Click all that apply (the poll allows multiple choice) and, should you feel obliged, tell us a bit more about your usages. The poll displays the names of the selectors for each selection (or is supposed to, for odd, my vote is not displaying my name...).

There are several not listed:
Nutmeg
Salvia Divinorium
Yohimbine
Ephidrene

Im a softy drug bad boy here yeah? :D
I used to use weed quite regularily for two years and experimented with speed which was amazing stuff. I also dabbled in shrooms(which were legal a year ago), salvia div(legal), LSA(legal) etc etc.
I dont bother with drugs anymore now. :bugeye:

Hash, just once.

There is no alcohol listed, I used to drink socially pretty often, rum, vodka.

Nowadays, its usually wine.

Alcohol I have chosen not to list, as well as tobacco, for reasons that they are so culturally ubiquitous that it seems unnecessary to list them amongst drugs which are much less so.

A public poll on illegal drug use? Who's going to respond to that?

I can't believe I've done everything on that list, including never doing drugs, then getting rehabilitated for my meth addiction.

I wonder what the purpose of this poll is. Is this some kind of competition? Whoever has taken the most types of drugs wins? What about quantity vs. number of different drugs? Who has been a heroin addict for the longest? Who has popped the most pills at one time? Are there prizes? Other than stuffing up your life, I mean...

Hands up who thinks it is clever to take illegal drugs?

You forgot Mescaline.

James R:

Actually, pure curiousity. I just was interested as to what type of drugs have been used by members of this forum, specifically in that it is supposed to be "intelligent community" rather than "skid row".

I'm also seeing if some predictions of mine are right.

What predictions are those? And it's not showing me the names either.

The open polling is a bit "iffy," but I responded honestly. Well, at least I could be lying about that. I'll tell that to the DEA. There's no hard evidence.

I can't believe I've done everything on that list, including never doing drugs, then getting rehabilitated for my meth addiction.

Shit man.. you got to by lying. LOL.

You forgot to list "The Sims 2".
Well, it's not a drug, but it's as addicting as one. :p

Oniw17:

My hypothesis would be that cannabis and mushrooms would top the list, with crack and opium likely being the least used.

The original posting suggested to tell a "bit more about your usages".

In my experience the competitive element, the peer pressure, is significant factor. On no occasion did I go out of my way to try a drug; it was always because the opportunity arose, when the stuff was around, on offer, and the curiosity won the day.



I respect the opinions of those with some immediate experience of a subject.

--- Ron.
Nicely put.

I respect the opinions of those with some immediate experience of a subject.

And of the people who have taken drugs that you have asked, how many of them think it is clever?

I had some wild times in the 80's. But now I only use selection #1. Being a control freak means I don't like hallucinogens.

I've done about half of the listed drugs, as well as 2c-i (psychadelic).

What's to worry about unless a police department hired someone to post that question, hired a hacker to find our information, and then decided to waste even more time and resources on stalking us.

The usage of salvia is quite common, probably because it is legal. It should be on the list, yes.

I'm surprised at some of the conservative reactions to this poll!
But then again, I'm 20 and live in California.

Some drugs shouldn't be even compared to others. They can be a spiritual, mind-opening experience, or they can be physically and mentally destructive. Some are manufactured chemicals, others grow in the dirt.

Peer pressure has nothing to do with my own desire to try drugs. I've always been intrigued by the prospect of an enlightening, psychadelic experience, at least since i learned about drugs from actual users and not the DARE program. If anything, I have felt more discouraged than encouraged to try drugs, probably cause i'm a girl.

I wonder what the purpose of this poll is. Is this some kind of competition? Whoever has taken the most types of drugs wins? What about quantity vs. number of different drugs? Who has been a heroin addict for the longest? Who has popped the most pills at one time? Are there prizes? Other than stuffing up your life, I mean...

Hands up who thinks it is clever to take illegal drugs?

Have you ever tried an illegal drug? My guess is no. Have you/Do you currently drink alcohol, or smoke tabacco? I'd like to know why you dislike/mock drugs?

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A few of my thoughts:

What makes an illegal drug any worse than a legal one? Marjiuana, if eaten, poses less of a health threat than alcohol and tabacco.

Salvia is legal, and its effects are much more intense than many illegal drugs.

Legality of a drug has little to do with its harmful effects or addictive nature.

The fact that a drug is illegal is not a good reason not to use it. Most people who really want to use drugs (hard drugs especially) will use them regardless, if crack was legalized I doubt there would be a significant rise in usage of it.

Black markets are made and maintained because of certain drug's illegality.
-Black markets cause alot of problems, especially in places like Columbia.

What people to do to their own bodies should be up to them.

You can sniff glue to get high, but generally the only people who do that are ignorant to the health risk, educating people about the negative side effects of drugs would be a must if any government were to legalize them.

Some drugs should never be used.

Religion has had a big part in the propaganda against drugs.


Botton line:
Many drugs are fun/mind expanding/social, and in my experiences if you are educated about what you're using it won't become a problem, and can be more beneficial to your life than not. Whether its 'cool' or not I think most users would use them anyway.

What's to worry about unless a police department hired someone to post that question, hired a hacker to find our information, and then decided to waste even more time and resources on stalking us.

The usage of salvia is quite common, probably because it is legal. It should be on the list, yes.

I'm surprised at some of the conservative reactions to this poll!
But then again, I'm 20 and live in California.

Some drugs shouldn't be even compared to others. They can be a spiritual, mind-opening experience, or they can be physically and mentally destructive. Some are manufactured chemicals, others grow in the dirt.

Peer pressure has nothing to do with my own desire to try drugs. I've always been intrigued by the prospect of an enlightening, psychadelic experience, at least since i learned about drugs from actual users and not the DARE program. If anything, I have felt more discouraged than encouraged to try drugs, probably cause i'm a girl.


Yeah no one will get arrested for posting what drugs they have tried, it's rather funny some people believe otherwise.

As far as drugs being "spiritual", I think you'll only get a spiritual trip if you're already religious, or inclined to be. I agree some of them can be mind-opening, though :D. Also, be it a mushroom or ecstasy, they both are chemicals, I don't see the distinction between one that grows in the ground or one made in a lab(or at least any inherent goodness/badness).

I agree, peer pressure doesn't have much to do with why I do drugs either, with strong-minded people it rarely does.


PS: Nice to see another Californian here, I goto UCSB and live in the bay :)

SycknesS:

Have you ever tried an illegal drug? My guess is no.

Guess whatever you like.

Have you/Do you currently drink alcohol, or smoke tabacco?

Why do you care?

I'd like to know why you dislike/mock drugs?

I didn't say I dislike or mock drugs. I said it's not clever to take illegal drugs. That's all. Do you disagree? And while we're talking about this, do you feel some need to defend your own behaviour? Are you an illegal drug user?

For what it is worth, without going into details, I agree with some of your other comments.

SycknesS:



Guess whatever you like.



Why do you care?



I didn't say I dislike or mock drugs. I said it's not clever to take illegal drugs. That's all. Do you disagree? And while we're talking about this, do you feel some need to defend your own behaviour? Are you an illegal drug user?

For what it is worth, without going into details, I agree with some of your other comments.

James R, S's comment re 'do you take drugs, my guess is no'....... etc etc actually demonstrate your point rather well. You should be congratulated. His 'sneer' at you suggests he does consider it clever to take drugs. Perplexity was also correct in noting the response to this poll in comparison to others, the enthusiasm with which members want to discuss (gloat) about their drug taking.

It is NOT hard to say YES to peer pressure or drugs, it is exceedingly easy. It is much harder to say NO.

Encouraging drug use is for the weak who wish to spread their weakness. I drink alcohol (rarely, but socially) but I don't promote it to teetotalers, rather I admire their lack of need for it to enjoy themselves or relax. It is not my job to spread addictive or potentially harmful substance use.

The enthusiastic drug users here are kids, the less so are older and hence have learned the penalties for doing so.

Anyway you have nothing to defend, the adhom attcak from S is confirmation you noted correctly.

Have you ever tried an illegal drug? My guess is no. Have you/Do you currently drink alcohol, or smoke tabacco? I'd like to know why you dislike/mock drugs?

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This is Ad Hom and thus your points that follow are invalidated.

You are trying to suggest James R has no valid points to make on the basis of his personal/lack thereof experience with drugs. This is simply not true, every person in the modern world has an opinion on drugs as we are all affected by them, whether we take them or are exposed to people who take them, whether we are victims of their crimes (some not all) or merely in shit relationships while they are in their own little world and not sharing yours.




Botton line:
Many drugs are fun/mind expanding/social, and in my experiences if you are educated about what you're using it won't become a problem, and can be more beneficial to your life than not. Whether its 'cool' or not I think most users would use them anyway.


Save your drug promotion for those you wish those to sell to.

Carcasm and sickness do make the very valid point that all drugs are not anywhere near the same. Weed/Hash is not as bad as cocaine by far, and crack is even worse. I've seen crack destroy the lives of people who would have been successful by social standards. A few times in my own family. Nobody can say that marijuana has ever ruined their lives. Crack will turn a hardworking person into a clepto-robber who can for some reason talk you out of anything if you don't have experience with them. Seriously, crackheads are a big problem near me, and I would imagine everywhere else. They have no morals, no fear, just a need for 3 hits off of a $40 rock. Pills are really bad too. I've seen a healthy person(my uncle) crippled and laid up in a bed in his living room on a breathing machine from them. I'm talking primarily about pain killing persciptions. I've never seen mushrooms do that to anyone. Also, it's true that most drugs users don't do so because of peer presure, it starts that way, but then it changes. I'm speaking of course from my own experience, if you have experiences that conflict mine, then please tell me, I doubt it though, because everywhere I've lived has been the same. IMO, you really shouldn't critique something that you have no experience with(not accusing anyone of doing it).

IMO, you really shouldn't critique something that you have no experience with(not accusing anyone of doing it).

If you live in the modern world, you have experience of it. Our insurances are high due to drug related crime for example, right down to personal closer to home problems. Thus your comment only applies to ...............? Who?

I mean experience to where you are affected directly, not in some distant way like insurance.

I mean experience to where you are affected directly, not in some distant way like insurance.

we are all affected directly

We all know people who use drugs, no one in modern world lives in a drug free culture.

I have a ton of it.

Oh and insurance is not distant unless you are a kid and don't pay it!

I had flat robbed by drug user, married a drug user, saw friends deteriorate through drug use, had dull time at parties while people took cocaine and 'imagined' they were having a riot when really they talked all night about work, repeatedly! My daughter 1.5 yr old found an ounze of canabis etc etc, blah blah blah

Everyone has a right to an opinion whatever the 'distance' to the probelm because drug use IS a problem.

There are people completely oblivious to drugs and their effects, I've met them. Most people are affected, but to say that experience holds no place in the argument would be the same as saying that in any argument. Like having a discussion on relativity when you have never tested or applied it, or any equivalent to that.

There are people completely oblivious to drugs and their effects, I've met them. Most people are affected, but to say that experience holds no place in the argument would be the same as saying that in any argument. Like having a discussion on relativity when you have never tested or applied it, or any equivalent to that.

We are educated about drugs, you can be educated about 'relativity'

thus we can have an opinion.

Do you need to taste arsenic before you can warn people it is posion?

No, there is enough experience and knowledge for everyone to have some view, some are merely more educated than others. But being a 'user' by no means implies you are more 'educated' on the effects.

SycknesS:



Guess whatever you like.



Why do you care?



I didn't say I dislike or mock drugs. I said it's not clever to take illegal drugs. That's all. Do you disagree? And while we're talking about this, do you feel some need to defend your own behaviour? Are you an illegal drug user?

For what it is worth, without going into details, I agree with some of your other comments.

I'm not sure why you assumed that people wanted to answer this poll only to be clever (or take drugs for same such reasons)? It seemed like a rather normal poll to me. From my interpretation of your first post it seemed to me that you disliked drugs in general, if my interpretation was wrong I am sorry. As for asking if you do/dont do drugs(legal or illegal) I was just curious, and still am.

As far as it being clever or not, I don't think that word even really applies to drug use, as it means: Mentally quick, original (at least on dictionary.com)... I suppose it isn't always 'clever' to do drugs.

This is Ad Hom and thus your points that follow are invalidated.

You are trying to suggest James R has no valid points to make on the basis of his personal/lack thereof experience with drugs. This is simply not true, every person in the modern world has an opinion on drugs as we are all affected by them, whether we take them or are exposed to people who take them, whether we are victims of their crimes (some not all) or merely in shit relationships while they are in their own little world and not sharing yours.





Save your drug promotion for those you wish those to sell to.

Well, seeing as those questions were based on curiousity, and seeing as I didn't attack his stance directly, I don't see how that 'invalidates' all of my points.

You are plain wrong in saying that I am trying to suggest James R has no valid points (I don't think he's really even made a point about drugs to this point, aside from the questionable fact that it isn't 'clever' to do). He may very well have valid points about the subject (he still remains neutral on the subject, although I have a guess as to where he stands).

I never said not doing drugs was a means of proving his (or anyone's) points wrong, although I do think that people who have experienced drugs first hand can, in some ways, shed more light onto the subject. The way drug education is generally taught is by more or less demonizing drugs and giving them a negative stigma, thereby making it easy for ignorant bias to ensue.

It is NOT hard to say YES to peer pressure or drugs, it is exceedingly easy. It is much harder to say NO.

Encouraging drug use is for the weak who wish to spread their weakness. I drink alcohol (rarely, but socially) but I don't promote it to teetotalers, rather I admire their lack of need for it to enjoy themselves or relax. It is not my job to spread addictive or potentially harmful substance use.

The enthusiastic drug users here are kids, the less so are older and hence have learned the penalties for doing so.

Anyway you have nothing to defend, the adhom attcak from S is confirmation you noted correctly.

I don't think anyone said it was hard to say yes to peer pressure. If you were referring to what I was saying, I think you are misunderstanding. I said that strong-minded people can say no to peer-pressure a lot easier than others can.

For the most part I was trying to explain some overlooked facts about drugs/drug use, but yes I do think that taking drugs (in moderation) can be a good thing for your life/happiness.

You don't need to drink/do drugs to relax, it merely enhances your level of relaxation (or other feelings, depeding on what you're doing). Addicts may "need" their fix, but doing drugs to that extend was not what I was preaching. I don't even know if I was really preaching anything, I was just giving my opinion on the subject.

Yes, drugs can be potentially harmful, as can driving a car or flying in a plane. I wasn't telling anyone to go load up on crack or have a heroin party.

Addmitedly I had to look up the word 'teetotaler' because I thought you were talking about toddlers or something. Anyway, I don't think that I was really promoting drug use to non-users, I was just sharing my experience.

Also, if someone did attack another with an ad hominem arguement, it wouldn't confirm anything aside from the 'attackers' bad logic.

I've done about half of the listed drugs, as well as 2c-i (psychadelic).


MAD RESPECT

Why the fuck is this a "public poll"? Fuck whoever put it up.

Why the fuck is this a "public poll"? Fuck whoever put it up.

You afraid?

Heh. I doubt anything would happen and that anyone on this board is going to really care exactly who did what. It's just curiosity.

I can see Roman is a hypocrite champion. hehe.

I've done about half of the listed drugs, as well as 2c-i (psychadelic).

Nice. Which was your favorite.

I think spidergoat did the most, so that's who you should be asking.

married a drug user, saw friends deteriorate through drug use, had dull time at parties while people took cocaine and 'imagined' they were having a riot when really they talked all night about work, repeatedly! My daughter 1.5 yr old found an ounze of canabis etc etc, blah blah blah

Everyone has a right to an opinion whatever the 'distance' to the probelm because drug use IS a problem.

I think this reflects more on your choice of associates then the problem of drugs.

ive taken small bits of a few but nothing in major doses

we are all affected directly

We all know people who use drugs, no one in modern world lives in a drug free culture.

I have a ton of it.

Oh and insurance is not distant unless you are a kid and don't pay it!

I had flat robbed by drug user, married a drug user, saw friends deteriorate through drug use, had dull time at parties while people took cocaine and 'imagined' they were having a riot when really they talked all night about work, repeatedly! My daughter 1.5 yr old found an ounze of canabis etc etc, blah blah blah

Everyone has a right to an opinion whatever the 'distance' to the probelm because drug use IS a problem.
Paying a higher insurance isn't the same as a crackhead robbing you and taking your shoes. It's also not the same as watching people on wellfare driving cadillacs because they take advantage of the drug situation. It's also not the same as getting your nose bit off by your best friend, or experiencing all of the good times either. What about all of the drug abusers with social anxiety who can only ever get with a girl or meet new people when they're drunk or high on cocaine/crack, is it a problem for them?

Most of the drug problems come from the fact that they are illegal. I'm refering to violence/gang related problems. If they were legal, the drug dealers wouldn't have to go kill people who steal their product, because they could call the cops. And really, any violence besides that is only a problem if you think it is. I think fighting is healthy for kids, and even for adults. Violence is just something that man is drawn to. It's better to fight than to have a war. Also, another problem with drugs is that people spend all of their money on them, I have seen this happen many times. If drugs were legal, they would be more available, and would cost less.

And again, all drugs really aren't the same, neither are the effects that it has on different people. I had a friend who got really violent smoking weed. Another who can't smoke marijuana because he falls asleep when he does. For most people, they definitely don't get violent, and usually won't fall asleep. But on average, the effects of specific drugs are usually the same.

Nice. Which was your favorite.
Really depends on the situation...