From the CNN page:
NEW YORK (AP) -- Are Big Macs hazardous to children's health?

Lawyers have filed a class-action lawsuit against McDonald's on behalf of New York children who have suffered health problems, including diabetes, high blood pressure, and obesity.

In federal court in Manhattan on Wednesday, a lawyer alleged that the fast-food chain has created a national epidemic of obese children. Samuel Hirsch argued that the high fat, sugar and cholesterol content of McDonald's food is "a very insipid, toxic kind of thing" when ingested regularly by young kids.

The plaintiffs include a Bronx teen who ate every meal at McDonald's for three years while living in a homeless shelter. Another is a 13-year-old boy from Staten Island who says he ate at McDonald's food three to four times a week and is now 5-foot-4 and 278 pounds.
This kind of thing makes me really wonder about the American legal system…

Jeez, thats madness, serves them right for eating McDonalds "beef" burgers!!

har har.
is there not a thing about that mcdonalds and burgerking etc have to advertise that their food is unhealthy in their adverts or something?

I'm starting to think that it might be just as easy to switch from fat food to healthy food. It's in americas culture to be junky, and it has been for a few decades now. It needs to change, because people are dying. We need a massive reform.

but 1000 calorie burgers are just soooo good....

LOL, like mcdonalds forced them to go into their 'restaurant' and partake of their fatty foods!

There was also a 'large' handful that wanted to sue a couple of fast food chains, peticularly McD's becuase their commercials were too tempting and they were "unable to control themselves" when they saw them, and it forced them to eat and become obese.

OOOOOooooooohhhhhh as a lawyer i wouldv'e had fun with that.

First, anyone witha brain could've got that taken care of. but then.. oh no.. dont stop there.. i would whip up a PPO on every BigMAc in the courtroom.. because, as a McDonalds owner of course, i would definately not want these people in my restaurant. I mean, if you can't hold back on a simple tv commercial.. what are you going to do when the other senses kick in, and your standing in line, and you see the little kid with the french fries...are you gonna rip them out of her hand? steal her happy meal? All becuase you can't control yourself? not in my restuarant!

Infact, this loss of self control could be harmful to society in general. Perhaps the best thing for you would be a stricter diet in a more "confined and understanding environment" would be the best way to address this saddening issue.... :P

I'm not racist, I'm not often religously loud, and thank god, im not a feminist, but i hate more than anything, fat lazy people. No, I dont mean the big kid in class who is just bigger than us, or chubby girl on the cheer team. Im talking about The fat, spandex-devoted, "its not my fault im fat" slobs, that walk around , shoving their way to the dessert isle in meijer, order 14 cupcakes and a diet coke, and expect that we SYMPATHIZE because they have no respect for themselves, no discipline in their life, and no respect for the rest of us that have to stare at their huffing, panting, fat ass. :mad:

EDIT: and on another note, i think when peeople get disturbingly overweight (without serious medical condition), they should be fined for taking up too much space in our already overpopulated world... and ofcourse, they pentalty for not paying htis fine would be an imprisonment with a diet plan, and once you loose a certain amount (ina healthy way ofcourse) you can be released back into society. Sure, this may cause more frequent eating disorders, but well, its their own damn fault, atleast when they die that way, it wont take a forklift to act as pallbearer. :D

Im talking about The fat, spandex-devoted, "its not my fault im fat" slobs, that walk around , shoving their way to the dessert isle in meijer, order 14 cupcakes and a diet coke, and expect that we SYMPATHIZE because they have no respect for themselves, no discipline in their life, and no respect for the rest of us that have to stare at their huffing, panting, fat ass.
eating disorder, o.k, not everyone thats fat has em but i think maybe you should know what your talking about before you shoot your mouth off. O.k, everyone will take it im fat cause im perhaps speaking up but im not, i just dont like people getting judged by people that have no idea what they are talking about.

Look at it from the other perspective, you think that people that starve themselfs so that they are all skin and bone and they say "its not my fault im underweight" are all anarexic (sp) ? no, not all of them, they see some celeb on tv and think cool i want to look unnaturally thin. Do you think they have as much respect for themselves as fat beasts? or do you think they have more respect for themselves?

I think the answer you are looking for is: happy-medium.

There was also a 'large' handful that wanted to sue a couple of fast food chains, peticularly McD's becuase their commercials were too tempting and they were "unable to control themselves" when they saw them, and it forced them to eat and become obese.
oh, and i do think this is bullshit, they are just looking for easy money. Its the same idea as tobacco advertising, people are going to sue tobacco industry because they smoked for 40 years and ended up having cancer. Its daft. Americanized logic: If i can sue somebody to get money, i will!

well it is somewhat like the contraversy of holding cigarette makers responsible for the smokers health iusses,

wait if u think about i really is just like the cigarette people problems

If the courts would sue the cigarette guys then y wouldnt they do it for that fat guys....they might acually win

i forgot to mention matabilsm (sp:eek:) has got to do with weight too, for example: someone might eat 3whopper meals and put on weight another person could eat the same and not. Its not a black and white picture.

yeh, basically, in america you can almost sue anyone and at least get a settlement. I think the fats will get some money and they will introduce somesort of legislation to do with ads.

first of all Captain, im not sure what it was you were trying to inform me on that i didn't know and post.

Second, i didn't say that you had to be bone thin. Thats unhealthy. Im talking 100+ OVERWEIGHT. not just over a hundred pounds! What i also said was that it would be better for them to be Anorxeic than morbidly obese.

and third, i also said without medical condition. if someone has some sort of thyroid problem in which they are just overight, no matter what they do or eat, well then shit, they're gonna be overwieght. The captain of my dance team my sophmore year was overweight. But she wasn't LAZY. she worked her ass off, and she was just as good of a dancer as the ret of us, and actually much better. But she was just gnetically chubby. the difereance is, she took care of herself .

I also have a 'friend' who doesn't work, never leaves the couch, and has broken not one, not two but THREE of my camping chairs simply by sitting in him. He seldom bathes, he doesn't do laundy, he just lays around shoving potatoe chips in his mouth. Needless to say, this is the type that should be 'taken care of'.

And just to clear things up, im am not a stick person either. but i am not lazy.

I hope that helped you understand the poitn that i was trying to get across. sorry if it was fuzzy the first time.

forgot to mention matabilsm (sp:eek has got to do with weight too, for example: someone might eat 3whopper meals and put on weight another person could eat the same and not. Its not a black and white picture.

captain, im an 18yr old female dancer who has rollercoasted between a size 8 inlittle girls to a 15 in womens and back again all throught my highschool career. I know what metabolism is and i know how weight comes on and off.

You can raise your metabolism with EXCERCISE. oh heaven forbid you get a spot any farther from the door of the supermarket than 3 spaces, and you'll drive around for 15 minutes before you hink about parking in the back. But my god, our bodies are made to mooooooooove.

Please do not be offended by the way i talk about this subject captain, none of my anger is aimed at you. Just them.

o.k.:)

wait if u think about i really is just like the cigarette people problems a Big N tastey doesn't cuase cancer, nor does the oder let off when its cooked (lit). Im not sure if "ciggareete people" were the consumers or the manufacturers, but i dont think that a consumer should be alble to do a damn thing about it. It is engraved in our minds since dare class in 5th grade that smoking is bad for us. Some choose to ignore those warnings. I did for 9 years. and it wasn't until a cancer scare a couple months ago that i quit. But that doesnt make the tobbacco compnay at fault if i get sick. Thats like holding a casino at fault if you loose all of your money. you CHOSE to do it. There is a warning label on the package in plain veiw.. (i wonder if this will lead to a "This item may cause excessive weight gain" label on McD's products:p) And if you were talking about nonsmokers being invaded by those who do smoke, I dont think they should get anything either. There are many many smoke free restaurants clubs etc they could attend. And if they chose to attend one that does admit smokers, that is their own problem to deal with. Im allergic to some perfumes, that doesn't mean that i should go and sue someone becuase they caused my allergies to act up on a big date. Especially in America, we loooove to blame our problems on other people (including me of ofcourse) and sometimes it gets pushed waaaayyyy to far....

most the cigarette court cases are to do with older people. Back in the day, the cigarette companies didn't inform people of the risks of smoking. So now that their ill, they are sueing the companies for lack of warning.

You gotta be pretty stupid to breath in smoke regulary and think that it wont harm you.

Nightfall, I disagree with you on non smokers. I used to smoke and yes I did give other people my smoke. But now I don't smoke I have better appreciation for other people's health. It's not nice breathing in other peoples smoke. You cough, your eye's sting and your clothes stink. I'm fine with people smoking just not when non smokers get the smoke.

Fine, kill yourselves, but not other's.

[update: Stopped smoking since last week on Monday]

But what would be REALLY good would be if these law suits started working(They just keep makein' 'em and I just keep eatin' 'em, what am I to do?!), and fast food chains went out of bussiness, and then the fat people started bitching about the lack of burgers in the world. It'd be tragic, really, worthy of shakespear himself.

Oh, and don't take this as some sort of failing of the American legal system, just because we can attempt to sue anyone for just about anything doesn't mean we'll win.

that lawsuit is ludicrous! don't even get me started on it. i read about it in one of the national weekly magazines last night; a picture of one of the people suing was included .. whoa....that's a LOT of whoppers !!!

Lol, imagine all the post-christians suing the church for post-traumatic stress dissorder!:D

You know, if these fat people get as settlement, they probably spent the money at mcdonalds instead of bying a stairclimber.

The same lame "too tempting" excuse as some rapists say that the girl was wearing too short skirt and was asking for it...

Sheesh, idealists idealists. Fat people sueing Mc has nothing to do with right or wrong. It's that they see a means of getting money, moving the blame for their obesity to someone else, getting vindictive pleasure that temporarily rmoves guilt from being fat, all in one swift (well, legally speaking) stroke towards fast food chains.

:D Ha ha, that is funny about the rapist.

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In a way, those seriously over weight people are starting to be penalized. Airlines have taken the step that if you occupy 2 seat spaces that you will be charged for that. It is the first "recognition" of weight problems being a problem for others than themselves.

If you occupy two spaces then you'd better pay for two friggin spaces. What're they complaining about? Either that or go on a stupid diet that WORKS.

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There is no god, afterlife or divine love. There is only Entropy, the mother from which we were all born. She tugs our souls with the beautiful, maternal love of chaos. Why do you keep Her waiting?

teeheee.. in case of emergenc would you also need two parachutes.... and are you allowed more carry-ons?

Now that's something I never thought of. But if you did pay for two seats you deserve two people's worth of carryons. And sent baggage as well.

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-central philosophy of Zero, Sage of Chaos

that lawsuit is ludicrous! don't even get me started on it. i read about it in one of the national weekly magazines last night; a picture of one of the people suing was included .. whoa....that's a LOT of whoppers !!!

they will soon demand that there should be written harmful for health on Stinger rockets


what idiot a person has to be not to understand how harmful fast food is

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-central philosophy of Zero, Sage of Chaos

Hey, I (mr. underweight) could sue McDonalds for making me lose my appetite! Good idea, no?

need I bring up a related issue about the soda tax because "fat people simply cant control soda intake" thats also absurd.

night fall: dont be so sure a "big n barfy " dosn't cause cancer

I say people are free to live their own lives and suffer the consequences of their actions. If you get overweight its up to you to control it. some people have weight problems, others mental problems. point is, everyone has problems of one sort or another and that just life, you gotta deal with it. what would life be without problems?

I would like to thank McDonalds ( and again mention YES they do put the "icky" in mickey D's ) for showing me how disgusting all fast food is. Thanks Ron!

on a last note I would like to add that the crew there doubles on inspection days.........

need I bring up a related issue about the soda tax because "fat people simply cant control soda
intake" thats also absurd.
ohh!!oh!! that brings up something else... how many times have you heard this?
"Hi, id like, the big mac meal, and.. make that the large size... and.. two of those.. apple pies.. hmm.. annnnndd... lets see.. add on one of those chicken sandwhiches too.. oh, and a diet coke."

?!?!!?! i doubt that's really gonna do ya alot of good lady.... :rolleyes:

ha ha . I laugh at that as well. The ONLY reason I would even drink a soda is:

1) sugar
2)caffeine
3)no other choice

soda is disgusting! diet soda consists of nothing more than water, possibly caffeine and other than that toxins for your body to remove

oh and some carbonation

hands On Radioactive Waves a good latvian beer
cheers!

I'm always searching for new beer to try. could you suggest some?

sorry- can't really help- I drink only the local ones

but if you ever are in Latvia

Aldaris* Pilzenes beer is good and also
Lacplesa Tumsais is a good choice


*(it's the company that makes it)

I think the closest I've been is Germany... which is a lot closer than California.

I didn't even like beer until the last time I went there, 8 years ago....

you didn't know beer before imho
American ones is something AWFUL
I drank it once at a 4th July party which was organised by the American embassy over here

it was like a shapoo!!! http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/wuerg005.gif

let's have a toast for all the good (and real) beers out there http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/ernaehrung/ernaehrung004.gif


p.s. did you know that the german beers imported to the usa are actually very different and tasteless, because they have to meet official american food standarts :rolleyes:

ya, I don't even reaLLY consider imports "beer". The typical bar in Germany had a large blackboard with the current brews. I do think beer is getting better here because of the increased interest of microbrewing

I read something about a man who "spilled" coffee from McDonalds on himself in France. They threw the case out in five minutes.

I cant find the article, but why cant our legal system be more reasonable? (thats rhetorical)

this is all to funny!!!!!Im gonna sue the ice cream makers for selling chocolate fudge and carmel toppings.HAHAHAHAHA unreal what people will do for a buck!!!!

OK does everybody only see the facts that people are lazy and they don't want to work to earn a buck, but everybody wants free $, but hey who doesn't right??? Well, people are trying to sue mcdnlds because they are fat and they are trying to use them as their scapegoat well, maybe these people are a little hypocritical because they want to sue somebody for something they enjoy. For example: I go to the gym everyday doesn't matter whats going on i go to the gym its not cause im a health fanatic but i like going its something i do everyday just for me. Obese people enjoy food, food for them is like the gym for me. I if i feel like spending an extra 10 mintues on the treadmill i dont think about how sore my legs could be in the morning, as in the same light they don't think about how many pounds that Big Mac Meal Super Sized w/ diet Coke is going to put on them. I think fat people are disgusting and i know its shallow of me but if im out somewhere eating and i see a 300+ person shoving food ood down their throats like there is no tommorow then i cant eat anything because it is so gross. On the other hand Americans would starve if it werent for restaraunts. It's not just the obese disgusting people that eat out for evreytime they eat cause im guilty of the same thing. Another thing is I'm a manager at a Mcdonalds so if it weren't for these "people" then my car would get repossed and i would be living on the streets, but also by spending everyday at mcdonalds I do see more people walk through those doors than the obese ones.

besides it was the same deal w/ the lady sueing mcdonalds for spilling coffee on her self, she won now thats why everymcdnlds cup says: CAUTION HOT!!! Who in the world that drinks coffee and doesn't know that it is hot. Oh my goodness I just think this all the consequneces of people raising stupid children, come on coffee is hot, anything cooked in 45 seconds and has Mayo, catsup, and cheese all in one bite is going to make you FAT!!! For goodness gracious people, I hope some FAT person is able to make it up off the couch and to their computer and stumble across this post so they see just how lazy, stupid, and irrational that they truly are. Oh, I understand people have health problems and there isn't anything you can do about you weight and i dont hate people cause they are fat as a matter of fact i dont hate anybody, I hate the fact that people are so undetermined that they will allow themselves to be that unhealthy and take serious risks that may affect them forever, with little or no effort to change it. My own sister is over weight and i beg her all the time to start working out w/ me every morning, because I love her and i dont want to loose her to obesity before its her time to go. I'm hard on all people that are purposfully harming their health...smokers, drug addicts, anybody that does harmful things to themselves knowlingly for goodness sakes do somethig about it today while you can there is no day like today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sweetieprincessk... welcome to SciForums!
Please keep your arms and legs inside the
cart at all times and enjoy the ride!Originally posted by sweetieprincessk
I think fat people are disgusting and i know its shallow of me...Yes, it is. Very....Americans would starve if it werent for restaraunts.Perhaps you could expand on why you think that is true?I'm a manager at a Mcdonalds so if it weren't for these "people" then my car would get repossed and i would be living on the streets...You could not possibly find work elsewhere?

:m: Peace.

people would starve if there werent restaurants, because people are much more busy these days than they were in the past when it was a treat to go out to eat. Face it times have changed in most homes there isn't somebody waiting at home to cook you dinner. People rely on others. It's easier to go out to eat or grab something on the way home then it is go home after a long hard day at work and think of something to cook and to cook it and then clean up all the mess afterwards. Im not saying there arent those people that dont still cook at home, and i do still sometimes, but if i had to cook everything i ate then OMG I wouldn't eat the healty amount of food that a person should consume, i simply dont have time to plan out a meal, cook it, and then clean up afterwards. I didnt mean everybody i just meant most americans would starve.


I could find a job somewheres else and i will oneday, but McDonalds isn't a bad job, they have decent pay, vacation, insurance, and yes it would be hard to find a job that i get the same pay (which I need) and all the benifits that come with the job!!

Originally posted by sweetieprincessk
besides it was the same deal w/ the lady sueing mcdonalds for spilling coffee on her self, she won now thats why everymcdnlds cup says: CAUTION HOT!!! Who in the world that drinks coffee and doesn't know that it is hot. Oh my goodness I just think this all the consequneces of people raising stupid children, come on coffee is hot... There are the facts about this infamous case that were barely mentioned in the press:
For years, McDonald's had known they had a problem with the way they make their coffee - that their coffee was served much hotter (at least 20 degrees more so) than at other restaurants.
McDonald's knew its coffee sometimes caused serious injuries - more than 700 incidents of scalding coffee burns in the past decade have been settled by the Corporation - and yet they never so much as consulted a burn expert regarding the issue.
The woman involved in this infamous case suffered very serious injuries - third degree burns on her groin, thighs and buttocks that required skin grafts and a seven-day hospital stay.
The woman, an 81-year old former department store clerk who had never before filed suit against anyone, said she wouldn't have brought the lawsuit against McDonald's had the Corporation not dismissed her request for compensation for medical bills.
A McDonald's quality assurance manager testified in the case that the Corporation was aware of the risk of serving dangerously hot coffee and had no plans to either turn down the heat or to post warning about the possibility of severe burns, even though most customers wouldn't think it was possible.
After careful deliberation, the jury found McDonald's was liable because the facts were overwhelmingly against the company. When it came to the punitive damages, the jury found that McDonald's had engaged in willful, reckless, malicious, or wanton conduct, and rendered a punitive damage award of 2.7 million dollars. (The equivalent of just two days of coffee sales, McDonalds Corporation generates revenues in excess of 1.3 million dollars daily from the sale of its coffee, selling 1 billion cups each year.)
On appeal, a judge lowered the award to $480,000, a fact not widely publicized in the media.
A report in Liability Week, September 29, 1997, indicated that Kathleen Gilliam, 73, suffered first degree burns when a cup of coffee spilled onto her lap. Reports also indicate that McDonald's consistently keeps its coffee at 185 degrees, still approximately 20 degrees hotter than at other restaurants. Third degree burns occur at this temperature in just two to seven seconds, requiring skin grafting, debridement and whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and disability to the victims for many months, and in some cases, years.The facts are from case transcripts reported in Legal News and Views, Ohio Academy of Trial Lawyers.

:m: Peace.

Originally posted by sweetieprincessk
people would starve if there werent restaurants, because people are much more busy these days... there isn't somebody waiting at home to cook you dinner. ...if i had to cook everything i ate then OMG I wouldn't eat the healty amount of food that a person should consume... most americans would starve.I think most people are more resourceful than that. If there were no restaurants, they would be forced to do all of things you mention above. No one would starve simply if there was no hamburger jockey waiting to serve them. ;)

:m: Peace.

my point wasnt about the suit over the coffee i already know the facts about that i was just saying people know coffee is hot and they know fast food makes them fat

Agreed, but you tried to equate the two legal issues when they are quite different. I just want to seperate them for those who did not have all of the information.

:m: Peace.

Originally posted by joegurl13
but 1000 calorie burgers are just soooo good....
Well go jogging afterwards or something!! Or just eat them in moderation. McD's is worldwide, and yet the whole world isn't obese. ;)

The American Nation never ceases to amaze me. I genuinely do not believe half of the things I hear about it. Though, they did elect George Bush...

a phrase an American dream comes to mind, Siddhartha
though it should sound an American nightmare ;)

The larger problem here is class-action lawsuits. I now get several claims each year in the mail. These are thick packets that say essentially “We at Dewey Cheatem & Howe are suing XYZ Corp. because some people were awoken from their sleep when some garbage cans fell over at XYZ’s factory on or about 3am on Oct. 15 and it caused them severe emotional distress. Please fill out these forms in quadruplicate proving that you own property within 10 miles of the factory. We’ll send you a check when the company settles.”

If I was dumb enough to fill out the forms, I could expect a check for about ten cents in a few years. The lawyer pockets a fortune. This is what the McD’s fat-people suit is really about. A lawyer in Seattle made a cool $3 mil within one month of filing a suit against McD’s for using beef flavoring in their French fries without warning the vegetarians. Flush with that victory he’s now methodically going after every other food chain for the same. I’m surprised he doesn’t have more competition.

Did you know that one of the law firms involved in the states vs. tobacco suit was paid a fee of over $2 billion? And that the states’ share of the settlement now pays for improving tobacco farm production? What a wacky country.

goofy a qestion for you

you said that it was kept at 180 are you talking C or F?

because i was under the impression that its IMPOSSABLE to keep water above 100C without it totally evaporating when its at standed air pressure

Fahrenheit.

so what is it in NORMAL measure?:p (im SOO stoned now:p)

That is normal, you fuzzy little foreigner! :D

[B]I think most people are more resourceful than that. If there were no restaurants, they would be forced to do all of things you mention above. No one would starve simply if there was no hamburger jockey waiting to serve them.

ok, so maybe i didnt give people enough credit, I should have stated more clearly that people wouldn't literally starve... it would just be a huge in convience to a lot of people. Also, if there weren't any fast food chains that would put millions out of work, so there would not be enough of work for all those people to go to so in an early statement you asked if i could not possibly find a different job, so it could be quite possible for me or others not to find jobs. On the other hand if there werent any fast food chains then it could possibly make a significant change in America because we do have more over weight people in our country than any other country. I'm not only including people that 100+ over weight im including those just a few pounds over weight.

Originally posted by joegurl13
but 1000 calorie burgers are just soooo good....

where are you eating a 1000 calorie burger at???

MCDONALDS

regular hamburger... 250 calories
cheeseburger... 280 calories
quarter pounder w/ cheese... 370 calories
big mac... 300 calories

sorry i dont have the calories on the newer snadwiches like the big and tasty, but i can get them if anybody needs to know. But, my point is that isn't anywhere near 1000 calories for 1 burger. Actually, you could eat all 4 of those burgers and it would only be 1200 calories. ;)

A Wendy's triple weighs in at 810 calories.

i didnt say that there werent burgers close to 1000 calories, shit i dont know anything about other fast food places besides mcdonalds, the only reason i know about mcdonalds is because im a manager there. im not the big calorie count or anything like that!!! :)

What? You're not the Princess of Calories? The McDonald's basic burger is a tasty morsel. Glad to know it's relativity healthy.

Originally posted by zanket
What? You're not the Princess of Calories? The McDonald's basic burger is a tasty morsel. Glad to know it's relativity healthy.

i didn't exactly say that it was healthy, i just said that it didnt have a 1000 calories. That doesn't include all the fat grams and if it werent for all the grease that were in the burgers then it would be reasonably healthy!

Really i dont i see the biggy in why everybody is picking out McDonalds to sue, besides the fact that it is the biggest fast food resturant chain that there is w/ the most $$ and that's what it is really all about anyway. Burger King, Wendy's, Sonic, Hardees, Bun Makers, and Rallys(just to name a few) have just as many calories in there food as McDonalds if not more. Hey i have an idea why dont we tell the obese people in America to sue all restaurants w/ all you can eat buffets because im sure they eat more at places like that then they do at a fast food joint. Actually, everyone has a problem w/ over eating at buffet style restaurants. so heres an idea anyone wanting to make a quick $ sue a buffet style restaraunt such as Ryan's.:) :)

NEW YORK (CNN) - A lawsuit alleging food from McDonald's restaurants is responsible for making people obese got thrown out by a federal judge Wednesday.http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/22/news/companies/mcdonalds/index.htm