View Full Version : Evidence that Homosexuality is not Chosen


Lord Hillyer
11-15-07, 10:35 AM
a study that suggests (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/20/7356) a very nuanced but biological difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

spuriousmonkey
11-15-07, 10:52 AM
PNAS...good journal.

Cyperium
11-15-07, 12:14 PM
a study that suggests (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/20/7356) a very nuanced but biological difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals.That's not evidence that homosexuality isn't chosen, so why did you phrase it that way in the title of the thread?

Communist Hamster
11-15-07, 12:35 PM
In contrast to heterosexual men, and in congruence with heterosexual women, homosexual men displayed hypothalamic activation in response to AND
I did not read the entire paper, but that seems to suggest that homosexual men have a different brain structure (in the region studied) to heterosexual men.

I wonder if a similar congruency exists between homosexual women and heterosexual men?

tablariddim
11-15-07, 12:38 PM
What does it say about bi-sexuals, or lesbians?

Till Eulenspiegel
11-15-07, 01:01 PM
I can't imagine anyone CHOOSING to be homosexual. Why on earth, given a choice, would anyone choose to be the recipient of aspersions, snide comments, dirty looks, beatings and even possible killing because of a sexual preference.

If homosexuals were treated as equals in the world I might think that it was merely a life style preference but given the way they are treated by far too many non-homosexuals I simply cannot seriously entertain the idea that they simply chose to be gay.

Reiku
11-15-07, 03:02 PM
They actually new this by theory. American scientists fie years ago found intrinsic differences between hetro sheeps brains and gay sheeps brains. They have just linked the two together, but its a revolutionary discovery i have to admit.

This must also mean in a less savory manner that I TOO must have a deformed brain.

visceral_instinct
11-15-07, 03:17 PM
I can't imagine anyone CHOOSING to be homosexual. Why on earth, given a choice, would anyone choose to be the recipient of aspersions, snide comments, dirty looks, beatings and even possible killing because of a sexual preference.

If homosexuals were treated as equals in the world I might think that it was merely a life style preference but given the way they are treated by far too many non-homosexuals I simply cannot seriously entertain the idea that they simply chose to be gay.

^^^I completely agree.

Communist Hamster
11-15-07, 03:45 PM
What does it say about bi-sexuals, or lesbians?
The study involved 12 homosexual (kinsey scale 6) men, 12 heterosexual men, and 12 heterosexual women (kinsey scale 0).

Presumably lesbians are expensive and they ran out of funding.

Reiku
11-15-07, 03:49 PM
Bisexuals, i would imagine from logic, (in their neural structure), the deformation is active but isn't stopping the hetrosexual transmissions... so both are functional. Gay and straight.

Grantywanty
11-16-07, 03:11 AM
I would think that the occurance of homosexuality in a variety of other animals species offers support to the idea that it is not chosen - or at least always chosen.

Grantywanty
11-16-07, 03:14 AM
Oh, yes. Hermaphrodites have little option when it comes to avoiding homosexuality except celibacy.

greenberg
11-16-07, 04:05 AM
They actually new this by theory. American scientists fie years ago found intrinsic differences between hetro sheeps brains and gay sheeps brains. They have just linked the two together, but its a revolutionary discovery i have to admit.

I watched a BBC documentary on this a few years back. Apparently, they've been studying sheep for a long time already, due to economical considerations because homosexual sheep males economically weren't worth keeping.

draqon
11-16-07, 04:08 AM
4,16-androstadien-3-one is the culprit for gayness

Reiku
11-16-07, 08:49 AM
In short, to locate sexuality to the brain is an incomplete factor. It is relevant, but incomplete. There should also be:

1. Conditional evolution, which is true to some respects that in some very rare conditions, those subjected to homosexual acts against their will have psychological influences on how they respect sex.

2. Totally down to genetics, because in the end, it was the same genetics that made their brains as such.

Orleander
11-16-07, 08:52 AM
I can't imagine anyone CHOOSING to be homosexual. Why on earth, given a choice, would anyone choose to be the recipient of aspersions, snide comments, dirty looks, beatings and even possible killing because of a sexual preference.

If homosexuals were treated as equals in the world I might think that it was merely a life style preference but given the way they are treated by far too many non-homosexuals I simply cannot seriously entertain the idea that they simply chose to be gay.

agree. But I have a christian friend who says they 'do it for the attention'. :rolleyes:

Reiku
11-16-07, 08:54 AM
Hey orleander... hows you doing?

Reiku
11-16-07, 08:55 AM
By the way, homo's do not do anything for attention, unless they are trying to impress.

Orleander
11-16-07, 08:55 AM
Hey orleander... hows you doing?

I'm doin. :)

Reiku
11-16-07, 08:55 AM
Just like anyone i suppose.

Nikelodeon
11-16-07, 08:56 AM
Who are you doin.

Orleander
11-16-07, 08:58 AM
By the way, homo's do not do anything for attention, unless they are trying to impress.

But if a person thinks its chosen (and not god given) then they have to think of a reason why they would choose such a life style. What else is there but the fact that they want the attention? Mental illness?

Reiku
11-16-07, 09:04 AM
It is God given. God is not biast. I should know.

greenberg
11-16-07, 09:07 AM
But if a person thinks its chosen (and not god given) then they have to think of a reason why they would choose such a life style. What else is there but the fact that they want the attention? Mental illness?

I think a lot of the hassle around homosexuality is due to the very commonly held position that the only reason for two people to have a close relationship is to have children, or at least that a traditional family situation is the norm even if children aren't there.

It seems we're not so used to thinking that two (or more) people would seek to have a close relationship and to live together simply because they love each other, regardless of their biological sex.

Baron Max
11-16-07, 11:22 AM
I think a lot of the hassle around homosexuality is due to the very commonly held position that the only reason for two people to have a close relationship is to have children, or at least that a traditional family situation is the norm even if children aren't there.

No, I think it's 'cause most people think homosexual sex is ....GROSS!

It seems we're not so used to thinking that two (or more) people would seek to have a close relationship and to live together simply because they love each other, regardless of their biological sex.

No, I think it's quite well accepted for a man and woman to marry and not have children. But not homosexuals ....'cause most people think that's just plain ....GROSS!

Baron Max

Giambattista
11-16-07, 12:34 PM
No, I think it's quite well accepted for a man and woman to marry and not have children. But not homosexuals ....'cause most people think that's just plain ....GROSS!

Baron Max

Wow! Are you three years old ALREADY!!!

Happy Birthday!!! :p

greenberg
11-16-07, 12:43 PM
No, I think it's 'cause most people think homosexual sex is ....GROSS!

Aww, look at them ...

http://www.altfg.com/Stars/b/brokebackmountainhug.jpg


Beautiful.

Orleander
11-16-07, 01:48 PM
No, I think it's 'cause most people think homosexual sex is ....GROSS!...

No just guys.
Girl/Girl sex is hot. People pay to see it. They just can't get married because that's wrong.
:rolleyes:

Chatha
01-03-08, 02:12 PM
There is no way homosexuality is chosen