Ethnicity of Middle Easterners

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    What ethnic group are Middle Easterners from? Do they get their own, or are they considered Asian?
     
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  3. depends on what country they are from; most so-called 'arabs' have a non-arabic foundation, usually females & children were taken by the male arabs, who kept 4 wives or harems if they were nobles; see King Al-Saud, left about 52 children, that form the basis of the Saudi royal government
    see below:
    http://ibn-saud.biography.ms/
     
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    So most Arabs are Saudi royalty?

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    I know the Turks were from the Asian steppe, similar to the Mongols. But what of Jews and Palestinians and Arabs?
     
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  7. just fyi: here's a connection with Jewish ethnicity

    http://www.med.nyu.edu/genetics/research/jewish_origins.html
    last year, I found a neat site that had tables, but I lost it after my hard drive crashed, I wish I remembered the URL
     
  8. no, all Saudi royalty is arab, descended from al-Aziz al-Saud.
    in Egypt, the core of the population is from ancient Egyptians with arab males. in Lebanon, its ancient Phoenician, in Syria, it's Assyrian, in Iraq, it’s Chaldean. through conquest & conversion they became "arab"
    they too got mixed, from Asiatic, with Persian, Greek, Slav, etc... whoever they conquered, they mated with, see images of modern Turks
    http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9908/18/turkey.quake.02/link.ecevit.jpg
    http://www.armenialiberty.org/images/photo/Turk-Rus2.jpg
    need to find stats & tables, let me look
     
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    I always figured that the Middle East must have a really interesting ethnic history, as it's at the crossroads of three major continents, yet has such extreme tribalism and marriage practices.
     
  10. I used the following keywords to google: dna tables jews Palestinians Arabs
    then found these below:

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=379128#RF54
    click link above, to get actual tables listed below

    http://bioanthropology.huji.ac.il/pdf/Nebel _2005.pdf
    Adobe Doc, I can’t copy, but tables start on pg 2 of this doc

    http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2003-10/1066334341
    http://www.assyrianfoundation.org/genetics.htm
    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=14674
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The Palestinians are descended from the Philistines. Even the one name is just a phonetic evolution from the other. Beyond that their origin is a bit mysterious. You can spend several days googling "Philistine." The consensus is that they clearly came from a home in the eastern Mediterranean sometime during the First Millennium BCE. Cyprus and Crete are mentioned most often as possibilities but look at a map and it's just a highfalutin way of saying "duh." Where their ancestors lived before they became sailors is unknown. One school of thought says they were a tribe of Hittites. The name "Philistine" is used for a number of distinct peoples throughout ancient history, in more or less the same region, but it's not clear that they are actually the same people as ones who bore the label last and who were the ancestors of the Palestinians.
     
  12. yes, some have even said "greek", which would have meant they would have blended in with the 'hellenized' population during the Seleucid & Ptolemy periods after Alexander
    modern Palestinians are named for their region of origin, they may be arab, Samarian, etc... mix
     

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