http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6238217.stm

A Bahraini athlete who ran and won a marathon in Israel has been stripped of his [Bahraini] citizenship.

Poor guy. Maybe Israel should offer him citizenship to compensate.

This race-based discrimination isn't doing anyone any good.

He used a Kenyan passport, so he has dual citizenship?

It looks like he had dual citizenship :p

It looks like he had dual citizenship :p

Yes.:p

But wouldn't he know about the boycott if he's a professional athlete?

Seems to me he was making a statement, or just making himself famous?;)

He only moved to Bahrain in 2003. Maybe he hasn't learned enough of their culture to know to avoid the Israeli race. And now it's too late for a second chance.

Excuse the puns :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6238217.stm



Poor guy. Maybe Israel should offer him citizenship to compensate.

This race-based discrimination isn't doing anyone any good.
I thought you were talking about losing weight... never mind.

This reminds me of someone's recent post on another thread about an African winning any race into which Africans are allowed. I suppose the time has come to an end when white people win races in Israel.

There've been black Jews in Israel for ages. Google 'Falasha'.

So much for the claims of the pro Islamist as to the freedom of choice in their societies, a great way to foster peace and understanding.

Freedom is a relative term in many societies.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0914/p06s01-wome.html
Some societies see any disagreement as treason:

"I voted Likud my whole life. I was educated to hate and fear Arabs. I thought the occupation was just. But when I discovered that my freedom was assured at the Palestinians' expense, notably those of Jenine, I couldn't live with it," she explained to the press before her arrest. Sarah herself doesn't seem to have sized up the extent of her daughter's political and intellectual journey. "In my family, we voted Likud habitually, because sometimes that allowed us to find work. Nothing that had anything to do with the Arabs interested us. At the time when they worked in my factory [before the second Intifada], I knew Palestinians, very polite, very nice. But, if you had asked me what I thought of the Occupation, I wouldn't have known what to say. My only politics was to educate my three daughters."

Tali discovered discrimination against "the Arabs" in 2002, in the lawyers' office in Tel-Aviv where she worked up until her curious itinerary was broadcast in the media. Idealism, great curiosity, and the certainty of doing the right thing plunged the secretary into the strange situation she is now in. Paradoxically, her realization came about at the height of the Intifada. "She wanted to understand what pushed young Palestinians to blow themselves up in Israeli buses and restaurants," her mother explains. To go beyond the partial explanations delivered by Israeli television, Tali then bought all the newspapers, surfed the Internet, met Arab internet users that way, with whom she conducted long conversations in English. These communications triggered the suspicions of the domestic security service, which interrogated her about this sudden interest.

Her desire to go see "the other side" did not flag. She decided on Jenine. Arrested the first time, she was released after several days without explanation. "Shin Bet tried to recruit her," Sarah asserts. "She refused, that made them crazy," adds Juliano. "At no time did Tali realize she constituted a danger to the system. She naïvely thought that as a Jew, she would be protected." A mistake.

Even her family has not been spared. In the face of surrounding hostility, her mother Sarah had to leave her apartment. Six of her seven brothers and sisters no longer speak to her. "In this business, I've lost my whole life from before," she summarizes simply. Her new life is entirely devoted to Tali. Zacharia Zubeidi telephones her regularly for news. In November, the energetic little woman will go to Europe to make the "Fahima Case" known. She'll travel with a Palestinian mother whose son is in administrative detention. Of Algerian nationality and holder of a French passport, Sarah intends to ask for a French passport for her daughter.

With regard to the trial itself, Tali's lawyer, Smadar Ben Natan, does not hide his anxiety. "If the judges stuck to the facts of the case, I'd be optimistic: the file is empty. But they're going to take security considerations into account and the pressure of public opinion. That's what makes me pessimistic." The defender, who considers his client to be a "political prisoner," deems that Israel is now a country that puts its opponents in prison." A few months ago, the then-Justice Minister, Joseph Lapid, did not hesitate to render his verdict publicly before the trial: "This woman entirely deserves to remain in jail ..."

"The idea is to frighten, to deter, and to silence not only Tali but also others," says Ms. Ben-Natan. "They do not want people to make connections with Palestinians or to witness the occupation first hand. They want to maintain the separation that exists between Palestinians and Israelis."

Freedom is a relative term in many societies.

Yeah, India is struggling with it, too. I've been doing some reading up on India lately. Wow! After reading your posts, Sam, I expected nothing less than utopia or better. WRONG!!

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Yeah, India is struggling with it, too. I've been doing some reading up on India lately. Wow! After reading your posts, Sam, I expected nothing less than utopia or better. WRONG!!

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Ya I used to read about the US too. Guess what I found the reality to be like?

Ya I used to read about the US too. Guess what I found the reality to be like?

Well, what can you expect ....you went to New Fuckin' York City! :D

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Well, what can you expect ....you went to New Fuckin' York City! :D

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Actually that was the only place in the US that met/exceeded my expectations. I liked NY very much.:)

Actually that was the only place in the US that met/exceeded my expectations. I liked NY very much.:)

Yeah, I can imagine that ...all the stinkin' people crowding the streets; crime every-fuckin'-where; chances of getting mugged or assaulted; people of all cultures and ethnicities hating each other but hiding it; ......, sure, Sam, you felt right at home ...just like Bombay! :D

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Yeah, I can imagine that ...all the stinkin' people crowding the streets; crime every-fuckin'-where; chances of getting mugged or assaulted; people of all cultures and ethnicities hating each other but hiding it; ......, sure, Sam, you felt right at home ...just like Bombay! :D

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Strange that I spent 3 months in New York without incident, but experienced prejudice on almost every single trip to the MidWest. Why do you think that is?:rolleyes:

samcdkey, I spent 7 day in New York and experience prejudice the first day.

Strange that I spent 3 months in New York without incident, ...

Rich people who live and wander around Park Avenue seldom do. Congratulations.

But you didn't happen to ask any of the Indians who live in the lower, dirtier, more dangerous areas of town, did you? Why not? I thought you knew and personally talked to all people every where you went?

...but experienced prejudice on almost every single trip to the MidWest. Why do you think that is?:rolleyes:

Midwesterns don't like rich people flaunting their wealth.

And, of course, you met and got to know virtually all midwesterners, right? I mean, the great Sam surely wouldn't make a snap judgement about a whole people based on just a few incidents, right? No, no, ....not our Sam!! :D

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Rich people who live and wander around Park Avenue seldom do. Congratulations.

But you didn't happen to ask any of the Indians who live in the lower, dirtier, more dangerous areas of town, did you? Why not? I thought you knew and personally talked to all people every where you went?


You mean Queens?:rolleyes:


Midwesterns don't like rich people flaunting their wealth.

Well then they should have loved my old jeans and Tshirts.

And, of course, you met and got to know virtually all midwesterners, right? I mean, the great Sam surely wouldn't make a snap judgement about a whole people based on just a few incidents, right? No, no, ....not our Sam!! :D



Are you kidding? After my "introduction" to the "hospitality" of the Midwest, I finally realised why everyone has their own transportation! To make a quick getaway!!!!!!!!:D

Update: apparently he lost his Kenyan citizenship by default when he took out Bahraini, so not only was his Kenyan passport probably illegal when he used it, but he is now stateless. Oops.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6242323.stm

Update: apparently he lost his Kenyan citizenship by default when he took out Bahraini, so not only was his Kenyan passport probably illegal when he used it, but he is now stateless. Oops.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6242323.stm

Poor guy. I wondered how he could still use the passport.

What are his options?

You can't have 3 passports (Kenyan,Bahrain, & now Israel), I think.

Er ... you can have three passports, if the countries in question allow it. Some people are born that way (e.g. one parent British, other Italian, born in America).

What are his options?
Find a country that wants an athlete, or apply for asylum, I suppose?