Post your favorite biblical quotes here, then if you'd like to comment on them it is welcome. Unfortunately I've no idea what the bible says because I've never read one..

You may also post quotes you think reflect upon the bibles nature, be it falsity or truth.

It's good for a fool to keep his mouth shut so people won't know he's a fool.

Unfortunately I've no idea what the bible says because I've never read one..

Yet you are unwaveringly convinced that it is entirely false. :rolleyes:

Yes, yes, the entire bible is BS and junk, but still what is your favorite quote?

Yes, yes, the entire bible is BS and junk, but still what is your favorite quote?

...and how do you know this if you never read it?

John 10:34, “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 6:66 The Lord Jesus looked across the room to one of the twelve and said, hey mate don't fish-lip it and save me a drag!

Leviticus 22:24 You must not offer to the lord an animal whose testicles are bruised, crushed, torn or cut

Gotta laugh.

http://www.dexters4u.com/images/testicle.jpg


Oooo yeah, God's gonna love these ones.


LOL
Michael

Post your favorite biblical quotes here, then if you'd like to comment on them it is welcome. Unfortunately I've no idea what the bible says because I've never read one..

You may also post quotes you think reflect upon the bibles nature, be it falsity or truth.

5 When he entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, appealing to him 6and saying, "Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, in terrible distress." 7And he said to him, "I will come and cure him." 8The centurion answered, "Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; but only speak the word, and my servant will be healed. 9For I also am a man under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes, and to another, 'Come,' and he comes, and to my slave, 'Do this,' and the slave does it." 10When Jesus heard him, he was amazed and said to those who followed him, "Truly I tell you, in no oned in Israel have I found such faith.


Always liked this part. When I saw the Franco Zefferelli prod "Jesus of Nazereth" it was somewhat amusing to see Ernest Borgnine take the part of the Centurion. ;)

Chester 4:14 - "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."

...and how do you know this if you never read it?

It doesn't take a genius to realize a book is just a book.

Cor. 1:17

It doesn't take a genius to realize a book is just a book.

I couldn't agree more.

NIV Matthew 6:1 "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Oh boy, my friend Chris keeps yappin bout how I lost my credibility saying I never read the bible, what he fails to understand is you can't loose credibility just because you don't study a work of fiction, it has no credibility to begin with.. it's fiction :p

I'm done trying to have discussions with you.
I'm just not going to bother anymore.

I know so many but...

Proverbs: 12:18 was the second scripture I learned and commited to my memory.

"There exist one speaking thoughtlessly, as if stabs of a sword. But the tongue of the wise one is a healing"


But as to my faith and knowledge there are two that stand along

John 173:

"This means everlasting life their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God and of the one you sent forth...Jesus Christ"

To go with that Jesus ecounter with some of his disciples and

John 6:69
"Shall you go away from me also?" asked Jesus. "To which Simon Peter says. Teacher, who shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We believed and have come to know that you are the chosen one of God."

These scriptures are well suited to gether. From them we understand that believing is not enough we must take in knowledge and come to an accurate knowledge of God and his provisions to deliever man from sin and death.

this quotes by far the best, jesus curse's a fig tree for being out of season, KJV mark 11,13: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14: And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
go figure!

What? They were told never to eat a fig tree?

Good to see you guys are doing your daily Bible study.

Yes IAC, join us... God wants you to come and be with our collective.. "we are borg resistance is futile".

That scripture is symbolic. It means to have no association with those that do not produce fine fruits. Those who don't produce fine fruits are those that will be "cut off" Those who are apart of Satan's world.

Just FYI

What? They were told never to eat a fig tree?no they weren't told that.
jesus did not like it that a fig tree had no fruit, because it wasn't time for the tree to bare fruit, so being the clever person he was, he cursed the tree.


That scripture is symbolic. It means to have no association with those that do not produce fine fruits. Those who don't produce fine fruits are those that will be "cut off" Those who are apart of Satan's world.

Just FYIutter rubbish, so if those are symbolic, then the whole of Mark 11 must be, remember this is the chapter where he steals a colt, throws people out of the temple and tells you faith can move mountains, well he lied on that point, so in this one chapter he's a a thief, a lier, and a fool.
so it might be a good Idea to throw this chapter out, and say it's symbolic.

lmao

utter rubbish, so if those are symbolic, then the whole of Mark 11 must be, remember this is the chapter where he steals a colt, throws people out of the temple and tells you faith can move mountains, well he lied on that point, so in this one chapter he's a a thief, a lier, and a fool.
so it might be a good Idea to throw this chapter out, and say it's symbolic.

Rubbish. I think not. Faith is indeed powerful and can move the unmovable. Thus through you faith you have in God he moves the mountain. Yet our faith is tempered through knowledge of his will.

Yes, it takes two to tango.

utter rubbish, so if those are symbolic, then the whole of Mark 11 must be ...


And exactly how did you come to that conclusion???

Indeed. If it is not in God's will to move the mountation then we have not place our faith in his will.

But...if he asures us...and makes it evident then it will be just as he says.

Which brings me to another scripture I do appreciate
The Definition of Faith

Hebrews 11:1

Faith, is the asured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not yet beheld

The following passage is from Proverbs 18:1-2 --

"Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom. A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself."

Perfect...

Indeed. If it is not in God's will to move the mountation then we have not place our faith in his will.

You seem to imply that you can only move the mountain if god so wills that the mountain be moved - and thus at the end of the day your 'faith' is valueless unless god wants the mountain to move. What you want is neither here nor there.

Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

This however indicates that gods will is irrelevant. If you want a wallet that never runs out of money or you want a mountain to get up and take a 50 mile walk before jumping to its death off a larger mountain then you will get it as long as you want it.

So, in saying I would like you to demonstrate this to me. Get a video camera, ask for a mountain to move and, as long as you believe it, it will happen. This would clear up a lot of issues and save a lot of forum debates.

I don't think God would move a mountain just for your amusement Snake.

I don't think God would move a mountain just for your amusement Snake.

So he reneges on his word? His solemn promise? Besides, it isn't for my "amusement", it's to show me that your god's word is real.. which - given all your preaching etc, is surely what you want? You want us atheists to believe in your god and his word.. no?

You seem to imply that you can only move the mountain if god so wills that the mountain be moved - and thus at the end of the day your 'faith' is valueless unless god wants the mountain to move. What you want is neither here nor there.

I don't simply imply it. The scriptures say so. And at the end of the day. God's will is the only thing that matters.

Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

This however indicates that gods will is irrelevant. If you want a wallet that never runs out of money or you want a mountain to get up and take a 50 mile walk before jumping to its death off a larger mountain then you will get it as long as you want it.

This however is not for individuals like yourself, who would ask, for the simple act to test God and put foolish material pursuits ahead of his will.

Matt: 6:33

Seek first the Kingdom and his righteousness and all these other things will be added to you.

Those other things being things which you need.

I think that God presents the gift of faith to everyone, but not all accept the gift.

The scriptures say so. And at the end of the day. God's will is the only thing that matters.

So then, if the scriptures state that only gods will happens, (you can only move a mountain if god wills it), then surely one can only do evil if god wills it, or lack a belief in god if god wills it etc. Instead it is likely that you will now go against such a notion and claim that gods will has nothing to do with it and indeed we're all going against his will - which he seemingly would therefore allow.

This however is not for individuals like yourself, who would ask, for the simple act to test God and put foolish material pursuits ahead of his will.

This is where you make a fundamental error. I am not testing god, I am testing your faith. I already have gods word that he will give you whatever you ask for if you have enough faith. There is no testing of his word, merely testing whether you have enough faith or not. If you fail then you clearly don't have enough faith in god - which might lead to burning.

As such surely it would be in your best interest to try? Not to test god, but to test yourself?

So then, if the scriptures state that only gods will happens, (you can only move a mountain if god wills it),
correct.

then surely one can only do evil if god wills it, or lack a belief in god if god wills it etc. Instead it is likely that you will now go against such a notion and claim that gods will has nothing to do with it and indeed we're all going against his will - which he seemingly would therefore allow.
and yet you come to this conclusion. Why?

and yet you come to this conclusion. Why?

Repeated statements by theists under the notion that we have "free will". If everything we do is indeed 'gods will' then our "free will" is actually non existant.

You claimed that scripture supports your claim that god will only give you what you want if he wills it. Kindly show me this text. I have indeed supplied scripture that states the opposite. You will get whatever your will wants if you ask for it.

Repeated statements by theists under the notion that we have "free will". If everything we do is indeed 'gods will' then our "free will" is actually non existant.

And yet..what is the subject of the scripture? Prayer or Random wishes? What are we speaking of? More importantly what is the propper view of prayer?

Let's remember god is good, he offers you anything as long as you don't argue and become independant (similar to Christians). Let us now pray, pray for the day of gods aka Google.com's return.

And yet..what is the subject of the scripture? Prayer or Random wishes?

From a scriptural point of view, anything:

Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours

Matthew 18:20
Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.

I cannot believe for one second that there aren't two or three people that haven't asked for world peace, the end of disease etc and yet where are the results of that? gods promise has failed. god has lied.

You Saquist would be hard pressed to show me biblically that only certain prayers would be answered - especially given the above passages. I ask you to try.

The bible tells us to pray in accordance with God's will at 1 John 5:14

And this is the cofidence that we have toward him, that no matter what it is that we ask according to his will, he hears us.

So we're talking about prayer. Prayer is a provision of communication that God gives to his faithful followers But the scriptures warns us that the unrighteous God does not hear.

So the propper view of prayer is means of communication and we do so in accordance with his will.

So the propper view of prayer is means of communication and we do so in accordance with his will.

The passage you cited is with relevance to eternal life, (i.e he who has the son has life/he who does not have the son does not have life) - that is what it talks about when it mentions his will and a theists confidence that god sticks to his word. The passage goes on to say that:

"whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him".

This again supports my statements that you can ask for anything and get it and goes against any statement you make implying that you will only receive specific things, (i.e god wont save millions of kids dying of terminal illness but will help you get a job).

The passage you cited is with relevance to eternal life, (i.e he who has the son has life/he who does not have the son does not have life) - that is what it talks about when it mentions his will and a theists confidence that god sticks to his word. The passage goes on to say that:

That is correct. It is God's will that mankind gain to repentance. We ask for that purpose to come to pass on the Earth in our prayers as directed by Jesus.

"Your kingdom come your will be done in heaven and also upon the Earth."

Prayer is the only way we communicate to God and we do so through Jesus name. Prayers not recognizing Jesus' contribution to his father's will, God does not hear.

That is correct. It is God's will that mankind gain to repentance

That is what the passage is trying to imply. 'gods will' is an issue with him only hearing those that 'have the son in them'. In saying, an atheist like myself cannot get my prayers answered - because I do not have the son in me. You on the other hand, as a theist that 'has the son in him' can ask for anything and it will be given because you have the son in you - and that is gods will. He will only hear you if you have fulfilled that requirement.

The passage does not indicate that god will only answer certain prayers, (indeed it states the opposite as I mentioned earlier), but that he will only answer prayers from certain people, (i.e ones that have the son in them). As long as they do he will answer any prayer.

Man the bible sure says alot :shrug:

Any prayers which are in His will, obviously, if two Christians are praying for opposite things, at least one will not be accomodated, understand?

This is where the whole "imagine and create your own reality" New Age b.s. is so hokey, how can conflicting desired realities from two "imagine and creators" both be manifested?

The passage does not indicate that god will only answer certain prayers, (indeed it states the opposite as I mentioned earlier), but that he will only answer prayers from certain people, (i.e ones that have the son in them). As long as they do he will answer any prayer.

There are many criterior for prayer. Heart condition, approaching the son, asking for that which is according to his will.

There are also many criterior in the scriptures for prayers he will not answer.
prayers of the unrighteous ones.
prayers of those who are not repentent
prayers that are not in accordance with his will.
prayers of individuals who are bloodguilty.

This is where the whole "imagine and create your own reality"

Which is exactly what the authors of the bible did...THEIR intepretation of God and nothing more.

Well thank you eyewitness news.

If that were true nova900 then 700 years of distance between authors would have had more effect than the harmony of scriptures that do glorify God and maintain a purpose consitently throughout.
It is a long book. It requires study and a willingness to be taught. But such is true with all things.

Sermens Notaro 10 30

"And god gave fruit to his children, then said go multiple.. they bred like the animals he had created, and when they finished all his lands were scortched like the desert."

jesus
the kingdom of Heaven is within you



proverbs
he that is slow to anger is better than the mighty. and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.



job
the covers of this book are too far apart.


i have lots more that i like,

peace.

Any prayers which are in His will, obviously, if two Christians are praying for opposite things, at least one will not be accomodated, understand?

That's not what scripture implies. It states quite clearly that anything they ask for will happen. There is, as I showed, the addition that as long as two or more god followers ask for the same thing it will be done.

From this are we to gather that no more than 1 person has ever asked for the end of disease or war? When it fails you invariably invoke the "yes, no, wait" argument, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ILZAaAMI), but that goes against the actual biblical text which states that anything will be given if you believe it to be so or two or more agree.

how can conflicting desired realities from two "imagine and creators" both be manifested

Here is where it always comes down to the theist negating the ability of his god. I thought he could do anything?

There are also many criterior in the scriptures for prayers he will not answer.
prayers of the unrighteous ones.
prayers of those who are not repentent
prayers that are not in accordance with his will.
prayers of individuals who are bloodguilty

You will find that aside from the one you quoted in error, all of them come under "not having the son in you". That is what is being spoken about when it talks of gods will to hear - he will only hear those that have gods son in them - which obviously does not include the blood guilty, unrighteous or unrepentant.

And exactly how did you come to that conclusion???posted thisthis quotes by far the best, jesus curse's a fig tree for being out of season, KJV mark 11,13: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14: And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
go figure!Saquist in turn posted that those two lines were symbolic. why only those two line out of a chapter of 33 lines, so my conclusion must be if those two are symbolic the the rest must be too.
hence why I posted this utter rubbish, so if those are symbolic, then the whole of Mark 11 must be, remember this is the chapter where he steals a colt, throws people out of the temple and tells you faith can move mountains, well he lied on that point, so in this one chapter he's a a thief, a lier, and a fool.
so it might be a good Idea to throw this chapter out, and say it's symbolic. so are you now going to say that, you can cherry picks scripture and call it what ever you wish, just so it does not contradict, your beliefs.


Rubbish. I think not. Faith is indeed powerful and can move the unmovable. ok! there a sun in the solar system with your so called faith could you move the sun just a degree or two further away so the earth cools a little then we would not have to worry about global warming..lol no seriously, could you move mount everest in the alps over to the andes, then you would get a hell of a lot of converts.Thus through you faith you have in God he moves the mountain. Yet our faith is tempered through knowledge of his will.oh so your lying, in one breath you say it can be done and cant be done, make up you mind hypocrite.

Geeser, you must be sensitive to the Spirit to understand.

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

-Luke 14:26

"At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."

So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory...When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back."

And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites.

But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children.

When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin."

-Judges 11:29-40

If that were true nova900 then 700 years of distance between authors would have had more effect than the harmony of scriptures that do glorify God and maintain a purpose consitently throughout.
It is a long book. It requires study and a willingness to be taught. But such is true with all things.

I won't deny I feel the bible does carry a spiritual message or truth. Just that this message is also seen reflected in many other religions as well. This is something many christians will not accept.
The problem is these messages of love and peace are often over-shadowed by the cultural influences and many times the ignorance or agenda of the people who created their particular religion.

Common sense should tell a person all the contradictions,often cruel and strange,bizarre,hatefull nature attributed to God are nothing more than the corruption of man' influence.
This is what I believe,the common bond that ties all religions and spirituality together.
The overall patterns of peoples' near death experiences also seems to confirm this.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research06.html

I'm new here so Hi everyone (yeah, I know, bleh). Although I'm a scientist, I do not possess the gall to assume that all things are within our understanding and fit within our neat and tidy little framework of understanding. Probably fitting that my first post be something written 2000 years ago. From the book, I like many quotes. Especially ones with intense imagery or poetic.

"I have seen Satan fall from the sky like lightning." - Luke 10

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a liar from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John 8

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." John 1

I'm Jon, BTW... TTYS hopefully

I'm new here so Hi everyone (yeah, I know, bleh). Although I'm a scientist, I do not possess the gall to assume that all things are within our understanding and fit within our neat and tidy little framework of understanding. Probably fitting that my first post be something written 2000 years ago. From the book, I like many quotes. Especially ones with intense imagery or poetic.

"I have seen Satan fall from the sky like lightning." - Luke 10

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a liar from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John 8

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." John 1

I'm Jon, BTW... TTYS hopefully

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M*W: Hi Jon, welcome to sciforums. What does "TTYS" stand for? I'm not sure I understand your reason for joining sciforums other than there are a lot of things you don't understand. If that's the case, then you have definitely come to the right place.

However, I get this sense that you came here to preach about your religious beliefs. Is that true?

Since you said there's things you don't understand, do you have any specific questions we could answer or at least lead you to where the answers might be? Is there any particular reason you would quote from the NT? As a scientist, surely you are aware that the bible is neither a scientific nor historical document nor is it considered reliable or accurate for the discussions herein.

Common sense should tell a person all the contradictions, often cruel and strange, bizarre, hatefull nature attributed to God are nothing more than the corruption of man' influence.
Do you mean it is Man who turned God into Devil?

"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her."

-Deuteronomy 22:28-29

"Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down."

-Samuel 12:11-14

ok! there a sun in the solar system with your so called faith could you move the sun just a degree or two further away so the earth cools a little then we would not have to worry about global warming..lol no seriously, could you move mount everest in the alps over to the andes, then you would get a hell of a lot of converts.oh so your lying, in one breath you say it can be done and cant be done, make up you mind hypocrite.

Ah...but a hypocrite would not be intrested in God's opinion, nor would he or she bother themselves with establishing precedents to understand bible context.

As we discussed before this is a matter of prayer. And prayer must be conducted with the hightest level of respect since it is the only form of direct communication to our God. Prayer thus must be inaccordance with his will. What is required to understand this is study to discover the trend that allow us to appreciate this as well as meekness. The williness to be taught and directed so larger and more important things maybe discovered.

Meek means guidable, its a Hebrew word having to do with a horse's bridle, to guide the horse.

So "the meek shall inherit the Earth" doesn't mean that the doormats will inherit the Earth, it means that those who respond to God's instructions will inherit the Earth.

Do you mean it is Man who turned God into Devil?

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M*W: Yes, it was man's creative idea to write about the good god/bad god.

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M*W: Hi Jon, welcome to sciforums. What does "TTYS" stand for? I'm not sure I understand your reason for joining sciforums other than there are a lot of things you don't understand. If that's the case, then you have definitely come to the right place.

However, I get this sense that you came here to preach about your religious beliefs. Is that true?

Since you said there's things you don't understand, do you have any specific questions we could answer or at least lead you to where the answers might be? Is there any particular reason you would quote from the NT? As a scientist, surely you are aware that the bible is neither a scientific nor historical document nor is it considered reliable or accurate for the discussions herein.After reading this, I have to say I don't feel very welcome. TTYS is short for "Talk to you soon". Wow. You don't just jump to conclusions do you? You fly to them. I don't have anything to preach but I do believe in the freeflow of ideas - the very essence of a "forum" correct? I thought it was a legit post in a thread title "Favorite Bible Quotes". I suppose I left my other favorite quote, "And Jesus said to them: And I say that nothing can exceed the speed of light in a vacuum unless engaged in some form of entanglement." - yes... that is my favorite quote I suppose.

Regarding the things I don't understand... well I do not look forward to someone such as yourself setting me straight. Of course, there are many things I, and indeed "we" don't understand (yes, that includes you too). I hope to discuss many of those very things. I don't look at the bible as a historical document nor do I descend to the notion that it contains any data that is scientific in nature. Perhaps inspirational is a good term. Right now, the dicussions "herein", doctor, are simply "Favorite Bible Quotes".

Did I mention gall???

Meek means guidable, its a Hebrew word having to do with a horse's bridle, to guide the horse.

So "the meek shall inherit the Earth" doesn't mean that the doormats will inherit the Earth, it means that those who respond to God's instructions will inherit the Earth.

Fascinating...I've always found the Hebrews lanuage approach quite litteral...Ideal for repeatition.

After reading this, I have to say I don't feel very welcome. TTYS is short for "Talk to you soon". Wow. You don't just jump to conclusions do you? You fly to them.

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M*W: Sorry if I made you feel "unwelcome." That was not my intention. I am, however, blunt to a fault. What is the point of dragging a point when you can make your point faster and with less carnage?

I don't have anything to preach but I do believe in the freeflow of ideas - the very essence of a "forum" correct? I thought it was a legit post in a thread title "Favorite Bible Quotes".

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M*W: True, this thread is about "favorite bible quotes," and it is a legit thread you replied to. Although I am opinionated, I am in no way part of the administration of this forum, so please consider what I said to you as frivolous banter.

I suppose I left my other favorite quote, "And Jesus said to them: And I say that nothing can exceed the speed of light in a vacuum unless engaged in some form of entanglement." - yes... that is my favorite quote I suppose.

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M*W: I suppose even as an atheist there are bible quotes that I like, considering that it is a work of allegorical literature.

Regarding the things I don't understand... well I do not look forward to someone such as yourself setting me straight. Of course, there are many things I, and indeed "we" don't understand (yes, that includes you too). I hope to discuss many of those very things. I don't look at the bible as a historical document nor do I descend to the notion that it contains any data that is scientific in nature. Perhaps inspirational is a good term. Right now, the dicussions "herein", doctor, are simply "Favorite Bible Quotes".

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M*W: Far be it that I should "set you straight!" You came here for a reason. What was that reason? Just remember who welcomed you here in the first place.

Did I mention gall???

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M*W: It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it. Did you think you were joining a forum of religious fundamentalists? If you did, then you may be surprised by the other comments you get. I was just trying to toughen you up for the kill. (Ha, ha).

But, back to the subject of this post... as an atheist, even I like certain phrases in the bible that stand out to me as honest and meaningful. One that readily comes to mind is "The End."

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M*W: Sorry if I made you feel "unwelcome." That was not my intention. I am, however, blunt to a fault. What is the point of dragging a point when you can make your point faster and with less carnage?

Why does there have to BE any carnage at all?

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M*W: True, this thread is about "favorite bible quotes," and it is a legit thread you replied to. Although I am opinionated, I am in no way part of the administration of this forum, so please consider what I said to you as frivolous banter.

I can accept that ;-)

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M*W: I suppose even as an atheist there are bible quotes that I like, considering that it is a work of allegorical literature.

Fiction or not, it's not to be totally disregarded. Being an atheist, you have your beliefs. If we are to set apart science from spirituality (physica from metaphysica) then one could easily say you are preaching atheism. At the very least, spirituality, or perhaps spiritism, is a part of our biology since we do not have any atheist cultures. The utter lack of atheistic societies prompts us to question whether or not we NEED to believe in something, however unrealistic. Jealously, for example, is not usually rational but exists nonetheless - even though we can postulate why jealousy occurs.

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M*W: Far be it that I should "set you straight!" You came here for a reason. What was that reason? Just remember who welcomed you here in the first place.

Yes! Thank you. I don't want to dive into the swimming pool only to find that the water is too cold!

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M*W: It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it. Did you think you were joining a forum of religious fundamentalists? If you did, then you may be surprised by the other comments you get. I was just trying to toughen you up for the kill. (Ha, ha).

Of course not. I am not a fundamentalist in any sense of the words. I posted the quotes I did because of their imagery and poeticism. Imagine the idea of seeing anything fall from the sky like lightning? Other than just electrons? Seems almost sci-fi to me.

But, back to the subject of this post... as an atheist, even I like certain phrases in the bible that stand out to me as honest and meaningful. One that readily comes to mind is "The End."

In jest, another is "Proclaiming to be wise, they became as fools." I don't paint myself into corners. Many creatures cannot establish differences in the wavelengths of light, only degrees of light and dark. Does this mean rainbows do not exist? For a person who cannot see color, to argue with a person who can as to whether or not one can exist or not, seems ridiculous.

In jest, another is "Proclaiming to be wise, they became as fools." I don't paint myself into corners. Many creatures cannot establish differences in the wavelengths of light, only degrees of light and dark. Does this mean rainbows do not exist? For a person who cannot see color, to argue with a person who can as to whether or not one can exist or not, seems ridiculous.

wow, 5 post's and he says what i could not in 2k+...good job...M*W???:D

#68...Bravo.:worship:-hiyo

wow, 5 post's and he says what i could not in 2k+...good job...M*W???:D

#68...Bravo.:worship:-hiyoLOL... thanks. Can I ask a question? (I guess I just did). Okay a second question... what is M*W? I saw that on another users reply and couldn't get my head around it. My username is H4rd2bme. Is it not showing up correctly? Don't mean to be off topic.

thank you again!

Many creatures cannot establish differences in the wavelengths of light, only degrees of light and dark. Does this mean rainbows do not exist?

Yeah but imagine what those creatures would talk about when they could see rainbows but couldn't understand why the occurred.

"Hey man, look at that... it must be magic".

These creatures would then establish churches and pray to non-existant things in space all because they couldn't understand what they were seeing.

Okay a second question... what is M*W? I saw that on another users reply and couldn't get my head around it. My username is H4rd2bme. Is it not showing up correctly? Don't mean to be off topic.

thank you again!

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M*W: "M*W" is an abbreviation for Medicine*Woman when she posts replies. Sure, it's a little diffent intro to her replies along with the 13 "*" which stand for the 13 original colonies and the lucky "13." Medicine*Woman dares to be different. Please don't try to wrap your head around her. Her favorite hobby is devouring christians. Yum, yum!

Maybe you ought to cut back.

Yeah but imagine what those creatures would talk about when they could see rainbows but couldn't understand why the occurred.

"Hey man, look at that... it must be magic".

These creatures would then establish churches and pray to non-existant things in space all because they couldn't understand what they were seeing.They probably would. Just like EVERY man/woman/culture has done since the beginning. But then I assume they would begin to question why the rainbow occurs. They might hypothesize and develop a few theories, test them, and hopefully come to a conclusion and then alls well that ends well. A few might remain and just think it's magic but the rest would know why they really occur. And so it goes from age to age.

Anyway... So why do you dislike man so much? Or perhaps better, the nature of man.

Your forefathers did the same thing. We all come from the same pool my friend. I imagine you'd do the same thing. If a ghost (or whatever) appeared before you, after you lost control of your bodily functions, would you cower in fear or would you grab a petri dish and say "Hold still, I'd like to get a sample for my analysis."

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M*W: "M*W" is an abbreviation for Medicine*Woman when she posts replies. Sure, it's a little diffent intro to her replies along with the 13 "*" which stand for the 13 original colonies and the lucky "13." Medicine*Woman dares to be different. Please don't try to wrap your head around her. Her favorite hobby is devouring christians. Yum, yum!Haha! Okay then! You go girl! People still say that right??

Anyway... So why do you dislike man so much? Or perhaps better, the nature of man.

Oh, nowhere in that did I intend to imply that I dislike man. I was just explaining what is quite apparent and unsurprising of man to do, (by using his creature analogy).

I see these things constantly, but you could name almost anything and if the witness cannot explain it it's gods, or ghosts, or ufo's, (the alien kind), or mermaids etc etc and so on.

Given a choice in the matter I would like to see an end of it. There's people crossing their fingers, throwing salt over their shoulers, saying "bless you" when you sneeze even though the bubonic plague is pretty much long gone, (yes there are still some indivdual cases). Some guys I know even salute magpies and say "good morning Mr Magpie, how's your wife and kids?" I'm like.. "wtf?", they're like "It's bad luck to not salute a magpie", and I'm like "dude, it's a bird ffs, it poops, eats worms and grabs the odd shiny thing". Or when they say "touch wood/knock on wood" and I have to inform them of it's leprechaun origins and point out the idiocy of such a thing.

But that is man. That is what we are and what we have been since time immemorial. These people adamantly believe it to be true, and that's fine for them - but when you actually sit back and look it at it's so bloody stupid I can only laugh.

If a ghost (or whatever) appeared before you, after you lost control of your bodily functions, would you cower in fear or would you grab a petri dish and say "Hold still, I'd like to get a sample for my analysis."

Depends whether it said "boo" or not first. To be honest I would more likely be the latter from what I know of myself, but this is one of those things I suppose where you have to go through it to know the answer.