Do you think Enoch Powell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech) was racist or was he right? Has what he spoke about finally happened?

Do you by any chance like to play sudoku? :bugeye:

Don't care if he was a racist or cannibal. Enoch Powell was right, Britain is falling apart!!!

He only spoke about what he saw as the truth as to what was going to happen, to him, his opinion. He is entitled to say what he thinks is going to happen and justify it even if he might be wrong in the long term. Fear of the future is always going to be held by those in power today for those at the bottom will one day rise to the top as he thought but sometimes other things develop that bring about a different result. :)

Do you by any chance like to play sudoku? :bugeye:

???um yeah, why? :shrug:

Don't care if he was a racist or cannibal. Enoch Powell was right, Britain is falling apart!!!

are any politicians saying the same thing now? Are the English leaving their country because of too many immigrants?

are any politicians saying the same thing now?
The BNP probably does.

BNP?? Do you have a link?

Google? The full name is British National Party.

Google? The full name is British National Party.

LOL, yes, google brought up a ton of BNP things besides that. I didn't want to pick and assume since I am unfamiliar with British politics. Thanks.

???um yeah, why? :shrug:
I knew it!!!

J/K

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=23525

He had avatar depicting badge with "Enoch Powell was right" slogan.

Unfortunately, permabanning disables avatars, so I guess my question is just a good joke badly told now.

Do you think Enoch Powell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech) was racist or was he right? Has what he spoke about finally happened?
The first thing to say is that being racist and being right aren't mutually exclusive. He could conceivably be both. And the second thing to say is that immigration isn't necessarily a racial issue. At the moment the UK is seeing a lot of white Eastern European immigration - punctual, hard-working Polish plumbers feature heavily, as do a large number of Bulgarians skilled in the black arts of people-smuggling and prostitution.

"Has what he spoke about finally happened?" Well, no, it hasn't to the best of my knowledge. I walk British streets often enough to call it routine and my trainers remain conspicuously unbloodied. But then I live in one of Britain's whitest towns, so I would say that, wouldn't I. Go to London and, in some boroughs, ethnic minorities outnumber the indigenous population. Go to Birmingham, our second city, and whites also appears to be outnumbered (though I'm informed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/20/race.communities) that they won't actually be so for another 15 years). Go to Leeds or Leicester, Bradford, Luton or any other large city and the ethnic mix is also immediately apparent, whilst most towns and villages remain largely untouched. Whole swathes of East Anglia, the West Country and other rural areas have more white-owned farms than pre-2000 Zimbabwe, and no black men sing in the fields, whilst the whole of Scotland is as pasty-faced as they come. Oops, we're back to race again.

As the above link makes clear, the picture's a complicated one, with the more successful immigrants selling up and moving out to the country, leaving less wealthy citizens of every hue behind in the urban melting pots.

UK ethnic population as a proportion of the overall total: 7.9% (up 1.9% on the 1991 figures). British right-wing newspapers pounce on every incident of ethnic violence and try their best to whip up a frenzy but, back on the ground, people are just living their lives and getting by as they always have. We British are known for our pragmatism.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/20/race.communities

I knew it!!!

J/K

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=23525

He had avatar depicting badge with "Enoch Powell was right" slogan.

Unfortunately, permabanning disables avatars, so I guess my question is just "a good joke badly told now.

Oh I see. I'll do for you what I do for my husband. :D

LMFAO!!! Oh that is funny! I wish I had said that! :roflmao: You always come up with the wittiest observations. :bravo: I love you."

<walks away rolling eyes>

... with the more successful immigrants selling up and moving out to the country, leaving less wealthy citizens of every hue behind in the urban melting pots....

and that is what I see here. blacks moved into white neighborhoods, whites moved out. Mexicans moved into black neighborhood, blacks are moving out. Now Chinese are moving into Mexican neighborhoods.

Each group complains about the new group moving in. Each new group is supposedly living 100 to a house, lazy, violent, rude, etc. But I don't really see how anything changes.

Do you think Enoch Powell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech) was racist or was he right? Has what he spoke about finally happened?

He was right.

A courageous and intelligent man who will be revered in centuries to come.

Oh I see. I'll do for you what I do for my husband.

LMFAO!!! Oh that is funny! I wish I had said that! :roflmao: You always come up with the wittiest observations. :bravo: I love you."

<walks away rolling eyes>
Women. :shrug:

He was right.

A courageous and intelligent man who will be revered in centuries to come.


Wrong. He's a political footnote.

i knwo this is going to be a dumbass question but who was/is enoch powel

Wrong. He's a political footnote.


Like the American Indians are only a footnote in history?

Enoch Powell and Malcolm X are basically the same person.

Wrong. He's a political footnote.
i knwo this is going to be a dumbass question but who was/is enoch powel
The people have spoken.

(Actually, he's a smart cookie and won't easily be forgotten. He was still wrong though, and continues to be.)

i knwo this is going to be a dumbass question but who was/is enoch powel

I'm surprised. I would have thought he would have been in your history books and taught at school. I wonder if your kids know about him.