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Muslim
03-03-06, 08:15 AM
How do Europeans feel about the genocide of 6 million Jews?

To me it seems like Europeans think its their birth right to hate on Arabs, Muslims, blacks and Jews. Think about it white Bosnian Muslims, were left there was an arms embargo against them while the Serbs were supplied with arms, loads of white European blond haired blue eyed Muslims were killed by Serbs and rest of Europe didn't do anything. Still the guy responsible is at large, and is protected by the Serbian government. The Odd thing is, it was these people who allied with Hitler it was Serb Christians and Bosnian Muslims who supported Hitler, you see something there? when it comes to killing Jews religion doesn't matter, Blond haired blue eyed Europeans ally with each other to kill others regardless of religion.

There is a real issue here of Anti-smetiisam, look at America antisemitism is no existent. Actually I was in America last year it was my first time going to America I wanted to go to America before but then sep11 happened and I didn't like the way some Americans targeted Muslims, so I thought it was a bad time to go. Anyway, last year when I went there, I was really expecting people to be racist or intolerant. And seriously I was surprised to see how tolerant Americans were, compared to Europe I was really, really surprised.

Americans are some of the greasiest people in the world and the most tolerant, I wish I lived in America, now I understand why so many people like from other races in America love being Americans and waving American flags. When I used to see black people waving Americans flags I was thinking what is going on.

I think Europeans need to look at American attitudes toward minorities. To this day I have never see a white European condemn the genocide of 6 million Jews, yet they expect Muslims to condemn suicide bombings. I can understand Americans demanding condemnation for suicide bombing but Europeans demanding it seems a bit hypocritical - also here I would like to make a point I condemn any suicide bombings, on anyone. I condemn all forms of terrorism, it never solves anything.

River Ape
03-03-06, 08:50 AM
The Odd thing is, it was these people who allied with Hitler it was Serb Christians and Bosnian Muslims who supported Hitler, you see something there?
You are so wrong!!! The Catholic Croats were allied with Hitler and inflicted terrible slaughter upon their Orthodox Serb neighbours.

Muslim
03-03-06, 08:59 AM
You are so wrong!!! The Catholic Croats were allied with Hitler and inflicted terrible slaughter upon their Orthodox Serb neighbours.

Its technically the samething isn't it.

Muslim
03-03-06, 07:36 PM
Just proves my point. Europeans will not even respond to my topic

dixonmassey
03-03-06, 08:40 PM
How do Europeans feel about the genocide of 6 million Jews?

Where does 6 millions come from? I dislike that holocaust was privatized by who know whom and where. There are set of "untouchable" cliches everybody must accept to avoid being called nasty names. Nobody seems know where those cliches come from.

I'm Eaaaaastern European (not quite the guy you expect reply from). I can tell you what I feel about it. If you were a soviet POW during WWII, your chances to be killed/starved/worked to death were somewhat greater than those for a Europian Jew (even if we accept official 6 millions). However, nobody seems to know/care about that. That's right, who cares about those soviet peasant garbage. They don't count. Those deceased peasants don't have powerful lobby to make a buck or two on their suffering. No need to cry holocaust on every corner.

I dislike the reality (in the Western countries, at least. Where it counts:)) that WWII is being universally perceived as a result of innate Hitler's hatred toward Jews. Hitler started the war to kill all Jews, nothing else bothered poor Adolf. That's the answer you'll get from 80% of rare Westernern youngsters, who know at least something about WWII.

I dislike the reality that Jews de facto privatized suffering and keep on making $ on it. Were Jews the only victim of genocide? Obviously not. However, we are constantly being bombarded with holocaust. Nobody and nothing else matters. That's right, Jews are chosen, goyims are dirt with souls of animal. 60 years passed since WWII, let it go.

Guess what is the ONLY monument US government paid 100% for? You got that right. Jewish Holocaust memorial. Not American Indian Holocaust memorial, that never happened.

By throwing holocaust in everybody's face, 60 years after it happened, Jews (those who do throwing) effectively say "we are chosen, our sufferings worth more than goyim's, you owe us".

And lastly, the thing which will upset PC crowd a lot. For centuries, Jews were disliked, prosecuted in many places. Sure, one could say that was because of bigotry and barbarity of everybody but Jews. That quite a racist statement - "All world is evil, Jews are gentle lambs". Have Jews ever questioned if they contributed little bit of something to that universal dislike?
Or it's simply impossible because it's impossible?

Zephyr
03-04-06, 08:48 AM
So after collective guilt, collective anger? Gotta love cycles...

"These people are strange - let's discriminate against them!"
"Oh no, we discriminated too much and it led to this tragedy - it must never happen again."
"Our parents felt guilty about discriminating. That makes me angry. Angry at those people we discriminated against for daring to make me feel guilty. I'm so angry, I'm going to start discriminating again!"

Or for the overzealous:

"Looks like we overdid it. That makes me feel slightly guilty. But there are almost none of them left, so I'll forget about it soon."

So when faced by a strange group, either people allow themselves to be swept up by their emotions in cycles ... e.g. against blacks, Muslims, Catholics, Jews, gypsies etc ... or they end up almost wiping them out ... e.g. American Indians, Aborigines, etc ..?

What a depressing idea.

Muslim
03-04-06, 11:59 AM
Where does 6 millions come from? I dislike that holocaust was privatized by who know whom and where. There are set of "untouchable" cliches everybody must accept to avoid being called nasty names. Nobody seems know where those cliches come from.

I'm Eaaaaastern European (not quite the guy you expect reply from). I can tell you what I feel about it. If you were a soviet POW during WWII, your chances to be killed/starved/worked to death were somewhat greater than those for a Europian Jew (even if we accept official 6 millions). However, nobody seems to know/care about that. That's right, who cares about those soviet peasant garbage. They don't count. Those deceased peasants don't have powerful lobby to make a buck or two on their suffering. No need to cry holocaust on every corner.

I dislike the reality (in the Western countries, at least. Where it counts:)) that WWII is being universally perceived as a result of innate Hitler's hatred toward Jews. Hitler started the war to kill all Jews, nothing else bothered poor Adolf. That's the answer you'll get from 80% of rare Westernern youngsters, who know at least something about WWII.

I dislike the reality that Jews de facto privatized suffering and keep on making $ on it. Were Jews the only victim of genocide? Obviously not. However, we are constantly being bombarded with holocaust. Nobody and nothing else matters. That's right, Jews are chosen, goyims are dirt with souls of animal. 60 years passed since WWII, let it go.

Guess what is the ONLY monument US government paid 100% for? You got that right. Jewish Holocaust memorial. Not American Indian Holocaust memorial, that never happened.

By throwing holocaust in everybody's face, 60 years after it happened, Jews (those who do throwing) effectively say "we are chosen, our sufferings worth more than goyim's, you owe us".

And lastly, the thing which will upset PC crowd a lot. For centuries, Jews were disliked, prosecuted in many places. Sure, one could say that was because of bigotry and barbarity of everybody but Jews. That quite a racist statement - "All world is evil, Jews are gentle lambs". Have Jews ever questioned if they contributed little bit of something to that universal dislike?
Or it's simply impossible because it's impossible?

Well said. 1000s of Indians/Pakistanis died too, none of them got any compensation.

Zephyr
03-04-06, 12:20 PM
Nobody who died in the Holocaust got compensation. It's a bit late for that.

Avatar
03-04-06, 02:14 PM
how do Europeans feel about the genocide of 6 million Jews?
Don't know. I'm from Eastern Europe and I certainly don't care at all about those jews.
Died, lived - doesn't affect my life in the least.
Shit happens and they were not the only ones who died.
And in the global order of things it's nothing even worth remembering.
I'm more worried about whole species going extinct because of deforestation and greedy fishing.

Brian Foley
03-04-06, 03:13 PM
There is a real issue here of Anti-smetiisam, look at America antisemitism is no existent.
Yeah right !
US audit of anti-Semitic attacks in America 1999 (http://www.adl.org/1999_Audit/Summer_1999.asp)
Early in the morning of June 18, three Sacramento, CA, synagogues were set afire, causing an estimated $1 million damage.

L.A. gunman Buford Furrow and Chicago killer Benjamin Smith were men who wallowed in neo-Nazism and hate. Furrow told the FBI that he wanted the shootings at the North Valley Jewish Community Center where three small boys, a teen-age girl and an adult staff member were wounded - to be "a wake-up call to America to kill Jews."
In the Midwest, Smith went on a rampage over the July 4 weekend with the clear intention of killing Jews
Could I see where in Europe these types of attacks are happening .

Hurricane Angel
03-08-06, 06:28 PM
Just proves my point. Europeans will not even respond to my topic

That's because you're an idiot.