http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdiw1u_ufo-squadron-over-oakland-californi_tech

Pretty interesting video as the camera holder (an IR camera at that!) gives us 1)a view of what a normal plane looks like and 2)what a satellite looks like...

So someone explain that V shape formation if you would...

Birds. You can even see them flapping.

It looked like a formation of small fighter jets to me. It sure wasn't a "spaceship".

Can't be birds, they don't ever fly in a V format...oh wait.

Well, how would birds show up that brightly on a IR camera, it's not like they're warm or...

Okay, birds.

Birds.

Notice how the guy changes his commentary 'on the fly' (pun intended). He initially says 'a spacecraft' but then the birds adjust their position somewhat, being independent, and next he's saying 'squadron of spacecraft' , and I hate to be picky, but in aviation, a 'squadron' implies at least 12 aircraft. Fewer aircraft are referred to as a 'flight'.

But anyway, it was birds. Birds do fly at night, if this guy knew more about nature, he'd be able to discern the mundane, from his fantasies.

hmmm. . .yeah, I see where you're going with this. . . but I have to agree. Why would UFO's fly in formation? That's doesn't make sense, does it?

Can't be birds, they don't ever fly in a V format...oh wait.

Well, how would birds show up that brightly on a IR camera, it's not like they're warm or...

Okay, birds.

i didnt watch the video yet but many birds do fly in v formation.

edit:whoops...i got it now.:D

hmmm. . .yeah, I see where you're going with this. . . but I have to agree. Why would UFO's fly in formation? That's doesn't make sense, does it?

V for victory! :bugeye:

True, many birds do fly in V formation...No biggie..

But, if you can show me birds flying in a missing man formation, I'll be impressed.:eek:

True, many birds do fly in V formation...No biggie..

But, if you can show me birds flying in a missing man formation, I'll be impressed.:eek:

lol...not birds. just watched the video.:D

To me it seems pretty obvious that they are birds. Why do you think otherwise, John?

To me it seems pretty obvious that they are birds. Why do you think otherwise, John?

I just looked it up and geese fly at night and in a v-formation. although they look too large, taking distance into account because they are very far up. Too bright of a heat signature. Could be jets.

Do birds fly that high? Not that i am aware of.

How far up do you think they are, how bright do you think the heat signature be, and why?
Hint: you could use the jet, satellite, and stars as references.

Its Lucky #7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDHTJGVWgG4

There have been UFOs because they fly and we can not identify them. :D

True, many birds do fly in V formation...No biggie..

But, if you can show me birds flying in a missing man formation, I'll be impressed.:eek:

Are you saying that's what you see in this vid?

'cos I see a V viewed from the side, so one branch looks shorter,... it's just a matter of perspective.

In the SloMo, you can see the objects undulating, like they are flapping wings. So maybe, just maybe, they are birds.

Birds flying over an Airport (considering how low the Aeroplane is.) I doubt any self respecting group of ufo's would fly through a restricted airspace, at least without calling the calling tower.

Notice how slow they were moving. They seemed to be going slow compared to the plane that flew by as well. There is no way an advanced alien spacecraft would just be cruising around that damn slow over an airport. ROFL, come on really.

Birds? That could have been anything: ice crystals on the lens, sky divers in formation, weather balloons, etc. What makes you so certain it was birds?

They look like they're shaped like birds, they're in a flock-like formation, they're warm, and they change shape in a way that is consistent with flapping.
If you hear hoofbeats, don't expect zebras.

Not ice crystals on the lens. They don't move with the camera.
Not weather balloons. They're in a cluster, are the wrong shape, and are constantly changing shape.
I can't rule out skydivers in formation, but they seem to be the wrong shape, too close together (if chutes are open), and moving too fast horizontally (if chutes closed). Plus it's at night, which I thought would be kind of unusual for a skydiver formation.