http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24530214/

Story in short: Little dog runs out into the road, gets hit and killed by car. Cardriver later sues for damages done by the dog. In good old American fashion, dogowner countersues.

I tend to agree with the cardriver. Dogowners should take responsibility for the actions their dogs do or cause. The cardriver could easily have hurt himself had he tried to avoid hitting the dog. The countersue is preposterous...

And seriously, why should I pay when you were stupid enough to let your dog run away???

I agree. Aren't leashes mandatory ?

The dog sneaked out of the house...

I'll start reading.. :o

Ok, I think that Ely dude is full of shit.
If he feels for them he wouldn't sue. And no one really is to blame here.

Would he also sue if it was a kid that ran in front of his car ?

if the kid was young enough im sure the parent would get prosecuted for negligance.

if the kid was young enough im sure the parent would get prosecuted for negligance.

Sure, but that wasn't my question.

ok.,to answer your question.of course not
would you sue the owner if you ran over his pet mouse?
would you sue a monkey for looking at your banana funny?
there as,like yours,completely unrelated questions.

would you sue the owner if you ran over his pet mouse?


Not even if there were damages ? That Ely dude WOULD.

ok.,to answer your question.of course not
would you sue the owner if you ran over his pet mouse?
would you sue a monkey for looking at your banana funny?
there as,like yours,completely unrelated questions.

LOL, very valid point.

....Cardriver later sues for damages done by the dog... ..

Wouldn't insurance cover it and his insurance would then deal with the person who caused the damage?
I think he has every right to sue. Why should the deductible come out of his pocket?

Hey gorgeous ! :D

Nobody so far has said a word about the poor dog.

Darwin Award winner. Congrats to him.

Darwin Award winner. Congrats to him.

Oh, Orleander , you are getting very hard since you joined this forum.
Very hard.


A dog is not as important as a child, granted,
but which would you rather lose, your pet or your job?

Oh, Orleander , you are getting very hard since you joined this forum.
Very hard.


A dog is not as important as a child, granted,
but which would you rather lose, your pet or your job?

Her pet no doubt.. animals are nothing.

Oh, Orleander , you are getting very hard since you joined this forum.
Very hard.


A dog is not as important as a child, granted,
but which would you rather lose, your pet or your job?

That's an easy question to answer. I'd rather loose my pet. A pet doesn't feed my children, a job does.

Her pet no doubt.. animals are nothing.

no, they just aren't everything

no, they just aren't everything

They aren't. People aren't everything either though..

That's an easy question to answer. I'd rather loose my pet. A pet doesn't feed my children, a job does.

You could eat your pet :shrug:

yes

Yes ? Yes what ?

The car driver is 100000% correct. Maybe even more than that.

That's an easy question to answer. I'd rather lose my pet. A pet doesn't feed my children, a job does.Wow. I guess that sums up the reasons I never wanted to be a parent, in a way I would never have thought of. I could not stand to be a person who is forced by circumstances to think that way.

Wow. I guess that sums up the reasons I never wanted to be a parent, in a way I would never have thought of. I could not stand to be a person who is forced by circumstances to think that way.

when I was poor my son didn't have a pet. What do I buy? Groceries to feed him or pet food?
When you're poor you prioritize quickly

Wouldn't insurance cover it and his insurance would then deal with the person who caused the damage?
I think he has every right to sue. Why should the deductible come out of his pocket?

thats the problem with americans they always think they have the right to sue. he should just pay his deductible and just leave the people alone.

Its what I would have done, but its his right to be an ass about it I guess

Case is actually pretty straightforward. Dogowner is responsible. Had the dog caused a serious accident, the owner would be held criminally negligable as the cause of the accident...

but you could get a pet that can feed your kids. Some tea is picked by monkeys (no really), if it got paid then your point is invalid, and I reckon you could train it to cook too.

That's an easy question to answer. I'd rather loose my pet. A pet doesn't feed my children, a job does.

Oh, harsh,harsh.
You and your children could happily live with your dog on a sunny meadow.
But no! You need a house. And probably a car as well.
Is a dog not better than these luxuries?

Question:

We are presuming, then, that the driver, Mr. Ely, was conducting his vehicle in a safe and legal manner? Can we take his word for it? After all, he has a vested interest in the answer and its effects on the outcome of his complaint.

well as the contents insurance would cover the dog owner for legal liability arising from the incident, who really cares?

Not everybody has home or contents insurance...

thats the problem with americans they always think they have the right to sue. he should just pay his deductible and just leave the people alone.

Exactly.

Case is actually pretty straightforward. Dogowner is responsible. Had the dog caused a serious accident, the owner would be held criminally negligable as the cause of the accident...

If it was a kid ?

Besides the article states nothing about the circumstances regarding the driver.
Was he driving above the speed limit ?
Was he not paying attention somehow (cellphone, conversation with passenger, etc) ?
Etc.

Who are you going to sue when it's a stray cat ?
And again, if it was a playing kid that follows a football onto the road.. would he sue ?

Who are you going to sue when it's a stray cat ?
And again, if it was a playing kid that follows a football onto the road.. would he sue ?

He would sue the football.

He would sue Man U.

How did he manage to do $1100 damage hitting a 6kg dog?
A 6kg dog "Propelled the bumper into the radiator?"
He must have been going pretty fast. Or the damage wasn't done in this accident.


Did you notice that the countersuit is double-dipping?
"The Munthes have filed a $2,400 countersuit against Ely for the cost to buy Fester, the time they had to take off work for court appearances, and the cost of buying a dog to replace Fester."

Did you notice that the countersuit is double-dipping?

Piling on the frivolity is a common counterpoint demonstration among Americans. I have a feeling they wouldn't have sued at all if Ely hadn't filed first.

They called the dog "Fester"?:confused:
That dog was destined to come to a bad end.