowser
06-02-02, 06:21 PM
Interesting thread. I've always been partial to the dominant dog position; but it's all good, really, providing that it's practiced with the opposite gender...of course.

Tyler
06-02-02, 06:23 PM
Interesting advise there Lykan! I'll keep that in mind.

*note, the rest of this thread is, as well, somewhat explicit

As my choices I put woman on top and giving oral sex. I'm not really sure why it is, but I put these two because I enjoy most of all the idea of the woman being pleased. That makes me more turned on than anything. Giving oral sex is, personally, enjoyable because the actual act is fun and (mainly) I get really turned on by the woman being excited. One of the greatest was a girlfriend I had for a short while who would literally scream when she climaxed. That just made me feel good. The woman on top just seems mroe like the girl is involved than missionary does. Seems she's more into it.

TruthSeeker
06-02-02, 06:44 PM
The "ewww" was a joke...:D
Of course, Duuuhh...!

This thread is starting to be really... interesting...:D:D

Lykan
06-02-02, 07:37 PM
Personally i usually don't care for giving oral pleasure when the woman is already really wet down below, which usually happens if we've been kissing and such for a while. So, if that's the case i'll usually ask her if she would mind wiping off with a towel first, "because i like being the one who makes you wet while giving you oral sex." Most women i think don't mind as long as they understand why. (How many women i wonder would want to suck a guy's dick if it already had sperm all over it to begin with? Not as many, i wouldn't think) So, it helps to keep a towel handy. :D If we're very much in the throes of passion at the time though it doesn't bother me.

And then in the middle of my giving her oral pleasure, after i get the basic motions of what i'm doing down, i let half of my mental attention focus on her and the pleasure she's feeling. (this helps if the woman is a more vocal / passionate person when feeling sexual pleasure) The joy of it for me is in sharing her pleasure with her through empathy. It's like an orgasm of the heart.

Lykan
06-02-02, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Xev


That's rude! That's like not swallowing - major faux pas.


It's not a major faux pas in my book if the woman doesn't want to swallow. But i suppose i didn't say that i only asked that of women when we'd been in a relationship for a little while. All of my relationships with women were casual and comfortable enough to where you could be straightforwardly blunt in ways like that and it not be taken in an insulting way. Open communication is such a key ingredient to any successful relationship, as long as it's done as considerately as possible.

You see, when i've given oral sex to a woman when she's already very wet, it's caused me to really gag at first. But if she's not already wet or wipes off with a towel first (or i wipe her off for that matter), that makes all the difference. And if a woman wanted me to wipe off my willy beforehand in order to help her avoid gagging, that would be nooooooo problemo! ;)

Would YOU honestly want to give oral sex to a guy as much if he already had sperm all over his penis to begin with?

Lykan
06-02-02, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Xev


Lykan:

Umm, I find that hard to swallow.* How can she? Not to put too fine a point on it, but; one's mouth is rather, occupied.

*Well SOMBODY had to use that pun.

And to respond to this part, try sticking 3 or 4 fingers straight into your mouth and seeing if you can't still moan. If you can't, all i know to say is that i've known plenty of women who can. ;)

Tyler
06-02-02, 08:17 PM
"Bah-humbug!"

What's wrong?


"Umm, I find that hard to swallow.* How can she? Not to put too fine a point on it, but; one's mouth is rather, occupied"

It's really easy. You can make sounds when your mouth is closed and you're eatin, can you not? Like Lykan said, try the finger thing. You can still moan.


Oh, and nice pun!

Xev
06-02-02, 08:27 PM
It's not a major faux pas in my book if the woman doesn't want to swallow. But i suppose i didn't say that i only asked that of women when we'd been in a relationship for a little while. All of my relationships with women were casual and comfortable enough to where you could be straightforwardly blunt in ways like that and it not be taken in an insulting way. Open communication is such a key ingredient to any successful relationship, as long as it's done as considerately as possible.

Odd, I never considered otherwise. To each his own, ja!

And to respond to this part, try sticking 3 or 4 fingers straight into your mouth and seeing if you can't still moan. If you can't, all i know to say is that i've known plenty of women who can.

Goddamn, you're right. Thanks Lykan. :)

(Edit to add: Asguard says that that might increase the liklihood of biting - your thoughts?)

"Bah-humbug!"

What's wrong?

You're wrong.

(It is a "Nelson Rebuttel!™ - "I'm right and you're unenlightened!")

Lykan
06-02-02, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Xev
(Edit to add: Asguard says that that might increase the liklihood of biting - your thoughts?)


Well there's one quick way to find out. :D Tell Asguard to let us know what he discovers...

:-o=======8


I don't think so though. Never had a girl accidentally bite while giving me oral pleasure down below. But just in case, you'd better tell him that if he sticks 3 or 4 fingers straight into his mouth and moans, and he bites down on them, that he'd better not moan when he does it with someone else. :p

Lykan
06-02-02, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Xev

That's rude! That's like not swallowing - major faux pas.

Odd, I never considered otherwise. To each his own, ja!


*Explicit* *Explicit* *Explicit*

I think that given the choice, most guys would prefer ejaculating in the other person's mouth. Much of it i think is a biological desire to orgasm inside a woman, to try and ensure impregnation and thus ensure species survival. (even though it's being done in her mouth instead of her vagina, there's still a certain deep sation i've experienced in doing it someplace hot and wet inside the woman's body) But i also think that most guys would be happy enough being sucked to begin with that they wouldn't really care one way or the other as to how the orgasm process was handled -- swallowed or jacked off once the orgasm has begun.

And as far as i'm concerned, any guy who actually expects you to swallow his load of sperm isn't worth your time to begin with.

Bowser
06-03-02, 07:10 AM
<b><i>"Much of it i think is a biological desire to orgasm inside a woman, to try and ensure impregnation and thus ensure species survival."</i></b>

Or maybe we are just nasty dogs. Personally, I couldn't do that to my lover. It's too gross.

Joeman
06-03-02, 10:27 AM
Oh man. I think I just prefer intimacy, which is what gives women orgasm. Call me old fashion :rolleyes:

Asguard
06-03-02, 10:42 AM
well luckly for everyone i am a strait GUY, so basicly notthing bigger than a tongue goses in my mouth:p

i know a guy who acidantly made his girl laugh while she was "ocupided", BIG mestake, HUGE mestake, NEVER MAKE GIRL LAUGH :( (hey there is no pain smily)

i have to say that any guy who EXPECTS a girl to swollow or even to cum in her mouth is rather unfair, That said it IS enjoyable if the girl choses to (VERY enjoyable).

i have another question, is there a reason a it would feel scraty when your are in there? (a couple of times it has iratated almost to the point of pain and has been rather unenjoyable, but i would NEVER tell her that)

is there a reason for that?

LIGHTBEING
06-03-02, 12:01 PM
This place seems more and more like a Porn Board everyday. I think I'm finally beginning to like it. :D

Avatar
06-03-02, 12:03 PM
This place seems more and more like a Porn Board everyday. I think I'm finally beginning to like it say all your thanx to Lykan for this.

you all are little pervers bastards:D:p :cool:

TruthSeeker
06-03-02, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Joeman:
Oh man. I think I just prefer intimacy, which is what gives women orgasm. Call me old fashion

I say the same thing...

Adam
06-03-02, 03:13 PM
Nelson, did I hear right that you are a virgin? And you know what gives a women an orgasm?

Tyler
06-03-02, 03:52 PM
"i have another question, is there a reason a it would feel scraty when your are in there? (a couple of times it has iratated almost to the point of pain and has been rather unenjoyable, but i would NEVER tell her that)

is there a reason for that?"

Well.....certain STDs can cause that kind of sensation. You mean in her mouth, right? Hate to ask, but braces? That's a minus. I'm doubting that's it so it's probably just a dry mouth.



"I say the same thing..."

I prefer eating monkey brain to cow testicle. Of course, I've never had either. So my opinion is invalid. Right?

Moron.

Avatar
06-03-02, 03:55 PM
where's the credit to your sig Tyler?
I think tht it should be Socrat:)

Tyler
06-03-02, 04:49 PM
That's actually a line of my own!

Xev
06-03-02, 04:57 PM
As for signatures:

Oh man. I think I just prefer intimacy, which is what gives women orgasm. Call me old fashioned
I say the same thing...

Think you've got a new Nelson quote right there, Ty. Nelson the virgin knows how to bring a woman to orgasm.

This is worse than calling Descartes "crap" having never read him. This is worse than claiming to be an expert on romantic love. This is worse than claiming to have read Plato 'cuz he's read a few excerpts. This is - utterly ridiculous.

Avatar
06-03-02, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Tyler
That's actually a line of my own!
then I congraduate you, but I'm also 101% sure that the exact words have also been said by someone else. One filosopher. I'm sure of it. swear to the great Cthulhu I have read these words in some other work.
Glad you have the same ideas as the author had:)

about Nelson, he apparently thinks that by watching a few porn movies, he has learned everything there is to be learnt.

Cheers ya all:)

Tyler
06-03-02, 05:09 PM
"Think you've got a new Nelson quote right there, Ty. Nelson the virgin knows how to bring a woman to orgasm."

Nelson the man who's never touched a woman down there.

Intersting shit, that's for sure.


"then I congraduate you, but I'm also 101% sure that the exact words have also been said by someone else. One filosopher. I'm sure of it. swear to the great Cthulhu I have read these words in some other work.
Glad you have the same ideas as the author had"

Really? Hmmmmm. That's an interesting thing. I was writing an essay for English class and I wrote that one. It was an idea I'd been thinking about for quite some time. If it's real I'm pretty sure I haven't read it. I generally have a really good memory for philosophy and quotes.



"about Nelson, he apparently thinks that by watching a few porn movies, he has learned everything there is to be learnt."

Wait wait wait......

Are you insinuating that pornography ISN'T like real sex?

Avatar
06-03-02, 05:14 PM
If it's real I'm pretty sure I haven't read it. I generally have a really good memory for philosophy and quotes. Maybe it wasn't a filosophical book. I tried to remember where had I read it, but couldn't. Maybe later it would skip back in my mind (hate when this happens. I know tht the answer is smwhere there in my brain/memory, but I can not write the command to call it forth). Are you insinuating that pornography ISN'T like real sex? YES:D

Xev
06-03-02, 05:20 PM
about Nelson, he apparently thinks that by watching a few porn movies, he has learned everything there is to be learnt.

Cthulhu help us.

Wait wait wait......

Are you insinuating that pornography ISN'T like real sex?

Tyler, swear to me right here and now that you will never take a job delivering pizzas or plumbing.

YES

I believe that Avatar meant somthing along the lines of

"YES YES YES YES YES ooooooohhhhh yeesssssssssss"

Bowser
06-03-02, 05:27 PM
Anyway...back to oral sex. Now, I know it's not beyond a woman to release a gusher while her lover is working the kippered snack. And it's not that bad, providing she is not standing or kneeling above you. With that in mind, how many of you fellas would swallow?

Lykan
06-03-02, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Originally posted by Joeman:
Oh man. I think I just prefer intimacy, which is what gives women orgasm. Call me old fashioned

I say the same thing...

Maybe what you were meaning to agree with was just "I prefer intimacy" instead of the entire quote? :D

Tyler
06-03-02, 05:40 PM
"Tyler, swear to me right here and now that you will never take a job delivering pizzas or plumbing."

What's that Mrs. Johnson? You say you have another problem? Well I can fix anything with a pipe? Not that kind of pipe? Whatever do you mean...........



"Anyway...back to oral sex. Now, I know it's not beyond a woman to release a gusher while her lover is working the kippered snack. And it's not that bad, providing she is not standing or kneeling above you. With that in mind, how many of you fellas would swallow?"

Right here. I did, out of curiosity and the fact that I didnt know how much she'd like having all that stuff on her legs/couch.

Lykan
06-03-02, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Bowser
With that in mind, how many of you fellas would swallow?

During more passionate encounters, yes. If it's just a more casual encounter, probably not.

Bowser
06-03-02, 05:48 PM
Tyler,

You kept her legs dry and saved her couch (not to mention the orgasm). What a champ!

Bowser
06-03-02, 05:54 PM
Hmm, not me. That's a bit too much for my stomach. She can pull on my ears and wet my cheeks, but I will never swallow.

TruthSeeker
06-03-02, 08:20 PM
Avatar,

about Nelson, he apparently thinks that by watching a few porn movies, he has learned everything there is to be learnt.

I never watch pornography...


Lykan,

Maybe what you were meaning to agree with was just "I prefer intimacy" instead of the entire quote?

You got it...

Edit: But actually... intimacy is what really gives pleasure... It's not the oral sex, or whatever... It's the Love (if people actually feel this...) and the sensations of becoming One... it's the harmony between two people...

Agent@5
06-03-02, 08:26 PM
:bugeye:

Tyler
06-03-02, 08:38 PM
"I never watch pornography..."

Why not?


"You got it..."

I have never eaten monkey brains or cow testicles. I prefer monkey brains to cow testicles. Do you realize how stupid I sound having tried neither?



Bowser: All in a day's work!!!!

Xev
06-03-02, 08:44 PM
I have never eaten monkey brains or cow testicles. I prefer monkey brains to cow testicles. Do you realize how stupid I sound having tried neither?

Mmmmm, mousaka is gooooooooood with Rocky Mountain Oysters.....

(Stop trying to gross people out, Xev!)

Cow brains....yummmm......with some caper berries.....

(I MEAN IT! STOP THAT!)

You got it...

You prefer intimacy? How in the bloody hell would you know? And how can you agree with Joeman (who, incidentally, is wrong) on what drives orgasm?

Nelson dear, you've dug yourself into a pit with this one. No sense digging deeper.

Edit to add:

Tyler:

Why not?

Don't encourage him.

Tiffany Minx flicks are fuuuuuuuuuun (Alright, now you're just taunting Nelson - STOP THAT!)

TruthSeeker
06-03-02, 09:01 PM
Tyler,

Why not?

Because I don't like...
I'm too romantic and kind...
I don't like this kind of thing...

I have never eaten monkey brains or cow testicles. I prefer monkey brains to cow testicles. Do you realize how stupid I sound having tried neither?

Have you read what I said...???:confused: :bugeye:


Xev,

You prefer intimacy? How in the bloody hell would you know? And how can you agree with Joeman (who, incidentally, is wrong) on what drives orgasm?

I had a girlfriend. I prefer intimacy because... (actually, that's the best part... :bugeye: )... well... I can explain why... it's just the way I feel. And Joeman is not wrong... if you are with someone without intimacy than, it's no interesting...

Tyler
06-03-02, 09:11 PM
"Because I don't like...
I'm too romantic and kind...
I don't like this kind of thing..."

It's a personal choice.


"Have you read what I said...???"

Do you have half a brain? There is no fucking way in hell you know what you prefer when you have had neither moron.



"I had a girlfriend. I prefer intimacy because... (actually, that's the best part... )... well... I can explain why... it's just the way I feel. And Joeman is not wrong... if you are with someone without intimacy than, it's no interesting..."

You had a girl for THREE DAYS NELSON!!!!!!!

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SMALL LITTLE MIND!!!!!!

THAT IS NOT A RELATIONSHIP!!!!!

AND ANYTHING YOU DID WAS NOT 'INTIMATE' OR SHE WOULDN"T HAVE DROPPED YOU AFTER THREE FUCKING DAYS!!!!!!


and you cant fucking bring a woman to orgasm through holding her.

Xev
06-03-02, 09:18 PM
Because I don't like...
I'm too romantic and kind...
I don't like this kind of thing...

Since when was porn un-romantic and mean?

Tiiiiifffaaaaaaaanyyyyy Miiiiiinxxxxx

I had a girlfriend.

Thank Cthulhu.

And Joeman is not wrong... if you are with someone without intimacy than, it's no interesting...

Umm, yes he is.

Nelson, Joeman is a man. He doesn't understand women and he does not understand what triggers orgasm. (No offense Joe, but it applies to all men)

Intimacy is NOT a requirement.

Don't you DARE correct me on this, Nelson. You're a virgin, and you're male, thus you cannot POSSIBLY understand.

Tyler:

and you cant fucking bring a woman to orgasm through holding her.

THANK YOU! Nelson, shut the fuck up and LISTEN to a man with more experience.

ndrs
06-03-02, 10:03 PM
Poor Nelson.. I was reading these two evil rationalists attack you..
since when is porn romantic??? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Intimacy is a requirement for SOME people (only people with feelings). Just because he is a virgin, doesn't mean he doesn't know what he wants. I had it thought out before I was with a girl, and my beliefs are the same after..
XeV you wouldn't know it, since
XeV: I'll put it this way - I am cold. I have a very hard time understanding and dealing with people who are sensitive and easily hurt.
Tyler: how many relationships have you had so far? how old are you (if you mind me asking - I believe it IS relevant)?
and you cant fucking bring a woman to orgasm through holding her.
Certainly not if she is a bitch and was fucked 1000 times, you can't.

Tyler
06-03-02, 10:23 PM
"Poor Nelson.. I was reading these two evil rationalists attack you..
since when is porn romantic???"

Learn about sarcasm, then come back. We never said porn was romantic seriously.



"Intimacy is a requirement for SOME people (only people with feelings). Just because he is a virgin, doesn't mean he doesn't know what he wants. I had it thought out before I was with a girl, and my beliefs are the same after.."

Ahhhh nd. Learn something. Intimacy is not a requirement for orgasm. It may be for a relationship. Or to get someone into a bed. But it is not a requirement for orgasm. For instance, you may be straight (I don't know), but a guy giving you a blowjob would still get you off.

Had sex ndrs? Did you know a lot about what relationships are like and what women are all about before compared to after? did you know everything about relationships before hand? Do you now?


"Tyler: how many relationships have you had so far? how old are you (if you mind me asking - I believe it IS relevant)?"

Of course, anything. I am 16 years old. I have had about 5 short, short relationships....2 medium lengths one...one really long one.....and numerous one-day, two-day things with girls I met at work or something. Of course it is relevant. And I am not a virgin. And my conception of sex was certainly changed after experiencing it.


"Certainly not if she is a bitch and was fucked 1000 times, you can't."

So wait. Wait. You can bring a woman to orgasm by cuddling?

Xev
06-03-02, 10:25 PM
since when is porn romantic???

I have a friend whose girl really gets off on watching it when they fuck.

Sweetest couple you'd ever see, too. It can be romantic for some.

Intimacy is a requirement for SOME people (only people with feelings).

Yeah, well, a dick is also necessary and your posts show a definite lack of one of those.

Look moron, we're talking about orgasm, not about love, not about marriage, not about the fucking baby in a baby carriage.

And you do not have to love somone for that to happen.

Just because he is a virgin, doesn't mean he doesn't know what he wants. I had it thought out before I was with a girl, and my beliefs are the same after..

So Nelson the virgin knows how to bring a woman to orgasm?

You speak as if you are one.

Like a virgin, woo- oooo- ooo- oh.

XeV you wouldn't know it, since

I wouldn't know about orgasm because I have a hard time understanding sensitive people?

Are you smoking crack or are you just stupid?

Tyler: how many relationships have you had so far? how old are you (if you mind me asking - I believe it IS relevant)?

However many he's been in, he's still more of a man than you could ever hope to be.

Certainly not if she is a bitch and was fucked 1000 times, you can't.

You have real issues with women, you know that?

And I'll bet he could come close.

Edit to add: Tyler:

So wait. Wait. You can bring a woman to orgasm by cuddling?

Well, first he'd have to find a woman willing to fuck him - given his attitude towards women, this would be a real problem.

Lykan
06-03-02, 10:30 PM
Yosemite Xev said, "I have a friend whose girl really gets off on watching it when they fuck.

Sweetest couple you'd ever see, too."

And because she can get off on the porn while having sex, that makes it romantic? You must have a different definition of the word "romantic" than i do... :D

Xev
06-03-02, 10:44 PM
Lykan:

And because she can get off on the porn while having sex, that makes it romantic? You must have a different definition of the word "romantic" than i do...

Well, I think that sex can be very romantic.

ndrs
06-03-02, 10:47 PM
Tyler's turn:
Learn about sarcasm, then come back. We never said porn was romantic seriously.
I have a friend whose girl really gets off on watching it when they fuck.

Sweetest couple you'd ever see, too.
I don't think Xev got your sarcasm either Tyler? Maybe you're the only one..

Had sex ndrs? Did you know a lot about what relationships are like and what women are all about before compared to after? did you know everything about relationships before hand? Do you now?
Yes. Not that much more after. No. No.
Of course, anything. I am 16 years old. I have had about 5 short, short relationships....2 medium lengths one...one really long one.....and numerous one-day, two-day things with girls I met at work or something. Of course it is relevant. And I am not a virgin. And my conception of sex was certainly changed after experiencing it.
I didn't want to emphasize your experience here, rather your attitude towards relationships. Relationships don't seem to mean to you much, do they Tyler? Of course judging by the size of Your Ego, you wouldn't know what respect for other person means...
So wait. Wait. You can bring a woman to orgasm by cuddling?
That's not what I said. I said orgasm doesn't have to happen to make sex enjoyable.

xev turn:

I have a friend whose girl really gets off on watching it when they fuck.

Sweetest couple you'd ever see, too.
Is he that ugly?
Yeah, well, a dick is also necessary and your posts show a definite lack of one of those.

So Nelson the virgin knows how to bring a woman to orgasm?

Oh my god, you're one too! This is like some bad B-grade movie!
Drunk again, xev? don't seem to get much constructive critisism out of you tonight..
I wouldn't know about orgasm because I have a hard time understanding sensitive people?
Read the first sentence - "I am cold".
However many he's been in, he's still more of a man than you could ever hope to be.
How do you define a man xev? By the size of the dick?

You have real issues with women, you know that?

And I'll bet he could come close.
just to clear this, who is he?

ndrs
06-03-02, 10:53 PM
Oops I missed one "comment":
You have real issues with women, you know that?
I have issues with bitches.
What kind of issues are you talking about XeV?

Joeman
06-03-02, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Xev
Yeah, well, a dick is also necessary.

I did not want to post things that are very obvious.

But it is hard to believe a dick is all you need. It takes more than that since I know women can't get orgasm from quickies. :D

I know intimacy itself doesn't get a woman off, but it is a requirement to drive her absolutely wild.

Without intimacy, sex is boring. I rather watch porn and masterbait.

ndrs
06-03-02, 10:59 PM
Without intimacy, sex is boring. I rather watch porn and masterbait.
I agree.
I used to say to people, I would rather masturbate than sleep with a slut. I was surprised most people wouldn't agree..

Tyler
06-03-02, 11:08 PM
"I don't think Xev got your sarcasm either Tyler? Maybe you're the only one.."

She said it sarcastically. Then you said it cannot be romantic. So she corrected you. I see no problem.



"Yes. Not that much more after. No. No."

You don't think a relationship changes after sex? Your no's already make you more humble than nelson. He would say yes to both.



"I didn't want to emphasize your experience here, rather your attitude towards relationships. Relationships don't seem to mean to you much, do they Tyler? Of course judging by the size of Your Ego, you wouldn't know what respect for other person means..."

Ouch. You assume so much of me that it hurts. I'm 16, been dating since I was 13. The medium relationships are each a couple of months. The long one was 9 months.

Relationships dont mean much to me? How in god's name did you figure that out? Do you have any supportive evidence? The fact that I have a lot of relationships, I take it, suggests to you that I take women at whim or for sexual reasons? Understand this; I'm 16 and I can pass for 19. That means I have a range of about 15-19 for datable girls. I have worked for 3 years, that means an even wider range. I play hockey. That widens the range. I greatly value relationships. I would much, much, much prefer a constant relationship with a girlfriend who I very muchg cared for without sex than just sex. I have very romantic ideas about life in general. This is a sex thread though, so I'm talking sex.

As for my ego. Yes I have one. Not nearly the size of Nelsons though. You'll see eventually that Nelson thinks he knows just about everythign there is to know.

And for my not respecting women? I'll thank you not to judge me from a single thread about sex. I cherish women in general, let alone one that I care about in that way.



"hat's not what I said. I said orgasm doesn't have to happen to make sex enjoyable"

You may have meant to say that, but you didnt say it.

- I said - and you cant fucking bring a woman to orgasm through holding her.

- You said - Certainly not if she is a bitch and was fucked 1000 times, you can't.

So you insinuated that a pure woman would be able to orgasm through holding her. See?



"Is he that ugly?"

More insults without proof.



"How do you define a man xev? By the size of the dick?"

Now why say that? Where did she ever suggest that? Groundless theory, right?

Xev
06-03-02, 11:11 PM
I don't think Xev got your sarcasm either Tyler? Maybe you're the only one..

Nope, I got it. My point was that porn can be a interesting compliment to sex, thus used romantically.

Relationships don't seem to mean to you much, do they Tyler? Of course judging by the size of Your Ego, you wouldn't know what respect for other person means...

You stupid fuckless peice of shit.

*Xev grins*

You should have seen him when he was in love. Insufferable!

That's not what I said. I said orgasm doesn't have to happen to make sex enjoyable.

True enough, but irrelevent.

Is he that ugly?

Not at all.

Read the first sentence - "I am cold".

Cold emotionally, takes a bit of effort for a man to draw me out. Not sexually, moron.

How do you define a man xev? By the size of the dick?

On the genetic level, a man has a y chromosome - usually one.

On the level I'm thinking of:

A man is honorable, brave and a real man respects women. A real man fights for his beliefs, and a real man is honest.

It's rather like the idea of the gentleman.

just to clear this, who is he?

Who is Tyler? He's a Cohen, and he's a Canuck. From his contributions, we can adjudge him experienced at love and sex, but then again, it is the 'net. From his contributions, we can also adjudge him intelligent, and be sure of this. We can also adjudge him to fit my definition of a man.

I have issues with bitches.
What kind of issues are you talking about XeV?

I am a giga-bitch, and you have no right to insult Ty.

TruthSeeker
06-03-02, 11:46 PM
The insensability rationalism causes is absolutly impressionant...:bugeye: :eek:

ndrs
06-03-02, 11:52 PM
So the topic changed to "best orgasm"? I thought it was favourite [sex] position?

It seems that was the most this argument was about...

You stupid fuckless peice of shit.

*Xev grins*

You should have seen him when he was in love. Insufferable!
Well I didn't see him when he was in love..
You seem to be cruel enough to Nelson ;).

Cold emotionally, takes a bit of effort for a man to draw me out. Not sexually, moron.
Sorry I can't read your mind xev.

I am a giga-bitch, and you have no right to insult Ty.
giga-bitch? sounds like one of the porn series..
Tyler:
Relationships dont mean much to me? How in god's name did you figure that out?
reasons follow:
and numerous one-day, two-day things with girls I met at work or something.
maybe I was wrong..

Now why say that? Where did she ever suggest that? Groundless theory, right?
xev:
Yeah, well, a dick is also necessary and your posts show a definite lack of one of those.


More insults without proof.
my insults seem to be quite mild :rolleyes: compare to xev's.

Xev
06-04-02, 12:44 AM
Well I didn't see him when he was in love..
You seem to be cruel enough to Nelson

Nelson? I have a like-"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON YOU FUCKING MORON!" relationship with Nelson. :p

giga-bitch? sounds like one of the porn series..

You mean "Lexx" dumb-arse. It ain't porn. (Although Habermann's shower scene is quite somthing ;))

Nelson:
The insensability rationalism causes is absolutly impressionant...

What?

Adam
06-04-02, 12:52 AM
Eva Haberman's shower seen... *drool*

TruthSeeker
06-04-02, 01:07 AM
What?
:D:D
I meant that rational people tend to be insensible...
You forgot that you are giving love to a human being just like you... and think that it's fine... That's how you can do sex with a slut, or just mastubate (I'm not talking about you Xev...:p:o) and so on. You have no intimacy with the person you are doing sex with. It doesn't make any difference for you. For Tyler, for example, it wouldn't be different to do sex with a slut, masturbate or whoever. He wants his pleasure. He is rational. He is self-centered (those two comes together...). But when you are sensible and less rational, intimacy is made necessary. :)

Adam
06-04-02, 01:10 AM
Truthseeker, your equating rationality with being uncaring is completely baseless. I consider myself reasonably rational, and the most important thing to me is the girl I love.

TruthSeeker
06-04-02, 01:15 AM
Adam,

Truthseeker, your equating rationality with being uncaring is completely baseless. I consider myself reasonably rational, and the most important thing to me is the girl I love.
You may be an exception... if you REALLY are...
But the other examples... :o

Xev
06-04-02, 01:22 AM
I meant that rational people tend to be insensible... You forgot that you are giving love to a human being just like you... and think that it's fine... That's how you can do sex with a slut, or just mastubate (I'm not talking about you Xev...)

For the record, Nelson, I've never slept with a man I didn't love.

For Tyler, for example, it wouldn't be different to do sex with a slut, masturbate or whoever. He wants his pleasure. He is rational. He is self-centered (those two comes together...). But when you are sensible and less rational, intimacy is made necessary.

How do you know? Sex with more than one person is groovy, virgin. So don't diss Ty, Nelson.

You may be an exception... if you REALLY are...
But the other examples...

You saying that Adamski dosen't love November? I hope you aren't.....

Asguard
06-04-02, 02:19 AM
thanks tyler

now that i think about it we WERE outside on a fairly hot day

no she hasn't got bracis, THANK GOD

there would be NO WAY we would be doing that if she did
*shudders*

To ndrs, TS and anyone else: Don't you all think you are being rather STUPID
you are trying to tell a girl you know more about what a girl likes than SHE dose??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?

even when i am 90 and about to die, having screwed my way into the history books as the guy who has screwed the most (im not really going to try to do this) i wouldn't try to tell even a VERGIN girl i know what she likes better than she dose

STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FoxMulder
06-04-02, 02:59 AM
Truthseeker:
The insensability rationalism causes is absolutly impressionant...

Very true, very very true. Rationalists are very impressionant.

Xev:

The HOLY BIBLE says that:

Proverbs 15:7
The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.

You may disperse knowledge to fools, but they will not listen. For

Proverbs 16:22
Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.

You are a fool, Xev, to waste your time this way! You must worry about your IMMORTAL SOUL rather than fight with this so-called "man".

Truthseeker:
Proverbs 18:13
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Heed these words, Seeker, and listen to those who know about sex explain such things before you judge.

ndrs:
Ecclesiaticles 5:3
For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.

More folly from a fool with nothing but foolish words for his betters! You would be better off concentrating on your SOUL in preparation for the days to come.

I have been gone for some time, and I have many experiences to share. God bless.

Tyler
06-04-02, 09:10 AM
"maybe I was wrong.."

I'm 16. I meet a girl at a show at work and we fool around a bit. It's not an unusual thing.



"You forgot that you are giving love to a human being just like you... and think that it's fine... That's how you can do sex with a slut, or just mastubate (I'm not talking about you Xev...) and so on. You have no intimacy with the person you are doing sex with. It doesn't make any difference for you. For Tyler, for example, it wouldn't be different to do sex with a slut, masturbate or whoever. He wants his pleasure. He is rational. He is self-centered (those two comes together...). But when you are sensible and less rational, intimacy is made necessary"

For starters, sensible and rational are pretty similar things. Secondly, I'll thank you not to be such an asshole in assuming things about a massive number of people when you don't have the first clue. If you recall one of our early encounters Nelson, it was when I was debating Cris on the necessity of love. Where I took the side that it was a necessity for myself in life.



"For Tyler, for example, it wouldn't be different to do sex with a slut, masturbate or whoever. He wants his pleasure"

Shut the fuck up Nelson. You couldn't be more wrong. And you have no basis to believe this either. Actually, I have already stated the exact opposite in this very thread. Shows your level of reading ability.



"my insults seem to be quite mild compare to xev's."

Just making sure you realize you're lowering yourself to the level you mocked earlier.

LIGHTBEING
06-04-02, 09:14 AM
Truthseeker is probably Peter North pretending to be a Christian:D

Lykan
06-04-02, 03:35 PM
Oh Petey!

Bowser
06-04-02, 05:25 PM
How does a thread regarding sexual positions turn into a flaming match?

Lykan
06-04-02, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Bowser
How does a thread regarding sexual positions turn into a flaming match?

Well, you see... sometimes during sex when a man's erection accidentally pops out out her vagina, it will vigorously rub up against her public hair before he realizes what's going on and has a chance to stop thrusting, and before you know it, "Houston we have IGNITION!" And thus, sexual positions turning into a flaming match. :D Literally.

As the old saying goes, "And then there was light..."

(Q)
06-04-02, 05:53 PM
Foxmulder warns:

You must worry about your IMMORTAL SOUL...

You would be better off concentrating on your SOUL in preparation for the days to come.

Why worry ? Worrying causes stress and anxiety. Enjoy life day to day and your so-called "immortal soul" will look after itself. :)

FoxMulder
06-04-02, 08:27 PM
"Why worry ? Worrying causes stress and anxiety. Enjoy life day to day and your so-called "immortal soul" will look after itself."

I try time and again to teach you the truth!!!! BUT YOU ARE BLIND!!!!!!!!


YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL WILL BURN IN HELL IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW MY WORD!!!!!!!!! I SPEAK FROM GOD HIMSELF!!!!!

ndrs
06-04-02, 08:57 PM
FoxMulder: what about your words? Are they supposed to be meaningful? From what I see you just want to join us in this stupid argument, that xev and tyler started.
Tyler: how did I insult anyone?

FoxMulder
06-04-02, 09:10 PM
FoxMulder: what about your words? Are they supposed to be meaningful? From what I see you just want to join us in this stupid argument, that xev and tyler started.

THEY HAVE BEARING ON YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL YOU FOOL!!!! WORSE THAN A ATHIESTIC SLUT LIKE XEV BELLRINGER OR TYLER IS A CHRISTIAN WHO DOES NOT TEND TO HIS SOUL!!!!!

ndrs
06-04-02, 10:27 PM
Gosh FoxMulder. Are you joking or are you really such a

LUNATIC

Isn't it enough you flood Religion with your shit?

Agent@5
06-04-02, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by FoxMulder


THEY HAVE BEARING ON YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL YOU FOOL!!!! WORSE THAN A ATHIESTIC SLUT LIKE XEV BELLRINGER OR TYLER IS A CHRISTIAN WHO DOES NOT TEND TO HIS SOUL!!!!!

heheheh Crazy Talk

Asguard
06-04-02, 11:30 PM
YAY another girl

welcome to the porn thread

don't mind foxy

hes just not getting any demonic bondage at the min

TruthSeeker
06-05-02, 12:49 AM
Now Fox remembers us Sir. Loone!!!!
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

TruthSeeker
06-05-02, 12:52 AM
Fox... calm down.

If you pass your message in a stressed way, people will listen to the stress.
If you pass your message in an arrogant way, people will listen your arrogance.
If you pass your mesage in a sad way, people will listen to your sadness.
If you pass your message in a loving way, people will listen your love and your message...:)

Agent@5
06-05-02, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Asguard
YAY another girl

welcome to the porn thread

don't mind foxy

hes just not getting any demonic bondage at the min

Just so I know, who are the other girls, and how many of them are there. Just incase I ever get into a situation where I need my fellow species as my allies. Im assuming that the girl:boy ratio is quite unproportinalised? (wow, i never knew I knew that word.. wait, it IS a word.. right?)

temporary_illusion
06-05-02, 12:59 AM
Don't ask me, I'm just a girl! *Teeheehee*

Ok...I'm a girl..but I'm not a DAMIJAG..unfortunatley
Lol
HATRED is a girl too. She has very pretty hair :)

Adam
06-05-02, 12:59 AM
I suspect all females using this BBS are actually rogue AIs designed to goad idiots like me into getting drunk far too often. :)

Agent@5
06-05-02, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Fox... calm down.

If you pass your message in a stressed way, people will listen to the stress.
If you pass your message in an arrogant way, people will listen your arrogance.
If you pass your mesage in a sad way, people will listen to your sadness.
If you pass your message in a loving way, people will listen your love and your message...:)

I really like that.

Umm I just realised something, you know just after I spammed my ass off , Its like 6:00am in the morning .. somewhere.. where is everyone?

Adam
06-05-02, 01:03 AM
Monash University, Clayton, right next to Melbourne, Victoria.

Xev
06-05-02, 01:07 AM
Oh shit! Adam found out!

hes just not getting any demonic bondage at the min

Yeah, well neither do I and I don't post in BIG BLUE LETTERS and yell about JEEEEEEEZUS.....ah, not that I mind the lack....um, er, this thread is going somwhere.....that it shouldn't....never mind that!

Fox... calm down.

Umm, that's really likely Nelson.

The insensability theism causes is absolutly impressionant, isn't it?

OKAY! Now that we've actually got some womens here, I ask them the question:

Is it possible to moan while giving head?

P.S: Oh yes, and I'm getting drunk at the moment.

P.P.S: Agent, I live in Michigan. It's 1 am here.

Asguard
06-05-02, 01:08 AM
Ringwood (if you know where that is)

Asguard
06-05-02, 01:13 AM
Ok now that we are back to intelegent conversation i am goint to ask this

deep throat

i always thought it was a myth but reasontly found out that at least one REAL person can do it

so i ask HOW THE HELL DOSE THAT WORK???????

temporary_illusion
06-05-02, 01:15 AM
Umm..as far as positions go...I guess missionary style (Okok...So I'm old fashioned :P)

Anything's good though..

And Xev...Yes it's possible..just depends how well endowed your partner is..Hehe

temporary_illusion
06-05-02, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Asguard
Ok now that we are back to intelegent conversation i am goint to ask this

deep throat

i always thought it was a myth but reasontly found out that at least one REAL person can do it

so i ask HOW THE HELL DOSE THAT WORK???????

Relaxing one's throat muscles...
A friend once told me his girlfriend was good at it because she used to be bulemic, and had lots of practice sticking things down her throat :/

Xev
06-05-02, 01:24 AM
Relaxing one's throat muscles...
A friend once told me his girlfriend was good at it because she used to be bulemic, and had lots of practice sticking things down her throat :/

Thanks TI!

Wow, this is great. You realize that I can go from thinking about astronomy and black holes to debunking proofs of the existance of God to talking about fellatio in less than a half hour.

Intellectual ferment. Oh, and booze!

Agent@5
06-05-02, 06:43 AM
Is it possible to moan while giving head?

P.S: Oh yes, and I'm getting drunk at the moment.

P.P.S: Agent, I live in Michigan. It's 1 am here. [/B][/QUOTE]


That weird huh. Coz I... umm i mean Ive HEARD that girls do that. ANd giving head is the worst.. you know, so ive heard. I cant imagine anyone honestly ienjoying it.

Michigan, a long way a way/

Tyler
06-05-02, 08:17 AM
Toronto here!

moaning while giving head is very possible Xev!!!!
Deep throat on the other hand is something that I think is rarely even attempted, let alone successful!

Tiassa
06-05-02, 09:42 AM
I didn't see it listed in the poll, but that's hardly a bother; strangely I find most have never gotten around to this simple, self-evident (says me) position for intercourse.

The Holy Cross

It's an arbitrary name.

Look on your keyboard. Next to your delete (backspace for PC users) key. See the equal sign? What happens when you push Shift?

+

At any rate: Woman--lie on your back. Man, lie beneath her legs, on your side; form the crossbeam, essentially. It's a great lazy position, technically puts the woman on top (technically), and allows a different entry.

I actually don't know anyone who has ever claimed their penis to be cylindrical, so ....

But seriously, all it does is shift the association between the vagina and the width of the penis. All I can say is that the lovers with whom I have gotten around to this position seem to enjoy it. With the penis in rotated 90°, the sensation should be different for both of you. If he's cylindrical, he'll feel the difference, but she won't.

But I'm quite surprised that this position isn't more popular. It's a bit like spoons, and yes, the guy can lay up beside her at the same time, but the penetration is minutely shallower, and more pressure is placed against the side of the vagina, which may or may not be to her liking.

Actually, though, I recommend it for any woman who says a guy is too wide. With that width arranged inside you differently, you might enjoy it.

Incidentally, While I would imagine this works for homosexual men, I cannot say that I have any data supporting such an assertion whatsoever. And none discrediting it. And I've never had a girlfriend into anal, so I've never gotten around to a field test.

two cents and then some ....,
oh, wait, Holy Cross ...
how about, My Offering,
Tiassa :cool:

NightFall
06-05-02, 10:17 AM
HOW THE HELL DOSE THAT WORK???????

in the movie dangerous beauty, a courtesan swallows a banana at a meeting with her "clients'" wives... ive tried that once or twice (were still talking about fruit here).. and it aint happening. I think it is just a skill you hafta be born with. :o

Adam
06-05-02, 10:41 AM
Hey Nightfall, welcome back!

Asguard
06-05-02, 10:42 AM
spose it would be easier the smaler the guy is

which means I'LL never get it:p

oh well:D

Great to have another girl posting on here
xev couldn't answer everything by herself

now if only bbcboy will post on here because he said he actully CAN deep throat and it would be interesting to here what he has to say about it

Asguard
06-05-02, 11:31 AM
Agent@5

um are you saying head is not enjoyable?

i know LOTS of girls who like it and xev finaly told me WHY

if you don't don't do it

*shrugs*

a guy is a basted if he expects that if you don't want to

Xev
06-05-02, 03:01 PM
moaning while giving head is very possible Xev!!!!

Fine, dispute solved, I'm taking Ty's word for it as a provisional.

Deep throat on the other hand is something that I think is rarely even attempted, let alone successful!

I gotta ask.....how would you know? You haven't started batting for the other team, have you?

Seriously, I think it should be possible, I need some better anatomy texts though. TI is right about the relaxing of the muscles in the back of the throat, hmmm....I really do need some better texts. Perhaps there's an online version of Gray's?

xev couldn't answer everything by herself

COULD TOO! :p

now if only bbcboy will post on here because he said he actully CAN deep throat and it would be interesting to here what he has to say about it

Yeah, Bbcboy, get your workaholic arse over here and tell me - er - us!

Asguard
06-05-02, 03:16 PM
who every xev's next BF is he is going to be a lucky guy:D

Tyler
06-05-02, 03:38 PM
Tiassa man, been waiting for your input on sex!


"in the movie dangerous beauty, a courtesan swallows a banana at a meeting with her "clients'" wives... ive tried that once or twice (were still talking about fruit here).. and it aint happening. I think it is just a skill you hafta be born with."

In the original porn classic, Deep Throat, the actress had to be put under hypnosis to deep throat one of the guys. Ouch!


"um are you saying head is not enjoyable?"

Some girls hate it, some girls enjoy it. In my experience at least. The majority are just willing to do it and don't enjoy or not enjoy it.



"Fine, dispute solved, I'm taking Ty's word for it as a provisional."

Or get Kazaa and download anything with Jenna Jameson giving head in it. Er.....not that I have seen any of it....


"I gotta ask.....how would you know? You haven't started batting for the other team, have you?

Seriously, I think it should be possible, I need some better anatomy texts though. TI is right about the relaxing of the muscles in the back of the throat, hmmm....I really do need some better texts. Perhaps there's an online version of Gray's?"

I know girls who've tried it on myself and a friend who had a girlfriend that spent about 2 months trying to do it. It is very possible, to me it just appears to be a very difficult thing.



"who every xev's next BF is he is going to be a lucky guy"

that bastard!

Xev
06-05-02, 03:53 PM
In the original porn classic, Deep Throat, the actress had to be put under hypnosis to deep throat one of the guys. Ouch!

Bah-humbug! Lovelace (dear Cthulhu, I almost said Lovecraft) told all sorts of weird-arse horror stories.

I'm skeptical, what's your source?

Or get Kazaa and download anything with Jenna Jameson giving head in it. Er.....not that I have seen any of it....

I'm sure. You probably don't even know who she is, right? Young innocent Tyler....

I know girls who've tried it on myself and a friend who had a girlfriend that spent about 2 months trying to do it. It is very possible, to me it just appears to be a very difficult thing.

Wonder if tonsils out/tonsils in would make a difference?

And I don't think the banana experiment would work. Curvature is all wrong.

Besides, it would look silly. Especially if one started to choke - oh man, the docs at the ER would be laughing over that one for months!

Erm, not that I would be betraying inexperience here. I'm just pretending not to know, you know? Really. I just don't want anyone to feel, you know, inept or somthing. I'm just pretending not to know, you see?

that bastard!

Awww, Tyler's jealous.

Edit to add:

Okey dokey artichokey:

I dug out a crappy text with rather silly diagrams with titles such as "The challenge of swallowing"....anyhooow:

It seems that the problem is mainly relaxing the muscles enough. As a bulimic myself for a spate, I realize that this is a skill that takes practice.

The good thing is that, if I am not mistaken, the muscles of the esophagous and throat are striated muscle tissue, which is under conscious control. It should be simply a matter of will and practice.

Asguard
06-05-02, 04:19 PM
xev told me to post this

my x had a great little trick

she loved (she said) to suck on my balls

it tickless a LOT (it was all i could do not to flinch the first time) but feels SO NICE

Tyler
06-05-02, 04:28 PM
"Bah-humbug! Lovelace (dear Cthulhu, I almost said Lovecraft) told all sorts of weird-arse horror stories.

I'm skeptical, what's your source?"

A documentary on pornography that was aired on Sex TV (which appears on City TV on Sundays at like 11:30 or something).



"I'm sure. You probably don't even know who she is, right? Young innocent Tyler...."

Wouldn't have a clue!



"Wonder if tonsils out/tonsils in would make a difference?"

No idea!



"Besides, it would look silly. Especially if one started to choke - oh man, the docs at the ER would be laughing over that one for months!

Erm, not that I would be betraying inexperience here. I'm just pretending not to know, you know? Really. I just don't want anyone to feel, you know, inept or somthing. I'm just pretending not to know, you see?"

Haahaha! Of course. I mean how would you know eh?



"Awww, Tyler's jealous."

Damn straight.



"It seems that the problem is mainly relaxing the muscles enough. As a bulimic myself for a spate, I realize that this is a skill that takes practice.

The good thing is that, if I am not mistaken, the muscles of the esophagous and throat are striated muscle tissue, which is under conscious control. It should be simply a matter of will and practice."

There ya go. So giving good head just takes practice. Like everything else in life!

Xev
06-05-02, 04:38 PM
Asguard: 'Tis called teabagging.

Tyler:
A documentary on pornography that was aired on Sex TV (which appears on City TV on Sundays at like 11:30 or something).

Umm, you might be right. I just realized that hypnosis is used occasionally to get a person to control the actin-myosin - sorry - contraction or relaxation of muscles.

So you could be right.

Haahaha! Of course. I mean how would you know eh?

I DO know! I really do, I know everything there is to know about this subject. I'm just pretending not to, because, ummm, because I want to!

Damn straight.

Awww, that's so cute.

*Xev wonders how else she can make Tyler jealous*

There ya go. So giving good head just takes practice. Like everything else in life!

Practice AND the application of science!

Better living through science!

Hmmm, I think I should use this example to prove to Nelson that science is a good thing. :cool:

Asguard
06-05-02, 04:48 PM
i didn't know what it was called but next time i get a girl i am picking one who is as intreaged as you and likes sucking on them to:D

GOD that felt good:o

heheheh

Tyler
06-05-02, 04:49 PM
"Umm, you might be right. I just realized that hypnosis is used occasionally to get a person to control the actin-myosin - sorry - contraction or relaxation of muscles.

So you could be right."

Maybe. I don't really know. Depends on how valid yuo think SexTV is as a source.


"I DO know! I really do, I know everything there is to know about this subject. I'm just pretending not to, because, ummm, because I want to!"

Oh of course. Then I take it you conducted extensive 'field research' right?


"Awww, that's so cute.

*Xev wonders how else she can make Tyler jealous*"

Haha! Keep it up and I'll leave!


"Practice AND the application of science!

Better living through science!

Hmmm, I think I should use this example to prove to Nelson that science is a good thing."

Nah. Nelson would say that deep throating and better head doesn't matter because the only thing that makes a person orgasm is the 'oneness' of sex or the 'joining of spirits'.

Personally, I never found a blowjob that spiritual. But meh, whatever floats your boat......

(or finds your lost remote. I don't care what any of you say about rap because personally I hate most of it - but that line is great).

Xev
06-05-02, 05:43 PM
"Maybe. I don't really know. Depends on how valid yuo think SexTV is as a source."

Beats "Nature". :p

"Oh of course. Then I take it you conducted extensive 'field research' right?"

With a control group too!

"Haha! Keep it up and I'll leave!"

Russel Crowe is cuuuuuuuute.

Noo! Please don't leave. I'll shut up about Russel.

"Nah. Nelson would say that deep throating and better head doesn't matter because the only thing that makes a person orgasm is the 'oneness' of sex or the 'joining of spirits'.'

Nelson would know this because of his extensive sexual experience, which makes Casanova look like a choir-boy in comparison.

He might also suggest techniques on how to bring a woman to orgasm by holding her.

"Personally, I never found a blowjob that spiritual. But meh, whatever floats your boat......"

Really? Oh wait, of course not, we've never met.

ndrs will be disappointed.

Asguard:
"i didn't know what it was called but next time i get a girl i am picking one who is as intreaged as you and likes sucking on them to"

Good luck!

Tyler
06-05-02, 06:16 PM
"With a control group too!"

Haha! 'Friends of the blow job!' Haha!


"Russel Crowe is cuuuuuuuute.
Noo! Please don't leave. I'll shut up about Russel."

Aw......aw.......
Like a dagger through my heart, Xev.


"Nelson would know this because of his extensive sexual experience, which makes Casanova look like a choir-boy in comparison.

He might also suggest techniques on how to bring a woman to orgasm by holding her."

You better believe it. I think Nelson should write a book on sex. 'Dr. Nelson teaches the way of loving a woman as his years of experience have taught him'


"Really? Oh wait, of course not, we've never met."

Aw..... You had to go and spoil everyone's illusion!

Xev
06-05-02, 06:59 PM
"Haha! 'Friends of the blow job!' Haha!"

And double-blinded studies!

Umm, oh wait, that wouldn't be possible....

"Aw......aw.......
Like a dagger through my heart, Xev."

Awwwww.

"You better believe it. I think Nelson should write a book on sex. 'Dr. Nelson teaches the way of loving a woman as his years of experience have taught him'"

I think so too. I'd buy it. I'd put it on my shelf next to "Mike Tyson's Guide to Self-Control" and "Dale Earnheart's Guide to Driving Safely" and "The Bush Twins' Guide to Responsible Drinking"

"Aw..... You had to go and spoil everyone's illusion!"

Well I couldn't have you saying things like "Personally, I never found a blowjob that spiritual. But meh, whatever floats your boat....." and have them thinking we've met, could I?

I do have a reputation to maintain.

NightFall
06-05-02, 08:12 PM
ive been following this thread, and ive read the whole thing, well mostly, a few times did get distracted by Jenna on kazaa, (although i do think Vannessa Del Rio would have been a better example) ..hehe. :rolleyes: i havn't had much to say on the current topic, because i really dissagree with everything the other female opinion in here has said (except a few of the sarcastic remarks :)) but i have one big question. WTF is Nelson??? this is really driving me crazy.. am i just missing it everytime this Nelson person posts, or is everyone just using someones real name to confuse little people like me?.. :confused:

Tyler
06-05-02, 08:25 PM
"although I do think Vannessa Del Rio would have been a better example"

Agreed. Though I've uh, never seen that either......


"i havn't had much to say on the current topic, because i really dissagree with everything the other female opinion in here has said"

Then chime in!!!!!!!


"WTF is Nelson??? this is really driving me crazy.. am i just missing it everytime this Nelson person posts, or is everyone just using someones real name to confuse little people like me?.."

Truthseeker!

NightFall
06-05-02, 08:54 PM
and finally the puzzle makes a picture.. instead of a mess that sticks to the bottome of your feet when you get out of the shower.
thanks!

temporary_illusion
06-05-02, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Agent@5

That weird huh. Coz I... umm i mean Ive HEARD that girls do that. ANd giving head is the worst.. you know, so ive heard. I cant imagine anyone honestly ienjoying it.

Michigan, a long way a way/ [/B]

Agent@5
It can be enjoyable. One guy I sucked a few months ago was...mmmmmm ^_^
It all depends on the personal hygiene of the guy, I reckon. I didn't like sucking my ex much because it was icky..but yes...good luck :P

Xev
06-05-02, 09:27 PM
Taste depends on diet. This is documented, and there's a scientific reason for this, but I forget what it is.

Oh well! I'd bore you anyway!

Pineapple is recommended. (And, on the off chance that anyone connects my nick to a certain scifi series, yes, it is THAT internet legend).

Anyways, pineapple, and avoid over-eating red meats.

Tyler
06-05-02, 09:36 PM
". I didn't like sucking my ex much because it was icky..but yes...good luck :P"

Ahhh. Isn't your ex on these boards?

NightFall
06-05-02, 09:37 PM
:o i dont care who eats what. (still with fruit). In the end its still disgusting.

Tyler
06-05-02, 09:45 PM
"i dont care who eats what. (still with fruit). In the end its still disgusting."

spoken from experience?

Out of curiosity, who's the chick in yoru avatar?

temporary_illusion
06-05-02, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Tyler
". I didn't like sucking my ex much because it was icky..but yes...good luck :P"

Ahhh. Isn't your ex on these boards?


Umm....no :P

Tyler
06-05-02, 09:47 PM
"Umm....no :P"
Asgaurd?

Tyler
06-05-02, 09:56 PM
"Ty: I think TI is referring to another ex."

Makes sense.


"And my avatar is cuter, right Ty? Right?

*Sniffles*"

The old one is! I think the other one you use looks better, personally! But still, veeeeeeeery cute Xev!



"I'll shut up about Russel, really I will."

Nah. Hold your fantasy's. Just as long as you don't start yelling out 'Ohhhh RUSSEL!'

Adam
06-05-02, 10:17 PM
Nightfall, I thought it was quite disgusting at first after the first girl I went down on was quite disgusting. Very nasty hygiene problems. However, other girls have been better. I suspect it can be very good or very bad depending on the people involved. Some people work together, some don't. I find that when receiving, it is always good, but some is way better than others.

NightFall
06-05-02, 11:32 PM
I thought it was quite disgusting at first after the first girl I went down on was quite disgusting.
thats too bad, id have to say my expirience with that was quite pleasant. but im talking about with a guy. i think thats disgusting. i think its completely different.

NightFall
06-05-02, 11:35 PM
btw VEX
i like this av much better.... your last one reminds me of a psychotic barbie with all the blue eyeshadow the uppy-closey-ness.... -shivers-.

Tyler
06-05-02, 11:46 PM
"thats too bad, id have to say my expirience with that was quite pleasant. but im talking about with a guy. i think thats disgusting. i think its completely different"

Why disgusting?



"btw VEX
i like this av much better.... your last one reminds me of a psychotic barbie with all the blue eyeshadow the uppy-closey-ness.... -shivers-."

I think the last one looks almost like a computer graphic. But this one is sexy! Thank you Xev!!!

Lykan
06-05-02, 11:46 PM
Question -- if you like giving oral sex, and you hook up with a boyfriend / girlfriend who won't give you oral sex because they don't like doing it, are you still willing to give it to them? And if so, are you willing to do it just as often as you would otherwise, or..?

NightFall
06-05-02, 11:56 PM
well, i never ask for it, and if i have not had the "proper housekeeping", will not allow it, but i still get begged for it severl times a week. lol.
Why disgusting?
i think it is down right awful. its veiny, and hairy, and ugly, and big and scary, and they smell like.. ugh.. sweat and fabric softener... blehhh..

Adam
06-06-02, 12:00 AM
Again, I would say it depends on the people involved. I hated going south on some girls, loved it with others. After a particularly bad one I mentioned before, I was thoroughly disgusted with the idea for a long time. Now, however, what I find apealing about it all is giving pleasure; I love making someone feel good.

NightFall
06-06-02, 12:02 AM
I still have to disagree, it dont matter who it is. it makes me sick to my stomach.

Lykan
06-06-02, 12:04 AM
Yeah i hear ya, Adam. I went down on one woman, and immediately had the distinct impression that i'd just entered the kitchen and there were burnt tacos cooking in the oven. :eek: I didn't find the idea very appealing for a while after that either.

NightFall
06-06-02, 12:04 AM
but like i said before, with girls, i have no problem. so i guess i do agree with you. LOL. :p

Adam
06-06-02, 12:06 AM
I suppose it's not a matter of agreement or disagreement, but of personal taste (a little pun there). :)

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Tyler:
Nah. Nelson would say that deep throating and better head doesn't matter because the only thing that makes a person orgasm is the 'oneness' of sex or the 'joining of spirits'.

That's true... :)
"Oneness of sex" and "joining of spirits" means the same thing...
Do you know Kama Sutra... :)

From this site:http://www.tantramagic.com/tantricpractices.html

"In the East lovemaking is seen as a pleasurable journey; the Tantric Buddhists, for example, use sex as an enjoyable path to enlightenment. "

"Experience new dimensions of sexual pleasure and achieve a deeper sense of intimacy with this accessible and erotic interpretation of Tantra's ancient teachings. Understand the highly pleasurable Tantric rituals that enable you and your lover to create the ideal ambience for the sacred fusion of body, heart, and soul. Follow erotic sequences for exploring the wonder of the body and transforming every aspect of your sexual relationship. Discover how basic lovemaking positions hold the key to inner transformation. These preparations open he door to blissful sexual union and the Tantric lovemaking positions that are so vividly demonstrated in glowing photographs. Here, by experiencing the stillness of Tantric lovemaking and learning how to stay relaxed in high states of arousal, you can go beyond orgasm to the ultimate harmonious union that is the very essence of Tantra. "

http://www.sexforenlightenment.com/sfe/sex/techniques.htm
http://home.att.net/~projecty2k/kamasutra/godislove.htm
http://www.tantraattahoe.com/tantra.htm

From this one: http://www.tantraattahoe.com/orgasm.htm

"
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have more orgasms more easily?
Wouldn't it be fantastic to make your orgasms last and last?
Wouldn't it be awesome if you could feel that peak passion in your heart and soul, all over your body, and pulsing with your beloved at the same time?
"

This link might be interesting for ya...:D:D:D:D
http://www.condom.com/cak-stul.html

NightFall
06-06-02, 12:10 AM
yeah.. but were not buddhists.. well not most of us, not to offend anyone. we just want some buddhi. hehehe. sorry i couldn't help myself. :p

Adam
06-06-02, 12:14 AM
Silly. :p

Tyler
06-06-02, 12:14 AM
"That's true...
"Oneness of sex" and "joining of spirits" means the same thing..."

Nelson, this is a simple fact that I want you to get through your head. Orgasm can be reached through mearly the physical. Some people (including myself) feel things better if it's with someone you care for.

If a man gave you a blowjob Nelson, you would still orgasm. Whether you were gay or not. Same with two women even if both were straight.

There are nerves in your reproductive organs that release chemicles in your brain which create the sensation of pleasure. Do you want the exacts? I'll go get a site for you if you do.



"Do you know Kama Sutra..."

Yup. Never put much of it into use though. And you don't know Kama Sutra either Nelson. Again, this is one of those things you can't say you know until you've actually had normal sex at least.

Xev
06-06-02, 12:19 AM
btw VEX
i like this av much better.... your last one reminds me of a psychotic barbie with all the blue eyeshadow the uppy-closey-ness.... -shivers-

Tony1?

SORRY!

Thanks. Xenia's cute, no?

Ty:
Nah. Hold your fantasy's. Just as long as you don't start yelling out 'Ohhhh RUSSEL!'

What fantasies? He's fat!

Nelson:
That's true...
"Oneness of sex" and "joining of spirits" means the same thing...
Do you know Kama Sutra...

Nelson dear, I've read the Kama Sutra three times. It does not go into that.

"In the East lovemaking is seen as a pleasurable journey; the Tantric Buddhists, for example, use sex as an enjoyable path to enlightenment. "

Actually Nelson, the origional idea behind Tantra was to NOT feel any pleasure, to transcend the body.

Asguard
06-06-02, 04:09 AM
Interesting, i have never met a girl who hated head

May i ask you, would you exspect a guy to go down on you if you don't want to do the same for him?

B\W nightfall your new avatar looks like a vampire, watch out or foxy will come after you

Agent@5
06-06-02, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Asguard
Interesting, i have never met a girl who hated head

May i ask you, would you exspect a guy to go down on you if you don't want to do the same for him?

B\W nightfall your new avatar looks like a vampire, watch out or foxy will come after you

no not at all, not if he didnt enjoy it. It wouldnt be good then, coz id know he'd hate what he's doing....

temporary_illusion
06-06-02, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Asguard
Interesting, i have never met a girl who hated head

May i ask you, would you exspect a guy to go down on you if you don't want to do the same for him?

B\W nightfall your new avatar looks like a vampire, watch out or foxy will come after you

You wanted me to go down on you, without returning the favour

Practice what you preach, meanie bum :P

Asguard
06-06-02, 07:26 AM
HOW many times did i offer?

Agent@5
06-06-02, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Asguard
HOW many times did i offer?


ooookay then. You night have offered her, but i was left high and dry.. so to speak lol :p

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 09:17 PM
Tyler,

Nelson, this is a simple fact that I want you to get through your head. Orgasm can be reached through mearly the physical. Some people (including myself) feel things better if it's with someone you care for.

And this is what I want you to get through your head. Those things allow you to feel orgasm more easily, have many of them for a long time, and you feel it all over your body, not only.. "there"...:bugeye: :eek:

Nelson dear, I've read the Kama Sutra three times. It does not go into that.

Not the one I read...:o
Do you see one of those links? I even posted this quote:
"In the East lovemaking is seen as a pleasurable journey; the Tantric Buddhists, for example, use sex as an enjoyable path to enlightenment. "

Tyler
06-06-02, 09:21 PM
"And this is what I want you to get through your head. Those things allow you to feel orgasm more easily, have many of them for a long time, and you feel it all over your body, not only.. "there"..."

And you know from experience.
Anyway yes, love and such do make sexual experiences better for many people. But they are not necessary. In any way.



"Not the one I read..."

What you've read is some new-age karma sutra.

Xev
06-06-02, 09:30 PM
Nelson:

And this is what I want you to get through your head. Those things allow you to feel orgasm more easily, have many of them for a long time, and you feel it all over your body, not only.. "there"...

May I note that a virgin, by definition, has never experienced orgasm? ;)*

Not the one I read...
Do you see one of those links? I even posted this quote:
"In the East lovemaking is seen as a pleasurable journey; the Tantric Buddhists, for example, use sex as an enjoyable path to enlightenment. "

You read the translation that I gave you, then Avatar sent you a copy.

WE'RE READING THE SAME BLOODY TRANSLATION!

I don't care what your links say, they are wrong, wrong, wrong!

Okay, I'll be open-minded. Maybe my studies were wrong. Maybe.

So tell me, where in the Kama does it say that sex is about mystical union?

*Hmph! Here's a debate!

Define 'virgin'.

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 09:35 PM
Tyler,

What you've read is some new-age karma sutra.
No... I read the ancient one, which for "coincidence" matches perfectly with the Hindu philosophy...:rolleyes:

Tyler
06-06-02, 09:38 PM
Then please tell me how you know kama sutra without having had sex.

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 09:57 PM
Only because you don't know the practice, it doesn't mean you don't know the theory...

Xev
06-06-02, 10:25 PM
I'm still waiting for my citation, Nelson......:rolleyes:

No... I read the ancient one, which for "coincidence" matches perfectly with the Hindu philosophy...

Not coincidence dear, the writers of the Kama were Hindus.

And tell me, how does a document that advocates and explains how to screw people over fit in with your philosophy of Love?

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 10:37 PM
Xev,

Which citation...?

Not coincidence dear, the writers of the Kama were Hindus.

That was my point... Kama SUTRA...
Do you know what a "sutra" is...?

From:http://www.io.com/~snewton/zen/zen-term.html
"sutra
discourses of the Buddha"

... ahhh... ehhh... wasn't Buddha the one of the Buddhism...?
Which by "coincidence" holds his own name...?
What did he teached? How to screw people? Or how to screw people AND by screwing people attain enlightnement?

He teached that attachements and desires causes suffering. Do you think he forgot the when he wrote the Kama Sutra???:confused: :bugeye: :eek:

And tell me, how does a document that advocates and explains how to screw people over fit in with your philosophy of Love?

As long as it's done with Love (not love, or indifference...) than it's good. Anything made with Love (I mean the TRUE Love...) is good and beneficial. :)

Love,
Nelson

Tyler
06-06-02, 10:41 PM
"As long as it's done with Love (not love, or indifference...) than it's good. Anything made with Love (I mean the TRUE Love...) is good and beneficial"

Nelson, last set of definitions you gave us stated that Love = unconditional love
and love = romantic love

Sex will be done out of love then.

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 11:03 PM
You can have Unconditional Love for someone and do sex with this person if this person is intimate with you. But this kind of sex would be extremely innocent and like a play (and lots of orgasms... at least theorically...).

The "love" is not romantic, it's a mind disease. It's an addiction of a chemical that the brain realeases that is called serotonin. This is the chemical that produces the sensation of pleasure. It's a chemical that helps the impuses to travel from neuron to neuron, through synapses. In execess, it gives you pleasure. That's how drugs works. The drug influences the realease of the serotonin which causes pleasure (and excess of information...). When the effect passes, your brain lack serotonin and you easily get depressed. The same in "love" relationship. It works the same way.

A Love relationship is different. The level of serotonin is always controlled and trough time it gets highter and highter and never come back to lower levels (in an intimate Love relationship example). To other people, it's much simpler...

Agent@5
06-06-02, 11:04 PM
sex isnt even natural, if there is such a thing as being natural

Tyler
06-06-02, 11:05 PM
You need to clear something up for me here because, and mabye this is just because of your language disability, I am a little confused.

Are you now saying that romantic love (man and wife) is not due to seretonin?

Tyler
06-06-02, 11:06 PM
"sex isnt even natural, if there is such a thing as being natural"

Do explain.

Adam
06-06-02, 11:08 PM
Sex is natural. The world should revolve around sex instead of lawyers, guns, & money. Everyone should be shagging their problems away. George Bush and Usama Bin Laden should shag until they're too tired to shoot each other. Indians and Pakistanis should shag until they're too tired to make war. Lawyers should be pushed off tall buildings, but everyone else should shag. :p

PS: Yep, I'm drunk. :)

Xev
06-06-02, 11:08 PM
Nelson, Buddha didn't write the Kama Sutra. Have you even read it? It's not the work of one person.

... ahhh... ehhh... wasn't Buddha the one of the Buddhism...?
Which by "coincidence" holds his own name...?

Are you drunk or stoned? Of course Buddhism is named after its founder.

What did he teached? How to screw people? Or how to screw people AND by screwing people attain enlightnement?

He teached that attachements and desires causes suffering. Do you think he forgot the when he wrote the Kama Sutra???

Okay, Nelson, Buddha didn't write the Kama Sutra.

And umm, I quote:

When the girl cannot make up her mind, or will not express her readiness to marry, the man should obtain her in any one of the following ways:

On a fitting occasion, and under some excuse, he should, by means of a female friend with whom he is well acquainted, and whom he can trust, and who also is well known to the girl's family, get the girl brought unexpectedly to his house, and he should then bring fire from the house of a Brahman, and proceed as before described.

When the marriage of the girl with some other person draws near, the man should disparage the future husband to the utmost in the mind of the mother of the girl, and then having got the girl to come with her mother's consent to a neighbouring house, he should bring fire from the house of a Brahman, and proceed as above.

In other words, it's a description of how to force a woman to marry you. Shall I go into the guidelines for courtesans, and how they are to bilk a man out of all his money?

As long as it's done with Love (not love, or indifference...) than it's good. Anything made with Love (I mean the TRUE Love...) is good and beneficial.

So if I screw a man over for his money, and do it out of Love, it is good? Ooookay. :bugeye:

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 11:08 PM
Tyler,

Are you now saying that romantic love (man and wife) is not due to seretonin?

No, I'm saying it IS...

Tyler
06-06-02, 11:13 PM
So you are saying that the love between a man and his wife is a bad kind of love.

Please go spew your garbage elsewhere Nelson. You will find no support from me if you are, without having experienced it, saying that romantic love is worse than your 'Love' that you share for Osama Bin Laden, Adolf Hitler and me.

TruthSeeker
06-06-02, 11:55 PM
Do you really know what I'm saying...?:bugeye:

I'm saying that if you see someone suffering from poverty in the street, don't feel pity, but wish this sperson happy, simply like that, you Love this person. There are no requirements. For "love" (how you call it...) there are requirements. You judge. True Love never judges.

In this example of wife and husband, they will always judge each other. They won't probably even really know each other, if they are not honest. How is the rate of divorce? Do you know? (I don't actually... I should find out...) Do people live happily with each other? How many abusive relationships there are in comparison to healthy ones?

...

NightFall
06-07-02, 12:21 AM
wow.. lots of msgs today... and i dont even know what.. seretonin .....is.....

but to reply to Asguard , no, i would never ask for it or expect it if i didn't give it. (and btw, they are all vampires.)

and here is another question for thr person who thinks buddha wrote the kama sutra... weren't all of his origional followers male? think that would put a whole new twist on things.... :o

NightFall
06-07-02, 12:39 AM
hmm.. i just noticed the "girl on top" position is in the lead... hmm... you people must not be from where im from..... -laughs-.... (besides vex, but if i remember correctly, she picked "none")

Tyler
06-07-02, 12:41 AM
"hmm.. i just noticed the "girl on top" position is in the lead... hmm... you people must not be from where im from.."

Michigan chicks don't dig being in control?

NightFall
06-07-02, 01:03 AM
Michigan chicks don't dig being in control?

i never said that.... just didn't think it would be #1 on the list is all.....

Agent@5
06-07-02, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by Tyler
"sex isnt even natural, if there is such a thing as being natural"

Do explain.

yeah, who's gunna make me?? :bugeye: ....................:)

ndrs
06-07-02, 03:57 PM
Sex is not natural... Sex is supernatural, right? ;)

Agent@5
06-07-02, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by ndrs
Sex is not natural... Sex is supernatural, right? ;)

exactley!!!! and we sll ned to have supernatural powers!

Asguard
06-09-02, 10:38 AM
actully who ever wrote sex is not natural is right

at least for anyone who uses a condom, gives or recives head, uses wips and chains or anything else

sex IS natural if you are fucking to just get the girl pregnant

thats what nature intended

but who cares if its not natural, ITS FUN:D

temporary_illusion
06-09-02, 06:12 PM
How would you know if sex is fun or not? o_O

Agent@5
06-10-02, 01:56 AM
Yay, i was right I was right la la la la la la la.

do guys really want sex as much as they make out to?

kmguru
06-10-02, 02:03 AM
Looks like this topic is hot. Can it compete with \777 ? I wonder...

Hey Goatgirl, how goes it.... :D

Adam
06-10-02, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by Agent@5
Yay, i was right I was right la la la la la la la.

do guys really want sex as much as they make out to?

Yep. More, even. Think about it constantly. Don't get to do it that often, but think about it constantly.

Asguard
06-10-02, 03:59 AM
from experiance (from friends, not personal experiance *sticks out tongue at TI*) i know for a fact that girls are as horny as guys, they just hide it better

temporary_illusion
06-10-02, 04:44 AM