View Full Version : EU Poll: Israel Greater Threat to World Peace than NK


jps
11-01-03, 09:36 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1076084,00.html
Israel has been described as the top threat to world peace, ahead of North Korea, Afghanistan and Iran, by an unpublished European Commission poll of 7,500 Europeans, sparking an international row.

The survey, conducted in October, of 500 people from each of the EU's member nations included a list of 15 countries with the question, 'tell me if in your opinion it presents or not a threat to peace in the world'. Israel was reportedly picked by 59 per cent of those interviewed.


Looking at this logically, it seems very reasonable to say that Israel is a greater threat to world peace than North Korea, as at this point, NK hasn't been in combat(aside from a few skirmishes here and there) for quite a while, and the only demand its making in order to abandon nuclear weapons, is for a non-aggression pact with the US.

Israel on the other hand is in a constant struggle against its own opressed inhabitants who have great sympathy and support in surrounding countries, which Israel has no qualms about attacking. Israel also is a country with a large nuclear arsenal which it has threatened to use on occasion, and is completely unwilling to abandon.

The leaking of the results of the poll to El Pais and the International Herald Tribune has sparked a bitter row, with a major Jewish human rights and lobbying group, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, demanding that the EU be excluded from the Israel-Palestinian peace process and accusing Europe of suffering the worst outbreak of 'anti-semitism' since World War Two.

Israeli Ministers and spokesman have also been at pains recently to insist that a definition of modern 'anti-semitism' should include criticism of the way the state of Israel chooses to protect itself, defining that criticism as an overt attack on Israel's survival.
Now this is ridiculous. To say that opposing Israel's actions(or even Israel's existance) is anti-semitic is akin to saying that opposing Saudi Arabia's governments actions is anti-muslim.
Is Neteuri Karta anti-semitic?

Ghassan Kanafani
11-01-03, 09:53 PM
Man u will never get it will you ? :D

If non-Jews complain about zionism they are anti-semitic , if Jews complain about zionism they are self-haters :

pathetic jews , self hating jews , self-hating website ,

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/comments.asp?topic=Angry

But there seems to be a new category , what the hell is a "satmar" ?

jps
11-01-03, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Man u will never get it will you ? :D

If non-Jews complain about zionism they are anti-semitic , if Jews complain about zionism they are self-haters :
I see. So if I said I hated Saudi Arabia's government then I would be Muslim Hater, but if a Muslim said it they would be a self-hater?

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
pathetic jews , self hating jews , self-hating website ,

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/comments.asp?topic=Angry

But there seems to be a new category , what the hell is a "satmar" ?

Satmar

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Satmar is the largest Hasidic group in existence today. Originating in Hungary, the members were dispersed by the Holocaust and World War II. Large numbers of Satmar Hasidim live in Williamsberg and Kiryas Joel in New York, as well as London and Israel. The sect is most widely known for the opposition to Zionism of its most prominent leaders, Rabbi Moses Teitelbaum and his predecessor Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum.

This certainly confuses things...so hasidic jews who are against israel get a seperate category and are not self-haters?

Ghassan Kanafani
11-02-03, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by jps
I see. So if I said I hated Saudi Arabia's government then I would be Muslim Hater, but if a Muslim said it they would be a self-hater? That's right :D

This certainly confuses things...so hasidic jews who are against israel get a seperate category and are not self-haters?

It sure was , perhaps the person in question was just confused and trying to insult more severly by using synonims .

Afterall the the self-hate accusation is aimed at Hassidics in the first place , they supposedly hate themselves because they do not wish to emancipate , which basicly means give up their Jewishness and become a Hebrew zionist for the IDF .

It's interesting how one loves his Jewish self through breaking all Jewish laws and adapting some neo-Hebrew identity , while he hates himself when he practices his religion and continuous living a Jewish traditional life .

You just gotta love those zionists , their logic is just miraculous .

But before I forget , there is another way for a Jew to not be a zionist yet no self-hater either :

Karl Kautsky is a known anti-semite and Marxist. Whatever he has to say based upon hate . Lenni Brenner is another anti-semite and Marxist .

non-Jew & commie-Jew = anti-semitic
religious-Jew = self-hater

:(

They must have forgotten about it in the hand-book (http://electronicintifada.net/artman/uploads/luntzwexneranalysis.pdf)

Proud_Syrian
11-02-03, 10:57 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jps
[B]http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1076084,00.html

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Great news, it only shows that the Europeans are truly awake and not brain-washed by the zionist jewish propaganda.

ALLAH BLESS YOU EUROPE.

nico
11-02-03, 01:43 PM
Both are in the same boat:

i) Both are small states
ii) Both founded on ideology.
iii) Both are hyper-militarized
iv) Both repress citizens they consider (deviants)
v) Both have expansionist policies.
vi) Both have claims on land they don't really own.
vii) Both have nuclear weapons.
viii) Both have the capability to deliver them.
ix) Both rely on one power for their survival, US --> Israel, China--->NK.
x) Both are international pariahs.

If you dangerous on a death scale, NK. If you mean dangerous on a de-stablization scale, Israel. I'm torn!

cornelius
11-02-03, 02:25 PM
Yes, under Sharon et. Co. ; probably not under Perez, Mitzna or almoust everybody else.
Regards,
Cornelius.

Ghassan Kanafani
11-02-03, 03:17 PM
The history of the supposed Israeli left would prove you different .

Vortexx
11-03-03, 01:46 PM
NK MIGHT become the biggest threat to world peace (or so the NK claim, to juice some money out of the industrialized countries), but at this actual moment Sharon & Co IS the stupid eye of the stupid storm.....

Now does a comment like that make me eligible to get my official "anti-semite" certificate in the mail ? I really would like to have one just to put it on the wall next to the "anti-revolutionary" certificate from the chinese government and the "100% beardless infidel" certificate from the Taliban and have a good laugh at it....


Well getting the Taliban to make me a beautifull handdrawn calligraphic document was easy, they sent it to me for free,
Along with an envelope containing some suspicious looking powder..... which i fed to my dog, just to confirm this was just drying powder for the ink.

But the Chinese on the other hand....
Did you know I actually had to bribe several Chinese officials AND make remarks about Taiwan democracy while admitting membership to the Falon-Gong to get my certificate as a non-chinese citizen, still this wasn't enough.....

Making threats about public media disclosure regarding serious leaks in the 3 Gorges Damn finally got these slightly panicing bureacrats off their well-cushioned chairs.. Pronto I received a call from one of the illigal subcontractractors and he promoised me a marble with goldplated certificate, also I received a call from their intelligence service if I would like to receive a certficate made of grey stone, spelling "R.I.P." instead, but I told them that white marble was more fitting with my wallpaper.

It is good to see the advancement of capitalistic principles under that red commie flag!