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Beer w/Straw
12-16-10, 11:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escitalopram

Cipralex requires a prescription and Lexapro you could buy from like India without a prescription.

What is the difference if any between the two?

Has anyone here actually made there own drugs?


Yes, a very surreptitious question I know.

Idle Mind
12-16-10, 08:03 PM
As far as I can tell from the wiki page, Cipralex and Lexapro are just different commercial names for the same drug (escitalopram).

I have made acetaminophen in a lab (organic chem in university), but I don't have the equipment or the patience to want to make stuff like that in the house.

Captain Kremmen
12-17-10, 05:23 AM
Years ago, you could get a catalogue from a chemical company and buy whatever you wanted, mail order.
These days even simple chemicals can't be ordered because of people making amphetamines. You can't get even basic chemicals like phosphorous and potassium permanganate. Iodine is another one.

In America, if you are found with the ingredients for making an illegal drug, you will be charged as if you had made it, and you will go to prison for even your first offence. Don't even think of manufacture.

I've never seen any threads on here about making drugs.
Perhaps the site has a policy of not allowing them.
Is that the case moderators?

Beer w/Straw
12-17-10, 07:02 AM
Well, under a prescription, a three month 10mg supply would cost under $200.

Unless home made Escitalopram is as simple as broccoli and cheese, its not worth it :)

Which would suggest that it could be found naturally in food.

Captain Kremmen
12-17-10, 09:12 AM
$800 a year is a lot of money if you can't afford it.
What if you need a higher dose or are already on other medicines?

Some medicines have side effects that need to be tested for.
eg liver function tests.

A particular medicine may not suit you as an individual.
That's why if you look up almost any drug, you will find sites where people are describing it as a hell drug.

Any particular reason why you mention an anti depressant?
Are you depressed?

Beer w/Straw
12-17-10, 10:06 AM
Those are lots of questions. Escitalopram was the title of this post even before I thought of randomly making it.

I'm just trying to get information. Not medical advice or construe of a rolling Escitalopram lab.

Captain Kremmen
12-17-10, 10:49 AM
Escitalopram was the title of this post even before I thought of randomly making it.


Are you a fatalist?

Beer w/Straw
12-17-10, 11:21 AM
Are you a fatalist?

Could be, but that was just a way to say I was looking for info before I even thought of posting

Gremmie
12-17-10, 11:27 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escitalopram

Cipralex requires a prescription and Lexapro you could buy from like India without a prescription.

What is the difference if any between the two?



There is no difference between the two..

Escitalopram also goes by Seroplex and Lexamil..

Getting the compounds necessary to make it, could be a problem.

Being that you probably aren't licensed to buy the ingredients legally, you never know what you would get on the Black Market.

Idle Mind
12-17-10, 07:45 PM
Cyanide is one of the groups on the molecule, too, so you'd have to have a 'lab' set up where it would be safe to deal with a chemical of that nature.

Beer w/Straw
12-17-10, 07:56 PM
Eek!

I was about to make a post in a pharmacology forum and then you mention cyanide.

That's a definite red flag.

Beer w/Straw
12-17-10, 08:11 PM
Eek!

I was about to make a post in a pharmacology forum and then you mention cyanide.

That's a definite red flag.

But if one didn't ask dumb questions, ones ignorance couldn't be turned into an adventure!



Cyanides are produced by certain bacteria, fungi, and algae and are found in a number of plants. Cyanides are found, although in small amounts, in certain seeds and stones, e.g. those of apple, mango, peach, and bitter almonds.[8] In plants, cyanides are usually bound to sugar molecules in the form of cyanogenic glycosides and defend the plant against herbivores. Cassava roots (also called manioc), an important potato-like food grown in tropical countries (and the base from which tapioca is made), also contain cyanogenic glycosides.[9][10]

The cyanide radical CNĚ has been identified in interstellar space.[11]

Hydrogen cyanide is produced by the combustion or pyrolysis of certain materials under oxygen-deficient conditions. For example it can be detected in the exhaust of internal combustion engines and tobacco smoke. Certain plastics, especially those derived from acrylonitrile, release hydrogen cyanide when heated or burnt.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide

But The cyanide radical CNĚ has been identified in interstellar space is a bit off the chart. :bugeye:

Idle Mind
12-21-10, 09:49 PM
It's naturally occurring in nature, too. But if you're trying to synthesize the molecule in a lab, and you have to add that functional group, you're going to have to deal with something like HCN, which is quite deadly when inhaled. Once it's part of the drug molecule, you're ok, but the precursor molecule, the one you're using in the synthesis, is not safe.

Unless I misunderstand the above post.

Beer w/Straw
12-22-10, 09:10 AM
Escitalopram is an S-Stereiosomer. So even if I had the capability to make it, how would I know I wasn't making another anti-depressant Citalopram?

I feel like I'm doing theoretical internet alchemy by trying to turn broccoli and cheese into Escitalopram.

Idle Mind
12-22-10, 07:13 PM
Well, if you synthesized it you would get Citalopram, technically -- it is the racemic mixture of the two enantiomers. You would have to try to isolate out the Escitalopram afterwards.

Beer w/Straw
12-24-10, 10:07 AM
Merry X-Mas to all, and don't use drugs!