View Full Version : Ending the looming threat of overpopulation.


Redefine91
05-18-07, 10:50 PM
Can it be construed as cruel if the world powers stopped giving food aid to third world countries.

It plays out like this. when you have a population 1 billion starving, you need to create food for 1 billion. When those 1 billion, or most of them anyway, have food, they live longer, and in most cases, reproduce, adding to the 7 billion already here.

The next generation could have 7.5 billion or even 8.

this just leaves us even more fucked than we were when 1 billion people were starving in a world of 7 billion. We now have too feed 2 billion starving.

Its the new "it" thing these days to be near overly concerned for the state of the earth. All the hottest celebrities are doing it, movies about iit are winning awards and yet the problem of feeding the hungry goes largely ignored.

Even with the advancement in technology, there is a threshold of people Earth was not meant to contain.

So again, is it cruel to deny the hungry food in hope for a better tomorrow?

one_raven
05-18-07, 11:13 PM
The world is not even close to over-populated.
We should not feed the poor, we should help them to feed themselves.
Give a man a fish...

Mosheh Thezion
05-19-07, 01:13 AM
http://ecclesiaorworldfed.blogspot.com/

THE WORLD IS NOT OVER POPULATED..... its just un-employed.

-MT

nietzschefan
05-19-07, 01:29 AM
myth

John99
05-19-07, 01:33 AM
It's not overpupulated in terms of numbers of people, what about bio load?

Wisdom_Seeker
05-25-07, 12:15 PM
I think that if our population keeps growing at the rate it is growing right now, the planet will defend itself likewise to the way we defend ourselves from a virus. Like an ice-age, that would solve the problem...

peta9
05-25-07, 12:59 PM
Can it be construed as cruel if the world powers stopped giving food aid to third world countries.

It plays out like this. when you have a population 1 billion starving, you need to create food for 1 billion. When those 1 billion, or most of them anyway, have food, they live longer, and in most cases, reproduce, adding to the 7 billion already here.

The next generation could have 7.5 billion or even 8.

this just leaves us even more fucked than we were when 1 billion people were starving in a world of 7 billion. We now have too feed 2 billion starving.

Its the new "it" thing these days to be near overly concerned for the state of the earth. All the hottest celebrities are doing it, movies about iit are winning awards and yet the problem of feeding the hungry goes largely ignored.

Even with the advancement in technology, there is a threshold of people Earth was not meant to contain.

So again, is it cruel to deny the hungry food in hope for a better tomorrow?

The problem has always been politics. The planet produces more food than all these starving people could possibly eat and then some. That's the shame, the physical solution is available but the fault and weakness lies in our characters which prevent the solution.

Baron Max
05-25-07, 01:12 PM
The problem has always been politics. The planet produces more food than all these starving people could possibly eat and then some.

The fault is not politics, but costly distribution of those products. Do you have any idea how much it would cost to ship in the necessary food to feed all of those starving people? Who pays for that? Who pays for the ships, trucks, railroads, maintainance personnel, distribution personnel, roadway maintenance, ...., and any of a gazillion different problems?

It's easy to say, to SAY, that we can produce the food to feed the millions, but it's quite another to make it happen and to pay for it.

An idealist will make the same statement as you've made, but it takes a realist to make it happen ....and lots and lots of money and effort.

Baron Max

peta9
05-25-07, 01:25 PM
The fault is not politics, but costly distribution of those products. Do you have any idea how much it would cost to ship in the necessary food to feed all of those starving people? Who pays for that? Who pays for the ships, trucks, railroads, maintainance personnel, distribution personnel, roadway maintenance, ...., and any of a gazillion different problems?

It's easy to say, to SAY, that we can produce the food to feed the millions, but it's quite another to make it happen and to pay for it.

An idealist will make the same statement as you've made, but it takes a realist to make it happen ....and lots and lots of money and effort.

Baron Max

Thank you for agreeing with me which brings me to another point, greed. If everyone pitched in a little this wouldn't be that hard and eventually they can be taught and given a handup not just a handout. Again, the problem lies in politics and the fault is in our characters.

Syzygys
05-25-07, 02:00 PM
The world is not even close to over-populated.


Depends on the definition.

Please find Waldo on the picture:

http://www.senescence.info/overpopulation.jpg

Zephyr
05-25-07, 03:48 PM
One Child Policy.

Baron Max
05-25-07, 08:04 PM
Depends on the definition.

Please find Waldo on the picture:...

When I see pictures like that, or of huge crowds in cityscapes, I actually feel physically sick!

Baron Max

nietzschefan
05-25-07, 08:38 PM
Well I guess we'll just have to kill some off huh?

Let's start with redefine,Syzygys and the baron.

Syzygys
05-25-07, 08:43 PM
Let's go by age. Baron first. We save on social security too...

nietzschefan
05-25-07, 08:55 PM
lol cool...cool

Wisdom_Seeker
05-28-07, 02:24 PM
I´m serious, overpopulation cannot be a reality, the Earth will deal with it on its own...

Excesive CO2 would cause an unbalancing effect that would cause bigger storms, stronger natural phenomena, wider temperature changes. Not mentioning an evident Ice Age.

So I say don´t worry about overpopulation, the Earth can take care of itself...